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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1021
On July 05 2012 19:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:01 Ribbon wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Flonomenalz wrote:
I heard Terran late game was UP.


Few games ever make it to THAT late of a game.

A Terran on 5 bases can afford an army like what Ryung was using. On a smaller map DRG would have won 30 minutes ago because Ryung couldnt have outmaneuvered his Broodlords the way he did.

The map made such an enormous difference, which isn't to take anything away from how Ryung played, but that game was one in a million, you can't compare it to the standard meta game.


Clearly, the solution is more maps like Whirlwind.

I want to see Symbol vs Ryung on Whirlwind now.


Perhaps that really IS the solution. That game is definitely evidence of what maps like Whirlwind can offer.

People have been complaining about Whirlwind since it was brought in because of its size and the lack of epic games. Hopefully this shows the kind of potential the map has, with so many expansions. Though games like that are a rarity on any map, much less one as new as Whirlwind.
Long live the King of Wings
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1022
On July 05 2012 19:02 Die4Ever wrote:
This is what happens when Boxer is your coach lol, he don't give a fuck about "balance", he says "why not ravens, ghosts, and vikings?" -"but that's impossible" "SHUT UP AND DO IT!!"
Leave it to Slayers to show the way


I bet Thorzain sort of intro'ed that to him. After all, MMA has stolen and used Thorzain's builds before, I wouldn't be surprised if Ryung did too, considering Tzain is at SlayerS house.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1023
Also people argueing about Terran being so good. Ryung won a huge broodlord/corrupter engagement and still couldn't push because he knew the reinforcements would have owned him. A few fungals and your complete viking army is gone if you fuck up once.

If Ryung would have LOST the air fight, Zerg could have immediately pushed him and won.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1024
Artosis is right, Nydus Worms would have been great on Whirlwind.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1025
On July 05 2012 19:03 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:57 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:56 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 MangoMountain wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 julianto wrote:
When there are so many vikings, dont you think mixing in just a few hydras would be a good idea?

No


So how does DRG win that then?


Not lose all his infestors to seeker missle.

Indeed. Fungals needed to be dropped on the ravens, really bad not fungalling them.


Fungal the ravens and then what? He can still HSM stuff..

Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_-


Then they'd HSM something else that does get close?

We really going to argue that Ravens with HSM are fucking unstoppable? Really? Pick the fuckers off with corruptors once they are fungalled.


...Where did i say that they are unstoppable? I'm just saying that just fungal is not enough to keep them from being effective.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1026
Wow, I guess Ryung gets hit early in TvTs or something? Rare to see a terran with that low a win percentage at less than 9 minutes.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1027
This is the first time I've ever seen the players of a race complain after WINNING a game.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1028
On July 05 2012 19:03 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:57 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:56 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 MangoMountain wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 julianto wrote:
When there are so many vikings, dont you think mixing in just a few hydras would be a good idea?

No


So how does DRG win that then?


Not lose all his infestors to seeker missle.

Indeed. Fungals needed to be dropped on the ravens, really bad not fungalling them.


Fungal the ravens and then what? He can still HSM stuff..

Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_-


Then they'd HSM something else that does get close?

We really going to argue that Ravens with HSM are fucking unstoppable? Really? Pick the fuckers off with corruptors once they are fungalled.


Using that game as an example, it was 21 Vikings vs 28 Corrupters (last-checked ~5mins before the fight). If DRG had fungalled the Ravens at a distance too far for HSM, then the Corrupters would take so much damage if they were to move forward to pick them off.
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1029
and now Ryung is catching overlords...what the fuck is going on....this is insanity
KT FlaSh FOREVER
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1030
On July 05 2012 19:03 aznball123 wrote:
people whining after such a great game. way to ruin the moment! ^^

It's more in response to idiots saying "hey look that one game when one player outplayed another proves the matchup is balanced! All you terran whiners were wrong all along!".

