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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 12:57:27
July 06 2012 12:56 GMT
#1661
On July 06 2012 21:54 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:49 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:48 Falconblade wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:37 Bagration wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:34 Falconblade wrote:
Some one tell me. NASL finals on the day of the next Slayers GSTL match? Will Puzzle and Alicia (and PuMa) stay for GSTL, or go to NASL? I'd assume go to NASL.


Yes, I think that Puzzle and Alicia are likely going to skip out, while Puma and Huk will probably go. It sucks for sure


Ouch, will NASL just invite the next two highest seeds or something that didn't make it past ro16? A 6 man tournament would be atrociously bad.


looks like puma will be getting his 3rd nasl championship with alicia and puzzle out


I don't know, he faces MC first, then the winner of Stephano-Hero...

Wait a minute, what am I saying? This is NASL. Puma is sure to win.

Nasl may be Pumas home town but MC beat him badly last two times they matched up. Then again MC is doing 3 tounaments on 3 continents in a weeks time..
MC for president
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
July 06 2012 12:59 GMT
#1662
On July 06 2012 21:54 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:49 The KY wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:46 noddy wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:38 The KY wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:37 dohgg wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:34 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:33 bkrow wrote:
Why is there so much balance whining going on.. Holy crap Dx


also there are so little bans lately, the whine is overwhelming atm


Theres no complaining bout balance - Terrans are only mentioning facts... zerg all killing way too much.. maybe we're just fools and the zerg players are suddenly way better.


Or maybe they are having a period of dominance in a very specific area (team league) that is expected in an asymmetrical strategy game.


I agree with this but people have to admit there is an issue when winratio in a certain match-up is around 30% and all Korean pros(not foreigners, like Idra in the past for Zerg) are stating how ridiculous a match-up is.

I think everyone who is watching SC2 at the moment can see a problem as it's not possible for a Terran to keep up with Zerg, nor is it possible to do any early game pressure. Funny example of this would be Symbol vs MarineKing in GSL recently, where MarineKing was being flamed for being greedy with a 14cc while Symbol went two hatches before pool and it was called "standard" and MKP couldn't do anything to prevent it.


I'm relatively (but not entirely) confident that it'll work itself out. I wouldn't lose any sleep if Blizz did a u-turn on the queen range though.

What was the problem before it? Lets say it does work itself out and terran learnd some new timing like idra says they will. Why fix what wasnt broke? I never heard anyone ask for queen change. Reminds me of flux veins nerf no one asked for but IMO it's actually game changing.


Yeeeah, kinda agree I was really surprised when that buff was announced. Did seem unnecessary. But game changing =/= game breaking. Time will tell.
(Wasn't flux vanes for 2v2 though? I mean they never said it but...)
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
July 06 2012 13:05 GMT
#1663
On July 06 2012 21:49 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:48 Falconblade wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:37 Bagration wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:34 Falconblade wrote:
Some one tell me. NASL finals on the day of the next Slayers GSTL match? Will Puzzle and Alicia (and PuMa) stay for GSTL, or go to NASL? I'd assume go to NASL.


Yes, I think that Puzzle and Alicia are likely going to skip out, while Puma and Huk will probably go. It sucks for sure


Ouch, will NASL just invite the next two highest seeds or something that didn't make it past ro16? A 6 man tournament would be atrociously bad.


No, the players they eliminated (TT1 and Sen) in the Ro16 will go.


Are you sure? Because that is ridiculously stupid seeing as TT1 and Sen shouldn't have to luck in to a finals on a walkover, highest two seeds will have atleast earned it throughout the course of the thing.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
July 06 2012 13:05 GMT
#1664
On July 06 2012 21:32 MaNaVoId wrote:
To prime fanboys complaining about balance, Stop talking shit, if there is a race that is imba, it is the race that can defeat 16 zealots, 6 stalkers , 6 high templars with 3 tier one unit and comeback to own his enemy's ass.


Wait What?
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
saiyogo
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam136 Posts
July 06 2012 13:09 GMT
#1665
Now I only need Clide to all kill in next match against fnatic
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
July 06 2012 13:13 GMT
#1666
On July 06 2012 22:05 pyro19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:32 MaNaVoId wrote:
To prime fanboys complaining about balance, Stop talking shit, if there is a race that is imba, it is the race that can defeat 16 zealots, 6 stalkers , 6 high templars with 3 tier one unit and comeback to own his enemy's ass.


