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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#1921
Oh actually I want Nestea to win. He hasn't got the best stamina, if he loses here and has to win the final match he'll have a lower chance of getting through.
Long live the King of Wings
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
July 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#1922
Nestea underdroned. Definitely looking to hit a timing.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#1923
Go DRG!!
Mmm, what to watch.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 05 2012 11:29 GMT
#1924
Looks like DRG got this. Big dronelead, +1 and infestation pit. NesTea won't get there in time.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 05 2012 11:29 GMT
#1925
On July 05 2012 20:28 LimitSEA wrote:
He hasn't got the best stamina


That's a bit too personal for my liking.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 05 2012 11:29 GMT
#1926
On July 05 2012 20:27 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:26 Zambrah wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:25 EmmeCY wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:24 Zambrah wrote:
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.


he wants everyone to know that he has a big package XD


As if we didn't already know...

I didn't know. Why exactly do u know?


I'm his prison wife.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 11:30 GMT
#1927
On July 05 2012 20:29 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:28 LimitSEA wrote:
He hasn't got the best stamina


That's a bit too personal for my liking.

LOL. This is too good
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
July 05 2012 11:30 GMT
#1928
DRG definately got this game I think.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 05 2012 11:30 GMT
#1929
On July 05 2012 20:25 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:24 nojok wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:22 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:21 nojok wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:14 Vindicate wrote:
Without commenting on balance, I do find it funny that people are complaining about zerg being OP when the zergs in question are NesTea and DRG. These are two of the top 5 zergs in the world, arguably, that we are discussing here. They were consistently beating Terrans throughout almost the entirety of SC2's existence. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I might well be, I'm not real familiar with Supernova or Ryung) but I think neither of those two Terran players have won a major tournament, while NesTea and DRG have lists of honors/awards/wins to their name.
I haven't played much SC2 recently and I was never real knowledgeable about the game to begin with, but I think balance discussions might need more accurate comparisons.

Yeah. This. Pretty funny how Terrans actually think Drg and nestea would be weaker then this 2 other terrans. They are the representations of zergs. While the terrans here are pretty meh in accomplishments compared to them

The main problem is not balanced, even if we admit zerg has a slight advantage (which I'm not really sure, it's surely less than terran's old advantage) the problem is boring matches. TvZ used to be the best match up by miles, it was back & forth game, terran keeping trading to keep zerg from getting to T3, fights all along the game etc Now it's just not the same & from a spectator point of view we lost a lot. Now it just seems that if the map is not suitable for strong drop play, zerg just have to trade inefficiently with banelings because he has so much more income & more tech incoming behind. At least this is what happened during the nestea vs supernova.

Supernova did 2 all ins in 2 games. The first being a semi all, the second being a all in. Supernova basically dictate what nestea should do. Nestea crashed his banelings to maruders because he has already won it. It was an all in. I don't get what you don't understand. He even brought scvs which died.

And why do you think a code S terran try gimmicky stuff like that? & again I'm not complaining about balanced, it's about boring matches.

Why did Keen do 2 rax rushes? You make no sense dude. Like seriously. People do it because if everyone plays macro, everyone will play like naniwa into a 2 base all in.

Terran have to surprise the opponent because there is no terran opening to enter even in midgame. The matchup is balanced around those cheese (including eco cheese). Ok the matchup is balanced, but it's not a great matchup. The matchup was great before, now it's not.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 05 2012 11:30 GMT
#1930
On July 05 2012 20:08 EmilA wrote:
Some exciting roaches hitting roaches until one side cannot produce more roaches action incomming


Some serious roaches hitting roaches action right now. Very tense. #1 micro unit. Nestea is making a lot of roaches and going semi all in. DRG is countering by making more roaches while maybe making a support unit that is good against roaches.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#1931
cmon Nestea!!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#1932
After all that explanation about how 'ZvZ is really exciting now' all we get is roaches.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#1933
On July 05 2012 20:28 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:27 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:23 zefreak wrote:
GUYS GUYS GUYS you can't tell if a matchup is balanced from 1 game, stop using this or that game as proof of imbalance.


