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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7113 Posts
July 05 2012 11:24 GMT
#1901
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 05 2012 11:24 GMT
#1902
On July 05 2012 20:22 Dodgin wrote:
I believe last time they played DRG was not yet a GSL champion?

So this is the first time ever that there will be a Zerg GSL champion vs Zerg GSL champion ZvZ in GSL?


Nerd chills.

Funny thing is, i just can't decide who could win that. DRG may have better mechanics, but Nestea... NESTEA, Detective Zerg.

And with this match up renewed a bit, this could end up pretty easily in favor of any of the two...

Rooting for Nestea !
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honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 05 2012 11:24 GMT
#1903
oh artosis, your french pronunciation fails you
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
July 05 2012 11:25 GMT
#1904
looking at the production tab, they're doing the exact same build lol
ヾ(＠⌒_⌒＠)ノ
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 11:26:05
July 05 2012 11:25 GMT
#1905
On July 05 2012 20:24 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:22 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:21 nojok wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:14 Vindicate wrote:
Without commenting on balance, I do find it funny that people are complaining about zerg being OP when the zergs in question are NesTea and DRG. These are two of the top 5 zergs in the world, arguably, that we are discussing here. They were consistently beating Terrans throughout almost the entirety of SC2's existence. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I might well be, I'm not real familiar with Supernova or Ryung) but I think neither of those two Terran players have won a major tournament, while NesTea and DRG have lists of honors/awards/wins to their name.
I haven't played much SC2 recently and I was never real knowledgeable about the game to begin with, but I think balance discussions might need more accurate comparisons.

Yeah. This. Pretty funny how Terrans actually think Drg and nestea would be weaker then this 2 other terrans. They are the representations of zergs. While the terrans here are pretty meh in accomplishments compared to them

The main problem is not balanced, even if we admit zerg has a slight advantage (which I'm not really sure, it's surely less than terran's old advantage) the problem is boring matches. TvZ used to be the best match up by miles, it was back & forth game, terran keeping trading to keep zerg from getting to T3, fights all along the game etc Now it's just not the same & from a spectator point of view we lost a lot. Now it just seems that if the map is not suitable for strong drop play, zerg just have to trade inefficiently with banelings because he has so much more income & more tech incoming behind. At least this is what happened during the nestea vs supernova.

Supernova did 2 all ins in 2 games. The first being a semi all, the second being a all in. Supernova basically dictate what nestea should do. Nestea crashed his banelings to maruders because he has already won it. It was an all in. I don't get what you don't understand. He even brought scvs which died.

And why do you think a code S terran try gimmicky stuff like that? & again I'm not complaining about balanced, it's about boring matches.

Why did Keen do 2 rax rushes? You make no sense dude. Like seriously. People do it because if everyone plays macro, everyone will play like naniwa into a 2 base all in.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 05 2012 11:25 GMT
#1906
Fuck it. I'm getting Dominos later....


And i want NesTea vs Naniwa in the Ro8!!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
July 05 2012 11:25 GMT
#1907
On July 05 2012 20:24 Zambrah wrote:
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.


he wants everyone to know that he has a big package XD
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 05 2012 11:26 GMT
#1908
On July 05 2012 20:24 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:22 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:21 nojok wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:14 Vindicate wrote:
Without commenting on balance, I do find it funny that people are complaining about zerg being OP when the zergs in question are NesTea and DRG. These are two of the top 5 zergs in the world, arguably, that we are discussing here. They were consistently beating Terrans throughout almost the entirety of SC2's existence. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I might well be, I'm not real familiar with Supernova or Ryung) but I think neither of those two Terran players have won a major tournament, while NesTea and DRG have lists of honors/awards/wins to their name.
I haven't played much SC2 recently and I was never real knowledgeable about the game to begin with, but I think balance discussions might need more accurate comparisons.

Yeah. This. Pretty funny how Terrans actually think Drg and nestea would be weaker then this 2 other terrans. They are the representations of zergs. While the terrans here are pretty meh in accomplishments compared to them

The main problem is not balanced, even if we admit zerg has a slight advantage (which I'm not really sure, it's surely less than terran's old advantage) the problem is boring matches. TvZ used to be the best match up by miles, it was back & forth game, terran keeping trading to keep zerg from getting to T3, fights all along the game etc Now it's just not the same & from a spectator point of view we lost a lot. Now it just seems that if the map is not suitable for strong drop play, zerg just have to trade inefficiently with banelings because he has so much more income & more tech incoming behind. At least this is what happened during the nestea vs supernova.

