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SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1001
On July 05 2012 19:01 xxgeffxx wrote:
so i guess "macro better" is what we should say to all terrans complaining about vs zerg..

dont forget to instruct the zergs to play super passive ZvT as well...
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1002
OMG, they compared him to Flash, don't tell the BW-nostalgiacs, or we'll all be flamed to death.
j/k, Ryung's looking reaaaally solid today.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1003
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 18:59 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:57 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:56 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 MangoMountain wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 julianto wrote:
When there are so many vikings, dont you think mixing in just a few hydras would be a good idea?

No


So how does DRG win that then?


Not lose all his infestors to seeker missle.

Indeed. Fungals needed to be dropped on the ravens, really bad not fungalling them.


Fungal the ravens and then what? He can still HSM stuff..

Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_-


Then they'd HSM something else that does get close?
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1004
On July 05 2012 18:59 Sea_Food wrote:
I honestly dont understand why there isnt a single zerg who does not attack move suicide every infestor every single engagement, when terrans and protoss never do this with ghost or ht.

Because they can get away with it a moment. There was a time (and it's still here to some extent) when Protosses just a-moved -- regardless of whether your zealots were behind your stalkers or whatever -- because it worked for them. Once players start challenging zergs more they'll have to be more careful with their units.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1005
On July 05 2012 19:01 jjmmtt wrote:
Oh Sh*t I just voted for Prime in the team league *face desk* :S

Ryung vs MKP last match. I still give an edge to MKP.
I had a good night of sleep.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 10:04:03
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1006
On July 05 2012 19:00 Rokoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 18:55 iGoTThiZ wrote:
LOL @ T saying they have no late game


LOL @ someone saying Terran have late game.

That was super late-game. You can't afford that army until into late-late-game. In normal late game situation you run with the same army as in mid-game. He started making that "late game" units after 30 minute into the game.


I dont think that strat would work on smaller maps like Ohana and CK. Theres no away to keep avoiding the zerg army like he did.
I've got moves like Jagger
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1007
Tbh DRG should still have a decent chance to take it. He won't make that unit comp mistake again on a map that's too big to fight anything for 20 minutes.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
July 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#1008
On July 05 2012 18:58 Flonomenalz wrote:
I heard Terran late game was UP.

lol jokes.

Great play Ryung.


yes it is.

If this game show something, that's when a terran is very ahead at 20 minutes, you need to outplay your opponent like 20+minutes more to win the game ^^
Menwhile in toss or Zerg, if you are so ahead vs a Terran, just a-move+reinforce to win ^^
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 10:03:52
July 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1009
On July 05 2012 19:00 Notfragile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 18:56 Type|NarutO wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:54 Slagg wrote:
Terran stop whininh now


Are you serious?.... Did we watch the same game? Last 30 minutes Ryung was all over the map and trying to figure out how to widdle down Zerg while Zerg was sitting with his ultimative army... -_- Telling Terrans to stop whine after that, ridiculous.

Also usually Terrans can't have all expansions as easy as that. DRG could have burrowed lings there, could have destroyed a PF with banelings when he still had the bank but decided to take bad fights... and in the end lose.


Hey dude. What? What??

If DRG wasted 30 bane supply at lair stage to kill a PF vs a Ryung who looked to take every opportunity to push, what do you think it would have happened?

Turtle in ultra mode. Go berzerk in Blord mode. How the hell could DRG have done anything when he made broodlords? How the hell could have he won if he did not make it? PF means you have to sac a good amount of lings/blings to kill it, even if there is no army stationed there. That leaves you really vulnerable to either counter attacks, double drops or both at the same time.

Huge maps do not favour zergs. Medium ones do.


DRG had times with 5000/3000 or the likes of it banked once. Do you really think blowing up 1 PF does lose him the game? No it does not. He had enoug larvae before taking bad engagements and he didn't use his banelings good at all. Banelingdrops on mineral lines, blow up the PF. He had A LOT of options, but chose to play a maxed out slow army on the biggest map ever leaving all his expansions without defence.

