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[TSL4] Qualifier 11 - EU/NA #8 - Page 38

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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
July 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#741
I hope killer wins so that these two don't have to cast PvT finals :D
#1 Grubby Fan.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:13:42
July 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#742
On July 05 2012 06:03 Cheebah wrote:It amazes me how Teamliquid still managed to add a special flavor to TSL. It doesn't matter how many other tournaments are going on these days, there's always a reason to watch TSL.


100% agreed. I guess it shows that when care is invested in a product, there's something intangible that makes the result more special. A stark contrast with some other organizations that just seem to throw content at the screen to see what sticks.

Can't wait for quals to be over and the real thing to start
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#743
12k viewers now, how many after beasty loses ?
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#744
On July 05 2012 07:10 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:10 hitpoint wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:07 KonohaFlash wrote:
Plays terrible, wins the game. I guess Beasty just didn't respond quickly enough to the BL tech.


Stayed on 2 base for ever and then took a half base as his third. He had to end the game earlier, his economy was just bad once his main mined out.

You realize that's not bad play but a strategical choice to avoid the late game right?


What's the difference? It's a decision that caused him to lose. Making bad decisions isn't different from making other mistakes, like Killer's poor engagements.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#745
Even tho i'm not a terran player i'd like if the terrans had "vessels" from BW but then hmmmm...
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:15:41
July 04 2012 22:13 GMT
#746
On July 05 2012 07:09 Scufo wrote:
Classic case of Infestor/Brood Lord/Corruptor steamrolling everything. That has to be so frustrating for Beasty...


No not really classic at all. Both players played poorly, and as much as I think Killer didn't deserve that win, Beasty really didn't either

On July 05 2012 07:10 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:10 hitpoint wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:07 KonohaFlash wrote:
Plays terrible, wins the game. I guess Beasty just didn't respond quickly enough to the BL tech.


Stayed on 2 base for ever and then took a half base as his third. He had to end the game earlier, his economy was just bad once his main mined out.

You realize that's not bad play but a strategical choice to avoid the late game right?


It was still a poor timing. Getting a bunch of tech with a 2 base all in timing is a poor strategical choice.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2012 22:16 GMT
#747
I think we can all agree here that both players went full-out foreigner last game
¯\_(シ)_/¯
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 04 2012 22:16 GMT
#748
On July 05 2012 07:13 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:10 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:10 hitpoint wrote:
On July 05 2012 07:07 KonohaFlash wrote:
Plays terrible, wins the game. I guess Beasty just didn't respond quickly enough to the BL tech.


Stayed on 2 base for ever and then took a half base as his third. He had to end the game earlier, his economy was just bad once his main mined out.

You realize that's not bad play but a strategical choice to avoid the late game right?


What's the difference? It's a decision that caused him to lose. Making bad decisions isn't different from making other mistakes, like Killer's poor engagements.

There's a big difference in the sense that it's even questionable to call a strategic decision like that a mistake and killer didn't just have poor engagements, he played like shit compared to beasty on many fronts.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 04 2012 22:16 GMT
#749
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#750
On July 05 2012 07:16 Witten wrote:
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.


This. I think TvZ is imba for zerg at the moment, but this game is not an example of it.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#751
The new TvZ openings: Banshees and 2 Rax.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
July 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#752
Damn, Beasty's production queue took up half the screen!
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#753
Yeah, Beasty is obviously better. I guess his build in game 2 was just really bad, since even with good execution, Killer could still defend while floating 1k/1k.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
July 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#754
These casters are excellent. I just had to say that. My nitpicking just does not work on Ret and IdrA!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:24:07
July 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#755
On July 05 2012 07:16 Witten wrote:
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.

I don't understand how, when both players choose low econ play, everyone looks upon it as an example of bad play. That was a pretty good game played by both players, definitely some decision making mistakes made, but none that made no sense given the context. Sometimes I think we're expecting way too much from the players, there's a fog of war, remember.

EDIT: I guess by low econ, I mean Beasty.
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 04 2012 22:22 GMT
#756
Banshees are still pretty good if your opponent isnt prepared for it. Beasty is playing pretty well, Killer not so much at the moment. Beasty is quite ahead.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 04 2012 22:22 GMT
#757
On July 05 2012 07:19 Warpish wrote:
The new TvZ openings: Banshees and 2 Rax.

Reactor Hellions into Triple OC + Double Ebay + Banshee is pretty old, nothing super groundbreaking at least
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 04 2012 22:23 GMT
#758
On July 05 2012 07:21 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:16 Witten wrote:
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.

I don't understand how, when both players choose low econ play, everyone looks upon it as an example of bad play. That was a pretty good game played by both players, definitely some decision making mistakes made, but none that made no sense given the context. Sometimes I think we're expecting way too much from the players, there's a fog of war, remember.


Playing low economy by not spending your money ?
Comon dude, Killer is stock pilling 1k+ mineral and 500+ gas ALL Game.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 04 2012 22:23 GMT
#759
I'm extremely impressed with beasty's play, his upgrade timings, his control, everything very on point.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:25:02
July 04 2012 22:24 GMT
#760
On July 05 2012 07:21 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 07:16 Witten wrote:
Game two was an awful awful game by both players, really shouldn't ever be looked at as an example of balance. Both players wanted to lose that game with all their hearts.

I don't understand how, when both players choose low econ play, everyone looks upon it as an example of bad play. That was a pretty good game played by both players, definitely some decision making mistakes made, but none that made no sense given the context. Sometimes I think we're expecting way too much from the players, there's a fog of war, remember.

There was a bigass bank for KiLLeR, something like 2k minerals at one point in the game

I really like Beasty mixing in Ravens earlier on than usual
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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