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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#921
On July 06 2012 19:52 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


Mech against protoss

Someone almost made it recently in GSL though. Can't remember who, but he lost because he unsiege all his units at one go.

byun went mm tank. Hack almost made it work in the TSL4 qualifiers
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#922
On July 06 2012 19:51 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?

Reapers

Nooooo way. I love reapers. my favourite unit when I offrace terran. So fun to check their kill score. Its like a mini cs.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#923
Creator just missed timing where he could just a-move against Coca. He was that far ahead. Coca often traded a lot of units for, basically, nothing. Instead, Creator chilled in the back, doing nothing. There we have, complete loss.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#924
On July 06 2012 19:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


Mech against protoss


I dunno man, Hack might have somethin' to say about that.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 10:53:29
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#925
On July 06 2012 19:47 An2quamaraN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:43 Rokoz wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:42 An2quamaraN wrote:
Isn't it interesting that Zerg can make so many mistakes, get outplayed on so many levels...and just a-move at the end?


Anyway, interesting game.


That's how I feel in TvP as Terran.


As far as I remember, if i make one mistake as protoss against terran (get emp'ed) or miss storms i loose automatically...

But it's not a thread for this kind of arguments, this is LR thread


Well same can be said about Zerg in ZvP if they lose all their Bloodlords to vortex and lose

But I agree with your second point.


Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#926
On July 06 2012 19:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 06 2012 19:50 NrGmonk wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about, carriers are completely standard late game PvZ now. Creator only lost because he didn't save a vortex.

It's just like people who still complain about ultralisks whenever a zerg loses >.> it's just a stigma that will take a long time if ever to go away


It'll go away in HotS

=D
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#927
whats with the 10 minute breaks between games?
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#928
On July 06 2012 19:52 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:50 NrGmonk wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about, carriers are completely standard late game PvZ now. Creator only lost because he didn't save a vortex.

Agreed, they're extremely good.


People that say carriers are bad have obviously not paid any attention to the latest PvZ meta.. Carriers are completely unstoppable when you have one or two vortexes available. Still think it's dumb that a matchup gets decided by one ability this much, though...
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37074 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#929
On July 06 2012 19:50 NrGmonk wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about, carriers are completely standard late game PvZ now. Creator only lost because he didn't save a vortex.

Just at a curiosity, did u read my strong like NrGmonk comment?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#930
On July 06 2012 19:51 Pyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


i'd say mass thors or bcs


Mass BC's work amazingly in late game TvP. Like, you have to rally fuck up to lose with them (and by really fuck up I mean have 10+ get sucked in a vortex with 6-7 archons)
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
July 06 2012 10:53 GMT
#931
On July 06 2012 19:43 Rokoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:42 An2quamaraN wrote:
Isn't it interesting that Zerg can make so many mistakes, get outplayed on so many levels...and just a-move at the end?


Anyway, interesting game.


That's how I feel in TvP as Terran.


That's how I feel in PvT as Protoss.

But to be fair, I think our match-up has always been: "If you engage poorly or if one thing goes wrong (spellcaster hits, high tech units getting taken out early, etc.), your opponent rolls you and then keeps rolling you" and the game is just over. It's less common for Protoss and Terran armies to break even and reset, I think.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 06 2012 10:54 GMT
#932
On July 06 2012 19:53 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:52 AxionSteel wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 NrGmonk wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about, carriers are completely standard late game PvZ now. Creator only lost because he didn't save a vortex.

Agreed, they're extremely good.


People that say carriers are bad have obviously not paid any attention to the latest PvZ meta.. Carriers are completely unstoppable when you have one or two vortexes available. Still think it's dumb that a matchup gets decided by one ability this much, though...

So what are you guys gonna do when HoTs comes out?
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 06 2012 10:54 GMT
#933
On July 06 2012 19:50 NrGmonk wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about, carriers are completely standard late game PvZ now. Creator only lost because he didn't save a vortex.

