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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
July 06 2012 17:54 GMT
#1701
On July 07 2012 00:27 NanowaX wrote:
TvZ is fully balanced, it is just the zerg players that have gotten a lot better, they' ve trained more, more talent, better micro overall more skill, seems like all good sc2 players tend to play zerg. so that has nothing to do with balance^^ wat wait a minute, lol


Give it another month, if it still looks this way, with zergs rolling over terrans left and right all day long, I might agree with you.

Then again, Coca has always been ridiculously good, and it didn't look like a balance issue today, he just outplayed his opponents.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
July 06 2012 17:55 GMT
#1702
On July 07 2012 02:20 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 01:55 foxj wrote:
Zergception lololol
My prediction this season : DRG will win GSL - MVP Team win GSTL :p


TSL has more Zergs DRG won't all-kill all Zerg opponent teams .


I think Symbol is better than DRG right now too.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
July 06 2012 17:59 GMT
#1703
Interesting...another Z gets 3+ kills in the GSTL... interesting.
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
July 06 2012 18:10 GMT
#1704
God ... blizzard is ridiculous. Fix this please.

Is it a coincidence that as soon as the patch released... zerg players such as symbol/violet/golden all 2nd tier zergs are now the best players in the world... SOMETHING IS WRONG.

MMA who is the best tvz in the world... is just another terran vs zerg. there isn't a terran that can beat any top zergs in the world. It's almost unwatchable.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 06 2012 18:11 GMT
#1705
On July 07 2012 02:54 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:27 NanowaX wrote:
TvZ is fully balanced, it is just the zerg players that have gotten a lot better, they' ve trained more, more talent, better micro overall more skill, seems like all good sc2 players tend to play zerg. so that has nothing to do with balance^^ wat wait a minute, lol


Give it another month, if it still looks this way, with zergs rolling over terrans left and right all day long, I might agree with you.

Then again, Coca has always been ridiculously good, and it didn't look like a balance issue today, he just outplayed his opponents.



And it didn't look like it was a balance issue when MVP, MMA were winning but Blizzard decided to 'fix' it anyways. Honestly, it doesn't really matter how we feel and whether you agree or not. It just depends if Blizzard feels that there is some imbalance they have to adjust.
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
July 06 2012 18:13 GMT
#1706
woow coca destroyed
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 06 2012 18:21 GMT
#1707
On July 07 2012 03:10 tranmillitary wrote:
God ... blizzard is ridiculous. Fix this please.

Is it a coincidence that as soon as the patch released... zerg players such as symbol/violet/golden all 2nd tier zergs are now the best players in the world... SOMETHING IS WRONG.

MMA who is the best tvz in the world... is just another terran vs zerg. there isn't a terran that can beat any top zergs in the world. It's almost unwatchable.


When did Violet and Golden ever become the best players in the world? Why are you whining about a scene that you (apparently) don't understand?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
knicyo
Profile Joined June 2012
177 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#1708
Oh man, I knew people would whine when the results were clear, but this...

Hahaha really awesome that CoCa won today!! I were afraid that my precious Slayers were going to get eliminated, even bet against them not to jinx them. I might have helped... Goooooooooo SLAYERS!!!
Ryung - Parting - Life - MMA - Genius - Fantasy
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46478 Posts
July 06 2012 19:26 GMT
#1709
On July 06 2012 19:06 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:03 Orek wrote:
Fasten your seat belts.
Terran QQ coming after match. Get ready ^^.


*click*

But hey, maybe not! CoCa's really good at ZvT, and maybe he'll just clearly outplay Byun or Byun will throw away the game...

You are too optimistic my friend.


Well played.

