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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:01 xxgeffxx wrote: so i guess "macro better" is what we should say to all terrans complaining about vs zerg.. dont forget to instruct the zergs to play super passive ZvT as well... | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
j/k, Ryung's looking reaaaally solid today. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:01 Jono7272 wrote: Lol, they can't get close enough. Fungal distance >> HSM. -_- Then they'd HSM something else that does get close? | ||
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On July 05 2012 18:59 Sea_Food wrote: I honestly dont understand why there isnt a single zerg who does not attack move suicide every infestor every single engagement, when terrans and protoss never do this with ghost or ht. Because they can get away with it a moment. There was a time (and it's still here to some extent) when Protosses just a-moved -- regardless of whether your zealots were behind your stalkers or whatever -- because it worked for them. Once players start challenging zergs more they'll have to be more careful with their units. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:01 jjmmtt wrote: Oh Sh*t I just voted for Prime in the team league *face desk* :S Ryung vs MKP last match. I still give an edge to MKP. | ||
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:00 Rokoz wrote: LOL @ someone saying Terran have late game. That was super late-game. You can't afford that army until into late-late-game. In normal late game situation you run with the same army as in mid-game. He started making that "late game" units after 30 minute into the game. I dont think that strat would work on smaller maps like Ohana and CK. Theres no away to keep avoiding the zerg army like he did. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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xongnox
540 Posts
On July 05 2012 18:58 Flonomenalz wrote: I heard Terran late game was UP. lol jokes. Great play Ryung. yes it is. If this game show something, that's when a terran is very ahead at 20 minutes, you need to outplay your opponent like 20+minutes more to win the game ^^ Menwhile in toss or Zerg, if you are so ahead vs a Terran, just a-move+reinforce to win ^^ | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:00 Notfragile wrote: Hey dude. What? What?? If DRG wasted 30 bane supply at lair stage to kill a PF vs a Ryung who looked to take every opportunity to push, what do you think it would have happened? Turtle in ultra mode. Go berzerk in Blord mode. How the hell could DRG have done anything when he made broodlords? How the hell could have he won if he did not make it? PF means you have to sac a good amount of lings/blings to kill it, even if there is no army stationed there. That leaves you really vulnerable to either counter attacks, double drops or both at the same time. Huge maps do not favour zergs. Medium ones do. DRG had times with 5000/3000 or the likes of it banked once. Do you really think blowing up 1 PF does lose him the game? No it does not. He had enoug larvae before taking bad engagements and he didn't use his banelings good at all. Banelingdrops on mineral lines, blow up the PF. He had A LOT of options, but chose to play a maxed out slow army on the biggest map ever leaving all his expansions without defence. He could have forced an engagement pushing the Terran main long before there were 6 ravens and plenty of ghosts at the time when he had tons of corrupters and broodlords. Also tell me how Ryung is supposed to push vital locations with creep covering half the map. The time the push hits, DRG has his complete army together again. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:00 Notfragile wrote: Hey dude. What? What?? If DRG wasted 30 bane supply at lair stage to kill a PF vs a Ryung who looked to take every opportunity to push, what do you think it would have happened? Turtle in ultra mode. Go berzerk in Blord mode. How the hell could DRG have done anything when he made broodlords? How the hell could have he won if he did not make it? PF means you have to sac a good amount of lings/blings to kill it, even if there is no army stationed there. That leaves you really vulnerable to either counter attacks, double drops or both at the same time. Huge maps do not favour zergs. Medium ones do. To be fair, I really feel DRG made a wrong choice getting the BL, even before he made them. It's very obvious that the Broodlords would've gave Ryung a strong opportunity to cripple him. | ||
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jjmmtt
Australia995 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:02 Koshi wrote: Ryung vs MKP last match. I still give an edge to MKP. Ryung is TvT god, but that would be sick to see. | ||
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aznball123
2759 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote: Then they'd HSM something else that does get close? We really going to argue that Ravens with HSM are fucking unstoppable? Really? Pick the fuckers off with corruptors once they are fungalled. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:02 Fragile51 wrote: Then they'd HSM something else that does get close? How does HSM not the infestors help kill the infestors? | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:01 EtherealDeath wrote: Yea it looked really fucking hard. Like, it looked like he was playing 2x better than DRG entire game but the map was so against him. OVERCOME ALL! true dat. midgame came and I felt like fuck sake drg is playing crap in comparison but he'll probably win anyway. But no  | ||
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KroN
Germany438 Posts
Looks even safer than 1RaxFE cause of the 2Rax | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On July 05 2012 19:02 Bashion wrote: I dont think that strat would work on smaller maps like Ohana and CK. Theres no away to keep avoid the zerg army like he did. Yeah the real part that trips up T players isn't that T3 tech necessarily sucks, but it's extremely difficult and slow (much slower than a toss throwing down a templar archives or a zerg going hive) to actually transition into. Consider that to go BCs, for example, the Terran has to invest in a bunch of extra starports, extra air upgrades, fusion core, and the longest build time of any unit in the game. Relative to that investment, BCs aren't really an efficient tech choice, most of the time. | ||
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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PonceDeLEGABE
United States117 Posts
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