I'm a zerg and I find terran tears delicious (if only as karma) but I find that attitude really stupid.
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1031
It seems like such a shame that live report threads just seem like a chance for everyone to vent balance whine nowadays .
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1254 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1032
ryung forgetting weapon upgrade =/
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1033
On July 05 2012 19:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:03 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:57 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:56 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 MangoMountain wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 julianto wrote:
When there are so many vikings, dont you think mixing in just a few hydras would be a good idea?

No


So how does DRG win that then?


Not lose all his infestors to seeker missle.

Indeed. Fungals needed to be dropped on the ravens, really bad not fungalling them.


Fungal the ravens and then what? He can still HSM stuff..

Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_-


Then they'd HSM something else that does get close?

We really going to argue that Ravens with HSM are fucking unstoppable? Really? Pick the fuckers off with corruptors once they are fungalled.


Using that game as an example, it was 21 Vikings vs 28 Corrupters (last-checked ~5mins before the fight). If DRG had fungalled the Ravens at a distance too far for HSM, then the Corrupters would take so much damage if they were to move forward to pick them off.


You can also fungal viking.
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1034
On July 05 2012 19:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:01 Ribbon wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Flonomenalz wrote:
I heard Terran late game was UP.


Few games ever make it to THAT late of a game.

A Terran on 5 bases can afford an army like what Ryung was using. On a smaller map DRG would have won 30 minutes ago because Ryung couldnt have outmaneuvered his Broodlords the way he did.

The map made such an enormous difference, which isn't to take anything away from how Ryung played, but that game was one in a million, you can't compare it to the standard meta game.


Clearly, the solution is more maps like Whirlwind.

I want to see Symbol vs Ryung on Whirlwind now.


Perhaps that really IS the solution. That game is definitely evidence of what maps like Whirlwind can offer.


Let's hope Browder / Kim were watching and taking notes.
"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1035
On July 05 2012 19:05 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:01 Ribbon wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Flonomenalz wrote:
I heard Terran late game was UP.


Few games ever make it to THAT late of a game.

A Terran on 5 bases can afford an army like what Ryung was using. On a smaller map DRG would have won 30 minutes ago because Ryung couldnt have outmaneuvered his Broodlords the way he did.

The map made such an enormous difference, which isn't to take anything away from how Ryung played, but that game was one in a million, you can't compare it to the standard meta game.


Clearly, the solution is more maps like Whirlwind.

I want to see Symbol vs Ryung on Whirlwind now.


Perhaps that really IS the solution. That game is definitely evidence of what maps like Whirlwind can offer.

People have been complaining about Whirlwind since it was brought in because of its size and the lack of epic games. Hopefully this shows the kind of potential the map has, with so many expansions. Though games like that are a rarity on any map, much less one as new as Whirlwind.


Even for a game that was fairly epic it felt sort of slow compared to great games on other maps.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1036
Good description
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Fred Flintstone
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany73 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1037
can someone tell me how in the world can i watch the free gsl sq stream? why have they made it so difficult to use?
Yabba dabba doo!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1038
On July 05 2012 19:05 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2012 19:01 Ribbon wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Flonomenalz wrote:
I heard Terran late game was UP.


Few games ever make it to THAT late of a game.

A Terran on 5 bases can afford an army like what Ryung was using. On a smaller map DRG would have won 30 minutes ago because Ryung couldnt have outmaneuvered his Broodlords the way he did.

The map made such an enormous difference, which isn't to take anything away from how Ryung played, but that game was one in a million, you can't compare it to the standard meta game.


Clearly, the solution is more maps like Whirlwind.

I want to see Symbol vs Ryung on Whirlwind now.


Perhaps that really IS the solution. That game is definitely evidence of what maps like Whirlwind can offer.

People have been complaining about Whirlwind since it was brought in because of its size and the lack of epic games. Hopefully this shows the kind of potential the map has, with so many expansions. Though games like that are a rarity on any map, much less one as new as Whirlwind.


There's definitely merit to both arguments, but after that game all of us have seen the potential of what that map can look like. I still don't know where I stand, but I definitely don't dislike that map as much as I used to.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 10:06:54
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1039
No +1 atk oh dear
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 05 2012 10:06 GMT
#1040
Ah. Ryung finally gets +1 weap. Good thing he realized, or things would have gotten bad.
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