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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
July 04 2012 22:24 GMT
#761
To passive, will lose again I think.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 04 2012 22:24 GMT
#762
Beasty is making ravens. Looks like I have a new favorite foreign Terran player, even if this fails completely.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#763
On July 05 2012 07:21 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:16 Witten wrote:
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.

I don't understand how, when both players choose low econ play, everyone looks upon it as an example of bad play. That was a pretty good game played by both players, definitely some decision making mistakes made, but none that made no sense given the context. Sometimes I think we're expecting way too much from the players, there's a fog of war, remember.

eh, the attack from killer, leading with his mutas into marine/thor, I can't say that was a good game by both players. Killer really should have ran over but nearly threw it away because of that attack
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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:26:11
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#764
How is it possible that a player loses such a big amount of drones, but can still battle the army of his opponent? Am I seeing this wrong?

This really scares me :x
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#765
Ravens... Somewhere deep in battle.net forums HammerSC2 is gaggling maddly:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328972
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#766
On July 05 2012 07:16 IshinShishi wrote:
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On July 05 2012 07:13 hitpoint wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:10 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:10 hitpoint wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:07 KonohaFlash wrote:
Plays terrible, wins the game. I guess Beasty just didn't respond quickly enough to the BL tech.


Stayed on 2 base for ever and then took a half base as his third. He had to end the game earlier, his economy was just bad once his main mined out.

You realize that's not bad play but a strategical choice to avoid the late game right?


What's the difference? It's a decision that caused him to lose. Making bad decisions isn't different from making other mistakes, like Killer's poor engagements.

There's a big difference in the sense that it's even questionable to call a strategic decision like that a mistake and killer didn't just have poor engagements, he played like shit compared to beasty on many fronts.


I think if you invest a lot in a plan which doesn't work and doesn't transition well into a late game...that's a pretty big mistake. Maybe his "strategic decision" was very good and his execution was poor, or maybe his execution was good and his strategy was terrible. Either way he was left in a terrible economic position against a hive tech zerg who recovered some of his economy. He probably deserved to lose.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#767
This is looking like a G2 repeat, he should have the raven energy for a couple PDD's soon though. Enough starports should tip this in his favor again from an army standpoint.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#768
On July 05 2012 07:24 Witten wrote:
Beasty is making ravens. Looks like I have a new favorite foreign Terran player, even if this fails completely.

Go watch some of Empire.Happy's games
¯\_(シ)_/¯
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#769
lol gglords gonna take this..
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#770
On July 05 2012 07:21 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:16 Witten wrote:
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.

I don't understand how, when both players choose low econ play, everyone looks upon it as an example of bad play. That was a pretty good game played by both players, definitely some decision making mistakes made, but none that made no sense given the context. Sometimes I think we're expecting way too much from the players, there's a fog of war, remember.


Personally, I just thought Killer's mechanics, execution and army control seemed very poor in that game. I usually don't feel knowledgable enough to judge a progamer's decision making, so I thought Beasty played quite well in that game. I think the doomdrop into the main ultimately cost him too much, but I wouldn't call it a terrible decision, it had the potential to work well.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
OMGaZERGling
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada44 Posts
July 04 2012 22:26 GMT
#771
I dont like Ret and Idra casting combo. both of their voices are to passive making it kinda boring.
ALL HAIL ZERG HEROS DRG - SYMBOL- NESTEA -
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
July 04 2012 22:26 GMT
#772
Why on earth are you going mass ravens beasty?? .. //o\\
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:27:08
July 04 2012 22:26 GMT
#773
iits funny hearing idra talk about infester control, since he probably has one of the worst

gooooo beasty
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2012 22:26 GMT
#774
On July 05 2012 07:26 OMGaZERGling wrote:
I dont like Ret and Idra casting combo. both of their voices are to passive making it kinda boring.

At least they know what they're talking about, unlike some people, cough *HUSKY and HD* cough
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 04 2012 22:27 GMT
#775
On July 05 2012 07:25 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:24 Witten wrote:
Beasty is making ravens. Looks like I have a new favorite foreign Terran player, even if this fails completely.

Go watch some of Empire.Happy's games


Yes. An airforce of Ravens and a seeker missile feast. ^^
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 04 2012 22:27 GMT
#776
On July 05 2012 07:25 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:24 Witten wrote:
Beasty is making ravens. Looks like I have a new favorite foreign Terran player, even if this fails completely.

Go watch some of Empire.Happy's games


Or Bomber even.
High caliber player who usually like ravens lategame.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2012 22:28 GMT
#777
On July 05 2012 07:26 ibo422 wrote:
Why on earth are you going mass ravens beasty?? .. //o\\

You've never watched some of Empire.Happy's late TvZ games have you?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
July 04 2012 22:29 GMT
#778
On July 05 2012 07:26 OMGaZERGling wrote:
I dont like Ret and Idra casting combo. both of their voices are to passive making it kinda boring.


I love it. So chilled.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
July 04 2012 22:29 GMT
#779
I don't really like the Ravens against Ultralisks, Seeker Missile is so much more effective against air units, not to mention PDD becomes less useful.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
July 04 2012 22:30 GMT
#780
So awesome listening to Ret and Idra commentating Zerg <3
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
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