Where is it standard? I watch almost all GSL and major tounamnets never see them much at all let alone standard. I am yearly ticket holder so if you could suggest some games I missed appreciate it.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 06 2012 10:54 GMT
#934
On July 06 2012 19:52 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


Mech against protoss

Someone almost made it recently in GSL though. Can't remember who, but he lost because he unsiege all his units at one go.

You are thinking about Byun.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 10:54:43
July 06 2012 10:54 GMT
#935
On July 06 2012 19:53 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:51 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?

Reapers

Nooooo way. I love reapers. my favourite unit when I offrace terran. So fun to check their kill score. Its like a mini cs.

Let's hear what TL thinks then for I too, love reapers

Poll: Terran auto-lose unit?

BCs (11)
 
52%

Other (4)
 
19%

Reapers (3)
 
14%

Ravens (3)
 
14%

Thors (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Terran auto-lose unit?

(Vote): Reapers
(Vote): Ravens
(Vote): BCs
(Vote): Thors
(Vote): Other



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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 06 2012 10:54 GMT
#936
On July 06 2012 19:52 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


Mech against protoss

Someone almost made it recently in GSL though. Can't remember who, but he lost because he unsiege all his units at one go.

Byun vs Genius?

It was a good build, but you could see that he was bound to lose eventually, tanks just die to easily and are far too easy to get caught unsieged. Even in TvZ they're very easy to catch unsieged, just that they're a necessity vs banelings and infestors.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 06 2012 10:54 GMT
#937
On July 06 2012 19:54 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:52 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:51 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?


Mech against protoss

Someone almost made it recently in GSL though. Can't remember who, but he lost because he unsiege all his units at one go.

You are thinking about Byun.

Yeah yeah, I think so. I think. or was it hack? I can't remember. ITs 4 am man..
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 06 2012 10:55 GMT
#938
On July 06 2012 19:48 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:47 jmbthirteen wrote:
Coca just did the Zerg version of that timing where Toss's attack right before broodlords come out. attacking before the carriers are completely out. perfect timing on that attack.

Not taking anything away from Coca but i think he was just lucky. He didn't scout carriers, not from what we can see on the gsl stream anyway. I think he was just trying to play till the end.

Wasn't luck.

He has a Brood Lord army. His opponent is harassing around the map and Coca knows he can't defend it and must attack to force Creator away. He knows his opponent hasn't got the Archon toilet available thanks to Recalls. What better time to push in, regardless of whether Stargates are up or not? Even if he guessed Stargates, waiting for them to kick in would have been a terrible idea - his timing was the logical thing to do, not luck, and Creator should have realised as much.
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the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 06 2012 10:55 GMT
#939
That loss for creator reminds me of 80% of my losses in ZvP, you trade a bunch of army(or energy) to do economic damage, and then die to the corresponding counter right before BL's(carriers) pop.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 06 2012 10:55 GMT
#940
On July 06 2012 19:54 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 19:53 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:51 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:50 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 06 2012 19:47 Orek wrote:
The moment I saw a hydralisk, I thought it was gg.
Surprised yet glad to see Zerg win after making hydralisks even if Protoss messed up for sure.


Well, it was balanced by carriers on the other side... Though i think it handicap more the protoss than the zerg imo...

Hydralisk vs Carriers. Which is the stronger auto lose unit?
What's terran's auto lose unit anyway?

Reapers

Nooooo way. I love reapers. my favourite unit when I offrace terran. So fun to check their kill score. Its like a mini cs.

Let's hear what TL thinks then for I too, love reapers

Poll: Terran auto-lose unit?

BCs (11)
 
52%

Other (4)
 
19%

Reapers (3)
 
14%

Ravens (3)
 
14%

Thors (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Terran auto-lose unit?

(Vote): Reapers
(Vote): Ravens
(Vote): BCs
(Vote): Thors
(Vote): Other





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