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France9034 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:45 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:42 Orek wrote:
Watching this and some other TvZ, I feel like it is more about Zerg players rediscovering how multiple queens are good rather than the mere fact queens now have +2 range.
If Terran continue to complain, I would love to see queen range back to 3.
Yeah, it will be harder for Zerg, but I feel like Zerg will still continue to make more queens than before the patch in May.
+60 shield raised awareness of warpprism. Even if Blizzard take those 60 shield away from protoss now, protoss won't stop using warpprism.
What changed in patch is probably not as important as the FACT it changed and players read that patch note. No... because Helions will actually be able to kill Queens/prevent creep spread. Things snowball from there, metagame will be totally different.
Aka balanced, like it was before.
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HOW COME EVE is not on the lineup!?
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United States97274 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:46 Gijian wrote:
*Prime Coach looks at Creator with an evil glare.
"7 Stargates...carriers..."
if anything he would be mad about no energy saved for vortex, not a carrier transition
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Isn't Coca like 10-4 with MKP now
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On July 06 2012 20:46 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:43 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP Ahhh terran/prime fanboys. They just can't admit it. Why is everyone a fanboy just for having another opinion? No one can really say Coca is better than MKP when you look at their achievements. Coca has won some weeklys, while MKP won international tournaments and did well in GSL.
Did you watch fightclub?? Like just recently??
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On July 06 2012 20:45 herbie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:41 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 herbie wrote:On July 06 2012 20:37 namste wrote:On July 06 2012 20:36 parazice wrote:
since when SlayerS become Zerg Team ??? LOL When Terran stopped winning every team became the Zerg team, except Prime who have the worst zergs compared to others. Slayers dedicated a whole room in their training house for zergs when they saw the way the game was going. Oh wow... I hope you are joking. Since everyone can find the video you know. Slayers picked up a tonne of b-teamer Zergs recently, as have most Korean teams. Go find the videos.
KDY. That's not a tonne.
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On July 06 2012 20:43 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP So what? Doesn't make him the "stronger player and always has been".
Are you seriously kidding? Like, a joke? H2H when comparing 2 players is THE stat lol. I don't get the fanboyism to the point of denying that another player is extremely skilled at the game. You don't routinely win because of one fucking patch, CoCa has MKP's number. It doesn't mean he has more accomplishments, it doesn't mean he's the next bonjwa, I mean, even pre-patch CoCa has a positive record against him lol... You can't say that he's a better player than MKP, because honestly it's hard to judge. But the people denying that CoCa would lose to MKP pre-patch are ridiculously biased.
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On July 06 2012 20:46 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:45 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:44 Jono7272 wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:40 Jono7272 wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Hmmm.. If you say so :/ Oh don't be bias. Coca is stronger then MKP admit it you prime fan boy. I am a IM fan boy and I can tell it as it is. Right. You are making a stupid sweeping statement, I'm not saying its wrong or right, just that its stupid. If its right I don't see why its stupid. Coca is stronger. Results have proved it. You are just running away from it bro. Lol, okay "bro".
Ignore the trolls. I wish the TL mods would be more consistent. They'll ban for speaking your beliefs but for obvious trolls they just ignore it XD
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On July 06 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:45 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:44 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 AxionSteel wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP So what? Doesn't make him the "stronger player and always has been". the guy said Coca is an MKP killer, its true. No. He said Coca is and always was the better player. Not that he has a good h2h score. That's a big differance I said "Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer" you really got to stop twisting my words to bullshit. Its even in your quote.
Lol you said nothing about head to head, just that he's always been "stronger".
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Why do people always argue that player x is better than player y??
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United States97274 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:47 aznball123 wrote:
Isn't Coca like 10-4 with MKP now
yes. I believe that is the h2h
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On July 06 2012 20:46 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:43 Inhumane wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 Serinox wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 Xpace wrote:On July 06 2012 20:33 SeeKeR wrote:On July 06 2012 20:33 DwD wrote:Damn it Coca I wanna see Eve  I'm sure we would see Clide before we see Eve If Coca had lost to MKP, shit would have gotten real for SlayerS. JYP/Puzzle/Puma for sure, one of these guys are ready for MKP. But since SlayerS is up 4-1, with MKP/Creator/B(BB4^Bf(x)*2) knocked out... there's a much higher chance to see Eve if Maru beats Coca. She's not on the roster. She's just decoration here. Just because she wasn't listed at the start of the show in SlayerS' lineup, doesn't mean she can't play. Actually, not being being listed on the roster means you can't play.
Teams submit their roster before the season starts and the roster lineup they show at the start of the show just shows the players who are on the bench. MMA and ThorZaIN weren't listed at the start of the show but of course they could play if they were there.
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On July 06 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:45 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:44 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 AxionSteel wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP So what? Doesn't make him the "stronger player and always has been". the guy said Coca is an MKP killer, its true. No. He said Coca is and always was the better player. Not that he has a good h2h score. That's a big differance I said "Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer" you really got to stop twisting my words to bullshit. Its even in your quote.
"Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch"
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On July 06 2012 20:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
HOW COME EVE is not on the lineup!?
Moral support.
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Austria24417 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:46 Moka wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 Moka wrote:
Now he must maybe beat CoCa,Ryung,PuMa and Puzzle..
And where's MMA o.O? He isn't in the lineup MMA is in LA, cruising around in a sports car, pimpin with 7 half naked girls. Same goes for Hero, DRG and Illusion, although he's probably too young for that shit. Oh yeah, completly forgot, IPL xD Thanks!
Can't wait for that although I have no idea what to expect, lol.
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laaaaag? 
edit: k good now.
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United Kingdom38149 Posts
oh ok, normal 2 rax and then probably into double expand and a midgame hellion bio timing.
maybe then a lategame biomech style
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On July 06 2012 20:46 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:43 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP Ahhh terran/prime fanboys. They just can't admit it. Why is everyone a fanboy just for having another opinion? No one can really say Coca is better than MKP when you look at their achievements. Coca has won some weeklys, while MKP won international tournaments and did well in GSL.
Did well in GSL? Yeah man, thats why mkp didnt played round of 8 since 2011 january.
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On July 06 2012 20:47 NuclearJudas wrote:Moral support.
An regrettable, unforgivable mistake.
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pls maruuuuu, do it for prime, for marineking for the sad terrans and beat this joke race : ((((((
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