Wait What?

i also dont understand! 3 tier one units? marines, marauders and what else do you need? whats the third one?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 06 2012 13:14 GMT
#1667
On July 06 2012 21:59 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 21:54 tdt wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:49 The KY wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:46 noddy wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:38 The KY wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:37 dohgg wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:34 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:33 bkrow wrote:
Why is there so much balance whining going on.. Holy crap Dx


also there are so little bans lately, the whine is overwhelming atm


Theres no complaining bout balance - Terrans are only mentioning facts... zerg all killing way too much.. maybe we're just fools and the zerg players are suddenly way better.


Or maybe they are having a period of dominance in a very specific area (team league) that is expected in an asymmetrical strategy game.


I agree with this but people have to admit there is an issue when winratio in a certain match-up is around 30% and all Korean pros(not foreigners, like Idra in the past for Zerg) are stating how ridiculous a match-up is.

I think everyone who is watching SC2 at the moment can see a problem as it's not possible for a Terran to keep up with Zerg, nor is it possible to do any early game pressure. Funny example of this would be Symbol vs MarineKing in GSL recently, where MarineKing was being flamed for being greedy with a 14cc while Symbol went two hatches before pool and it was called "standard" and MKP couldn't do anything to prevent it.


I'm relatively (but not entirely) confident that it'll work itself out. I wouldn't lose any sleep if Blizz did a u-turn on the queen range though.

What was the problem before it? Lets say it does work itself out and terran learnd some new timing like idra says they will. Why fix what wasnt broke? I never heard anyone ask for queen change. Reminds me of flux veins nerf no one asked for but IMO it's actually game changing.


Yeeeah, kinda agree I was really surprised when that buff was announced. Did seem unnecessary. But game changing =/= game breaking. Time will tell.
(Wasn't flux vanes for 2v2 though? I mean they never said it but...)


No, Flux vanes was, because mass speed void ray was basically unstoppable for zergs in the lategame - ofc this was preinfestor.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 06 2012 13:15 GMT
#1668
Global Starcraft Zerg League
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#1669
coca is back!
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
July 06 2012 13:23 GMT
#1670
Fuck yeah CoCa.
#TeamBuLba
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
July 06 2012 14:01 GMT
#1671
someone pleeeaaase give coca a haircut, he should not have been able to all-kill prime with that hair...
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
July 06 2012 14:01 GMT
#1672
CoCaaaaaaaaa!
Great job SlayerS!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 06 2012 14:03 GMT
#1673
Wow CoCa with the all-kill. He's backk!!
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
July 06 2012 14:26 GMT
#1674
Oh, god, who would've thought we'd see a Slayers All-kill from a Zerg xD Congratz!
"more gg, more skill"
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
July 06 2012 14:28 GMT
#1675
On July 06 2012 22:13 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 22:05 pyro19 wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:32 MaNaVoId wrote:
To prime fanboys complaining about balance, Stop talking shit, if there is a race that is imba, it is the race that can defeat 16 zealots, 6 stalkers , 6 high templars with 3 tier one unit and comeback to own his enemy's ass.


Wait What?

i also dont understand! 3 tier one units? marines, marauders and what else do you need? whats the third one?


Scv's??? xD
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Ritchie
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada206 Posts
July 06 2012 14:30 GMT
#1676
Wow! CoCa beasted through them all
After all, we just want to be happy, don't we?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 06 2012 14:49 GMT
#1677
Fuck yeah Coca! :D
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 15:02:54
July 06 2012 15:02 GMT
#1678
On July 06 2012 23:28 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 22:13 Heimatloser wrote:
On July 06 2012 22:05 pyro19 wrote:
On July 06 2012 21:32 MaNaVoId wrote:
To prime fanboys complaining about balance, Stop talking shit, if there is a race that is imba, it is the race that can defeat 16 zealots, 6 stalkers , 6 high templars with 3 tier one unit and comeback to own his enemy's ass.


Wait What?

i also dont understand! 3 tier one units? marines, marauders and what else do you need? whats the third one?


Scv's??? xD


Mules!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 15:07:15
July 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1679
TvZ is seriously broken. Coca uses basically the same run-by/all-in strategy 3 times against the 3 terrans today, and it worked 3 times. And his opponents are the three best terran in the planet, beside bomber and Taeja at the moment.

User was temp banned for this post.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
July 06 2012 15:16 GMT
#1680
On July 07 2012 00:06 larse wrote:
TvZ is seriously broken. Coca uses basically the same run-by/all-in strategy 3 times against the 3 terrans today, and it worked 3 times. And his opponents are the three best terran in the planet, beside bomber and Taeja at the moment.


I didn't watch they game but couldn't they try walling it?
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