I think it is possible to use pretty much one series. MC vs Puma at IEM Cologne just made PvT look broke as fuck.

Of course, it was that combined with the ridiculously low Protoss winrates for months that made Blizzard actually patch the game.

What happened? I mean the MC vs puma game. I didn't watch IEM


It was a Bo5. Puma 1-1-1ed on Xel-naga Caverns, failed his first push but it's such a small map that he could just push out again and won. Second game on Terminus, MC completely outplayed him but because Ghosts back then had radius 2 (basically 1.5 times the area that they do now), Puma rolled over the Protoss army without breaking a sweat. Then in game 3 on close air Metalopolis, Puma 1-1-1ed, MC did a blind Phoenix/DT counter build (that dies to any mass barracks play) with a base race and still lost.

Luckily the two things that broke the game (small maps and EMP radius 2) are now fixed.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#1934
Nestea is in a lot of trouble. I think he might be dead
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#1935
On July 05 2012 20:30 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:08 EmilA wrote:
Some exciting roaches hitting roaches until one side cannot produce more roaches action incomming


Some serious roaches hitting roaches action right now. Very tense. #1 micro unit. Nestea is making a lot of roaches and going semi all in. DRG is countering by making more roaches while maybe making a support unit that is good against roaches.

Very nice analysis.
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EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#1936
On July 05 2012 20:30 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:08 EmilA wrote:
Some exciting roaches hitting roaches until one side cannot produce more roaches action incomming


Some serious roaches hitting roaches action right now. Very tense. #1 micro unit. Nestea is making a lot of roaches and going semi all in. DRG is countering by making more roaches while maybe making a support unit that is good against roaches.


Turns out DRG made enough roaches to hold. Nestea is in a lot of trouble unless he can make some roaches.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
July 05 2012 11:32 GMT
#1937
Upgrade for christ sake Nestea! Altho i want DRG to win
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Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
July 05 2012 11:32 GMT
#1938
On July 05 2012 20:30 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:08 EmilA wrote:
Some exciting roaches hitting roaches until one side cannot produce more roaches action incomming


Some serious roaches hitting roaches action right now. Very tense. #1 micro unit. Nestea is making a lot of roaches and going semi all in. DRG is countering by making more roaches while maybe making a support unit that is good against roaches.

Actually I like ZvZ, getting an upgrade here, but sacrificing a few roaches, so many decisions that are so game-breaking without it being ridiculous
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 05 2012 11:32 GMT
#1939
I didn't know you could save TeamLiquid.net on ipod into your home page. That's so sexy, now I see a sexy TL logo on my ipod :D
Mmm, what to watch.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 11:32 GMT
#1940
On July 05 2012 20:31 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:28 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:27 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:23 zefreak wrote:
GUYS GUYS GUYS you can't tell if a matchup is balanced from 1 game, stop using this or that game as proof of imbalance.


I think it is possible to use pretty much one series. MC vs Puma at IEM Cologne just made PvT look broke as fuck.

Of course, it was that combined with the ridiculously low Protoss winrates for months that made Blizzard actually patch the game.

What happened? I mean the MC vs puma game. I didn't watch IEM


It was a Bo5. Puma 1-1-1ed on Xel-naga Caverns, failed his first push but it's such a small map that he could just push out again and won. Second game on Terminus, MC completely outplayed him but because Ghosts back then had radius 2 (basically 1.5 times the area that they do now), Puma rolled over the Protoss army without breaking a sweat. Then in game 3 on close air Metalopolis, Puma 1-1-1ed, MC did a blind Phoenix/DT counter build (that dies to any mass barracks play) with a base race and still lost.

Luckily the two things that broke the game (small maps and EMP radius 2) are now fixed.

Oh wow, Xel-naga. Good lord I hated that map.
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