He could have forced an engagement pushing the Terran main long before there were 6 ravens and plenty of ghosts at the time when he had tons of corrupters and broodlords. Also tell me how Ryung is supposed to push vital locations with creep covering half the map. The time the push hits, DRG has his complete army together again.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
July 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1010
DRG played like fucking shit that game. no other way to say it.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
July 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1011
On July 05 2012 19:00 Notfragile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 18:56 Type|NarutO wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:54 Slagg wrote:
Terran stop whininh now


Are you serious?.... Did we watch the same game? Last 30 minutes Ryung was all over the map and trying to figure out how to widdle down Zerg while Zerg was sitting with his ultimative army... -_- Telling Terrans to stop whine after that, ridiculous.

Also usually Terrans can't have all expansions as easy as that. DRG could have burrowed lings there, could have destroyed a PF with banelings when he still had the bank but decided to take bad fights... and in the end lose.


Hey dude. What? What??

If DRG wasted 30 bane supply at lair stage to kill a PF vs a Ryung who looked to take every opportunity to push, what do you think it would have happened?

Turtle in ultra mode. Go berzerk in Blord mode. How the hell could DRG have done anything when he made broodlords? How the hell could have he won if he did not make it? PF means you have to sac a good amount of lings/blings to kill it, even if there is no army stationed there. That leaves you really vulnerable to either counter attacks, double drops or both at the same time.

Huge maps do not favour zergs. Medium ones do.


To be fair, I really feel DRG made a wrong choice getting the BL, even before he made them. It's very obvious that the Broodlords would've gave Ryung a strong opportunity to cripple him.
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
July 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1012
On July 05 2012 19:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:01 jjmmtt wrote:
Oh Sh*t I just voted for Prime in the team league *face desk* :S

Ryung vs MKP last match. I still give an edge to MKP.


Ryung is TvT god, but that would be sick to see.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1013
people whining after such a great game. way to ruin the moment! ^^
Mmm, what to watch.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1014
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:57 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:56 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 MangoMountain wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 julianto wrote:
When there are so many vikings, dont you think mixing in just a few hydras would be a good idea?

No


So how does DRG win that then?


Not lose all his infestors to seeker missle.

Indeed. Fungals needed to be dropped on the ravens, really bad not fungalling them.


Fungal the ravens and then what? He can still HSM stuff..

Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_-


Then they'd HSM something else that does get close?

We really going to argue that Ravens with HSM are fucking unstoppable? Really? Pick the fuckers off with corruptors once they are fungalled.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#1015
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:59 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:57 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:56 Aeceus wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 MangoMountain wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 julianto wrote:
When there are so many vikings, dont you think mixing in just a few hydras would be a good idea?

No


So how does DRG win that then?


Not lose all his infestors to seeker missle.

Indeed. Fungals needed to be dropped on the ravens, really bad not fungalling them.


Fungal the ravens and then what? He can still HSM stuff..

Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_-


Then they'd HSM something else that does get close?


How does HSM not the infestors help kill the infestors?
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
July 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#1016
On July 05 2012 19:01 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:00 NGrNecris wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:58 Loser777 wrote:
Why does Ryung make this look so damn easy

that looked pretty hard to me


Yea it looked really fucking hard. Like, it looked like he was playing 2x better than DRG entire game but the map was so against him. OVERCOME ALL!


true dat. midgame came and I felt like fuck sake drg is playing crap in comparison but he'll probably win anyway. But no
Amove for Aiur
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
July 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#1017
That TvZ opening is pretty good, might steal that for ladder :X

Looks even safer than 1RaxFE cause of the 2Rax
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 10:06:02
July 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#1018
On July 05 2012 19:02 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 19:00 Rokoz wrote:
On July 05 2012 18:55 iGoTThiZ wrote:
LOL @ T saying they have no late game


LOL @ someone saying Terran have late game.

That was super late-game. You can't afford that army until into late-late-game. In normal late game situation you run with the same army as in mid-game. He started making that "late game" units after 30 minute into the game.


I dont think that strat would work on smaller maps like Ohana and CK. Theres no away to keep avoid the zerg army like he did.

Yeah the real part that trips up T players isn't that T3 tech necessarily sucks, but it's extremely difficult and slow (much slower than a toss throwing down a templar archives or a zerg going hive) to actually transition into.

Consider that to go BCs, for example, the Terran has to invest in a bunch of extra starports, extra air upgrades, fusion core, and the longest build time of any unit in the game. Relative to that investment, BCs aren't really an efficient tech choice, most of the time.
Что?
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
July 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#1019
--- Nuked ---
PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
July 05 2012 10:05 GMT
#1020
Great game by two great players after those BL's were made Ryuung just know how to counter it was really good.
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