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MaNaVoId
492 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:36 MaNaVoId wrote: What you talking about? Looks like we finally found someone who can find and select battlenet 2.0 in the race selection tab | ||
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dohgg
310 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:34 Tsubbi wrote: also there are so little bans lately, the whine is overwhelming atm Theres no complaining bout balance - Terrans are only mentioning facts... zerg all killing way too much.. maybe we're just fools and the zerg players are suddenly way better. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:33 bkrow wrote: Why is there so much balance whining going on.. Holy crap Dx wouldn't be an LR thread without whining! | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:34 Tsubbi wrote: also there are so little bans lately, the whine is overwhelming atm They're probably waiting til after the thread pretty much dies down and will go through and just do a wave of bans/warnings | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:37 dohgg wrote: Theres no complaining bout balance - Terrans are only mentioning facts... zerg all killing way too much.. maybe we're just fools and the zerg players are suddenly way better. Or maybe they are having a period of dominance in a very specific area (team league) that is expected in an asymmetrical strategy game. | ||
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Moka
Canada942 Posts
What? What's the link beetween corporations business and the balance of starcraft 2????? And no, it is not 45-55 today. What's the rationale behing that the other side should experience bad times? It doesn't make sc2 balance better ._. all you're asking is an eye for an eye | ||
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:38 The KY wrote: Or maybe they are having a period of dominance in a very specific area (team league) that is expected in an asymmetrical strategy game. u mean in game where "terran has to apply pressure early to get on par" ? while terran can't do anything early except die to some early cheese himself? | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:27 Orek wrote: Maybe we have different philosophy. You think Step1.60-40 Step2.55-45 Step3.50-50 is the way to balance. I think Step1.60-40 Step2. 40-60 Step2. 50-50 is the way to go. Also, you think it was 50-50 before patch. I think it was like 55-45 before patch, so it is 45-55 today. It is like depression is necessary so that bad companies go out of business. Both sides should experience bad times at least once. Oh man these posts are gold. Keep them up lawl. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:40 HQuality wrote: u mean in game where "terran has to apply pressure early to get on par" ? while terran can't do anything early except die to some early cheese himself? Explain to me why having to put on pressure is a bad thing. That's not the problem. The problem is the old pressures don't work and we have yet to work out the new ones. Regardless, take it to the balance discussion thread, and I'd recommend being more impartial; to use exaggerations and say that terran can't do 'anything' just obscures whatever validity your concern may have had and makes you sound like a whiner. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:38 The KY wrote: Or maybe they are having a period of dominance in a very specific area (team league) that is expected in an asymmetrical strategy game. I agree with this but people have to admit there is an issue when winratio in a certain match-up is around 30% and all Korean pros(not foreigners, like Idra in the past for Zerg) are stating how ridiculous a match-up is. I think everyone who is watching SC2 at the moment can see a problem as it's not possible for a Terran to keep up with Zerg, nor is it possible to do any early game pressure. Funny example of this would be Symbol vs MarineKing in GSL recently, where MarineKing was being flamed for being greedy with a 14cc while Symbol went two hatches before pool and it was called "standard" and MKP couldn't do anything to prevent it. | ||
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Falconblade
United States1035 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:37 Bagration wrote: Yes, I think that Puzzle and Alicia are likely going to skip out, while Puma and Huk will probably go. It sucks for sure Ouch, will NASL just invite the next two highest seeds or something that didn't make it past ro16? A 6 man tournament would be atrociously bad. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:48 Falconblade wrote: Ouch, will NASL just invite the next two highest seeds or something that didn't make it past ro16? A 6 man tournament would be atrociously bad. No, the players they eliminated (TT1 and Sen) in the Ro16 will go. | ||
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MaNaVoId
492 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:48 Falconblade wrote: Ouch, will NASL just invite the next two highest seeds or something that didn't make it past ro16? A 6 man tournament would be atrociously bad. looks like puma will be getting his 3rd nasl championship with alicia and puzzle out | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:46 noddy wrote: I agree with this but people have to admit there is an issue when winratio in a certain match-up is around 30% and all Korean pros(not foreigners, like Idra in the past for Zerg) are stating how ridiculous a match-up is. I think everyone who is watching SC2 at the moment can see a problem as it's not possible for a Terran to keep up with Zerg, nor is it possible to do any early game pressure. Funny example of this would be Symbol vs MarineKing in GSL recently, where MarineKing was being flamed for being greedy with a 14cc while Symbol went two hatches before pool and it was called "standard" and MKP couldn't do anything to prevent it. I'm relatively (but not entirely) confident that it'll work itself out. I wouldn't lose any sleep if Blizz did a u-turn on the queen range though. | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:40 Moka wrote: What? What's the link beetween corporations business and the balance of starcraft 2????? And no, it is not 45-55 today. What's the rationale behing that the other side should experience bad times? It doesn't make sc2 balance better ._. all you're asking is an eye for an eye Only when players are hard pressed, new strategies come out. A race that is having relatively easier time would not have to deveop strategy as much. In order for both sides to refine strategies, bad times are necessary for both sides. At least that's how I feel. I would be lying if I say I have no eye for an eye attitude, but I truly believe hard time is needed for all 3 races. Ghost nerf and queen buff are both too much I feel, but because of these, Terran strategy development started to be so much more serious. Zerg basically had to abandon mutalisk entirely after about 1 year of strategy development, Terran has not reached that level yet, I think. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:49 The KY wrote: I'm relatively (but not entirely) confident that it'll work itself out. I wouldn't lose any sleep if Blizz did a u-turn on the queen range though. What was the problem before it? Lets say it does work itself out and terran learnd some new timing like idra says they will. Why fix what wasnt broke? I never heard anyone ask for queen change. Reminds me of flux veins nerf no one asked for but IMO it's actually game changing. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:49 MaNaVoId wrote: looks like puma will be getting his 3rd nasl championship with alicia and puzzle out I don't know, he faces MC first, then the winner of Stephano-Hero... Wait a minute, what am I saying? This is NASL. Puma is sure to win. | ||
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sagichu
United States280 Posts
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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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