EPTOn July 06 2012 20:37 ThePlayer33 wrote:
so drg, coca, life, symbol are op, who else
so drg, coca, life, symbol are op, who else
Moon, ByuL, Shine, RevivaL
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:35 tikipon wrote: Haha agreed ^^ I just wish terran had the old ghost back, nerfing emp range and snipe was overkill imo. If only terran t1 units were not as good, we might get to see strong t3 units. I don't get this. The endgame composition for all but the zerg is T1 units + higher teir units. Endgame PvT is extremely zealot heavy. Endgame PvZ is stalker heavy. Zerg can easily beat terran in the midgame with banelings and zerglings without too much difficulty - they just don't need to do so because their endgame unit compositions are so much stronger. Marines are almost completely countered by both races endgames. They are no longer an excuse for not giving terran a decent T3 endgame composition, even if marines feature as a major component. | ||
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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:38 nweb wrote: Come on, there is a reason why it's called Terran Shipyard It's because Terran has the easiest time holding the middle, which gives them a powerful defensive position. Antiga Shipyard isn't really a map to abuse mobility. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:39 herbie wrote: Slayers dedicated a whole room in their training house for zergs when they saw the way the game was going. Oh wow... I hope you are joking. Since everyone can find the video you know. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
Sniper :D | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Yeh rather interesting statement. | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:38 thepeonwhocould wrote: Watch Ryung vs DRG game 1 from code S recently for an example of a Terran beating a zerg broodlord army late game. I think it's definately possible to beat broodlords on bigger maps by using drops and avoiding the army. But on tight maps like ohana it does become really hard once broodlords come out. No one is saying it's impossible; we're saying it is much harder for the Terran to execute than it is for the Zerg. Ironically, from your example, Ryung lost that series after winning game 1. Another great example recently is Sculp vs Symbol in GSTL, but ironically again, he loses to Revival the match after, then loses to a Zerg 0-2 in OSL preliminaries a few days later. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
If Coca had lost to MKP, shit would have gotten real for SlayerS. JYP/Puzzle/Puma for sure, one of these guys are ready for MKP. But since SlayerS is up 4-1, with MKP/Creator/B(BB4^Bf(x)*2) knocked out... there's a much higher chance to see Eve if Maru beats Coca. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote: Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Before any balance whine about TvZ and Queens, just fix the walling off problem. THEN we could speak about it... | ||
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KingPaddy
1053 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote: Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:39 Clefairy wrote: It's really difficult to do what Ryung did on the ladder maps, so it's not much of a solution for the average player. It was possible because he was on Whirlwind which is like 2 times bigger than the ladder maps so he had many paths to avoid the Brood Lords. That's true but multi-prong agression is still the key, it's easier to defend on smaller maps but if you do it when broods come it gets harder. I think maybe heavy drop play like MMA used to do should get 'popular' again. Stretch the zerg out as much as possible and try to get 4th somehow. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:39 Moka wrote: Now he must maybe beat CoCa,Ryung,PuMa and Puzzle.. And where's MMA o.O? He isn't in the lineup MMA is in LA, cruising around in a sports car, pimpin with 7 half naked girls. Same goes for Hero, DRG and Illusion, although he's probably too young for that shit. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
Oh don't be bias. Coca is stronger then MKP admit it you prime fan boy. I am a IM fan boy and I can tell it as it is. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote: Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? Fightclub,their gstl results. ANd code A match ups. | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:40 Tsubbi wrote: creator shouldve taken out coca, really messed up that game True. It's always hard when your "sniper" failed. Especially when you have so many terrans in the team and the actual problems in TvZ. I think we could have seen a really close game between these both teams. | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:41 Xpace wrote: If Coca had lost to MKP, shit would have gotten real for SlayerS. JYP/Puzzle/Puma for sure, one of these guys are ready for MKP. But since SlayerS is up 4-1, with MKP/Creator/B(BB4^Bf(x)*2) knocked out... there's a much higher chance to see Eve if Maru beats Coca. She's not on the roster. She's just decoration here. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:38 nweb wrote: Come on, there is a reason why it's called Terran Shipyard In the current patch that nickname is pretty obsolete, even if the map architecture still does grant T an advantage after a certain stage. The nickname doesn't really have anything to do with what Ryung did anyway... On July 06 2012 20:40 Tsubbi wrote: creator shouldve taken out coca, really messed up that game That was sad, if only he'd held off for enough energy for recall + vortex before poking out again. | ||
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Surriel
United Kingdom198 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:41 Xpace wrote: If Coca had lost to MKP, shit would have gotten real for SlayerS. JYP/Puzzle/Puma for sure, one of these guys are ready for MKP. But since SlayerS is up 4-1, with MKP/Creator/B(BB4^Bf(x)*2) knocked out... there's a much higher chance to see Eve if Maru beats Coca. What a slap to the face it would have been for Prime if Slayers send out Eve... | ||
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