Supernova did 2 all ins in 2 games. The first being a semi all, the second being a all in. Supernova basically dictate what nestea should do. Nestea crashed his banelings to maruders because he has already won it. It was an all in. I don't get what you don't understand. He even brought scvs which died.

And why do you think a code S terran try gimmicky stuff like that? & again I'm not complaining about balanced, it's about boring matches.

You are right, balance aside the matchup is noway near as dynamic as it used to be. If it gets to the super late game you can get some really crazy stuff though, but it's not action all the way like it was when zergs were playing ling/muta/bane, but obviously they have found better strategies and terran's early pressure builds are not that good as well, so you get rather bland games.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 05 2012 11:26 GMT
#1909
On July 05 2012 20:22 Dodgin wrote:
I believe last time they played DRG was not yet a GSL champion?

So this is the first time ever that there will be a Zerg GSL champion vs Zerg GSL champion ZvZ in GSL?


Nope, In GSL May Code S NesTea beat FruitDealer 2-1!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7113 Posts
July 05 2012 11:26 GMT
#1910
On July 05 2012 20:25 EmmeCY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:24 Zambrah wrote:
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.


he wants everyone to know that he has a big package XD


As if we didn't already know...
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1911
On July 05 2012 20:20 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:15 Orek wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:11 Ragnarork wrote:
Well, would've liked something different than "the two zergs won over the two terrans" especially in these post queen patch.

It seems it took Ryung 3 games worth of skill to win game 1, the two next game being rather poor...

And Terrans still with a questionnable late game (Ryung vs DRG let us know that it can win battles, but not games, not like protoss deathball or Blords/Infestors)


Ironically, the only game Terran won vs Zerg so far today is the super macro game Ryung vs DRG on Whirlwind.
What's up with "Terran can't win late game after queen buff."
Terran late game might be tough today, but SUPER late game is and has been in favor of Terran with enough money for ghost and raven...


And ? What was the composition of Ryung ? What was the composition of DRG ? Not mentionning the suicide of infestors to marines, and HSM, though infestors have a bigger range.


I totally agree that Terran is at major disadvantage in late game after queen buff because Zerg can get away with super greedy builds. However, I still feel super late game is in favor or terran as Zerg does not have further transition after BL/Corruptor/Infestor when Terran can add ghost/raven if it gets to super late game stage when both sides have virtually unlimited amount of money. People will disagree, but that's how I feel now.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1912
2 lings vs 2 lings, pulling the hurt one simultaneously
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1913
On July 05 2012 20:23 zefreak wrote:
GUYS GUYS GUYS you can't tell if a matchup is balanced from 1 game, stop using this or that game as proof of imbalance.


I think it is possible to use pretty much one series. MC vs Puma at IEM Cologne just made PvT look broke as fuck.

Of course, it was that combined with the ridiculously low Protoss winrates for months that made Blizzard actually patch the game.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36920 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1914
On July 05 2012 20:26 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:25 EmmeCY wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:24 Zambrah wrote:
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.


he wants everyone to know that he has a big package XD


As if we didn't already know...

I didn't know. Why exactly do u know?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1915
Artosis wants us all to get food poisoning. Go acquire food poisoning!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1916
That was some cool Zergling micro.

Well, the actual micro wasn't anything special, but actually seeing a Zergling get micro'd at 60 supply was neat.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 11:28:13
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1917
On July 05 2012 20:26 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:25 EmmeCY wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:24 Zambrah wrote:
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.


he wants everyone to know that he has a big package XD


As if we didn't already know...

gayfortasteless.com

edit: damn doesn't exist anymore lol
Never say die
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97274 Posts
July 05 2012 11:27 GMT
#1918
On July 05 2012 20:27 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:26 Zambrah wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:25 EmmeCY wrote:
On July 05 2012 20:24 Zambrah wrote:
LOL.

Tasteless referencing his own dick in the middle of the stream.


he wants everyone to know that he has a big package XD


As if we didn't already know...

I didn't know. Why exactly do u know?

Tasteless is sexy
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7967 Posts
July 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#1919
not quite as crazy as their last zvz on antiga ^^
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#1920
On July 05 2012 20:27 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:23 zefreak wrote:
GUYS GUYS GUYS you can't tell if a matchup is balanced from 1 game, stop using this or that game as proof of imbalance.


I think it is possible to use pretty much one series. MC vs Puma at IEM Cologne just made PvT look broke as fuck.

Of course, it was that combined with the ridiculously low Protoss winrates for months that made Blizzard actually patch the game.

What happened? I mean the MC vs puma game. I didn't watch IEM
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