Also: Well done CoCa.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
July 06 2012 19:29 GMT
#1710
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 06 2012 19:36 GMT
#1711
CoCa after his long hiatus for matchfixing in ESL, finally showing his true colors <3
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46478 Posts
July 06 2012 20:06 GMT
#1712
On July 07 2012 04:36 MooMooMugi wrote:
CoCa after his long hiatus for matchfixing in ESL, finally showing his true colors <3


He had recently crushed MKP in IPL Fight Club too, so I'm rather surprised that so many people are chalking this up to "Zerg Imba", rather than "CoCa Imba".
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 20:57:02
July 06 2012 20:30 GMT
#1713
On July 07 2012 05:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 04:36 MooMooMugi wrote:
CoCa after his long hiatus for matchfixing in ESL, finally showing his true colors <3


He had recently crushed MKP in IPL Fight Club too, so I'm rather surprised that so many people are chalking this up to "Zerg Imba", rather than "CoCa Imba".

Ignoring balance the matchup sux because nothing is happening but mining first 10 min as opposed to before intense back and forth and still is with zvz pvp which all of a sudden became better to watch.

There is a reason MC is my favorite player and I can't stand turtletoss players like PartinG. Action!!! Gimme it. Win or lose.
MC for president
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
July 06 2012 22:12 GMT
#1714
LOL ANOTHER ALL-KILL

Not a reverse all-kill, but an all-kill!

Holy fucking shit Coca is beast!

Hurray I'm glad to see Prime lose after what happened last GSTL haha

Slayers fighting!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 23:28:44
July 06 2012 23:23 GMT
#1715
On July 06 2012 19:55 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:54 pdd wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:52 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


Mech against protoss

Someone almost made it recently in GSL though. Can't remember who, but he lost because he unsiege all his units at one go.

Byun vs Genius?

It was a good build, but you could see that he was bound to lose eventually, tanks just die to easily and are far too easy to get caught unsieged. Even in TvZ they're very easy to catch unsieged, just that they're a necessity vs banelings and infestors.

no to mention, that wasn't even mech. it was biomech. he had a ton of marine/marauder to go with his tanks.



Just to address Mech vs Protoss being bad... it's really not. Mech has been quite successful when shown in high level games.


Out of all 4 times I've seen mech in GSL,
(Hack vs MC on Crevasse, Byun vs some P on TDA, MKP vs Genius on Dual Site, Sound vs Tails on Dual Site),
mech has won 3 out of 4 times.
I'm excluding MVP vs Squirtle on Terminus because he started with bio then transitioned to mech. Meh, count it if you want ^^

In TSL4, Hack beat Lure with mech, and played a pretty close game vs Creator, who is arguably better than Hack.
MKP has used mech and lost to Grubby (quite stupidly) in some random tourny/cup and beat Whitera, Huk, and MC in MLGs.

Sound has also used (IIRC) mech vs MC in HSC4 but I think he lost that.


Out of all the times I've seen mech, it has not done poorly, and no significant holes in mech play were apparent to suggest that mech TvP is "unviable".

It may be unforgivable, but ultimately which strategy/style you play depends on each individual person, right? For example, until Hack gave up 10 ish tanks for free to Creator because he was retreating but didn't notice Creator moving in, the then ~25 minute macro game on Daybreak was quite even, with 4-5 bases for each player. And contrary to those unfamiliar with Mech but keep stating that Mech deathballs get owned by Protoss deathballs, Hack's army usually defeated Creator's (basically whenever he sieged up in time and had a fitting composition) with several tanks and some hellions left over (and this is with just Tank Hellion + Ghost/Viking, he didn't even begin adding BCs/Thors, which make the deathball even stronger).
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 07 2012 00:37 GMT
#1716
On July 07 2012 07:12 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
LOL ANOTHER ALL-KILL

Not a reverse all-kill, but an all-kill!

Holy fucking shit Coca is beast!

Hurray I'm glad to see Prime lose after what happened last GSTL haha

Slayers fighting!


Delicious karma
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
July 07 2012 01:00 GMT
#1717
Just finished watching vods now that HSC finished..so happy for Coca!
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 07 2012 01:03 GMT
#1718
Goddamn it man. lol. I setup my liquidbets just right. I pick Prime figuring that they're the stronger team, then Coca just decides to go beastmode and all kill everyone. lol
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:20:53
July 07 2012 06:19 GMT
#1719
Why is Naniwa in the Startale bench?
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 10 2012 21:42 GMT
#1720
gg prime
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
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