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On July 02 2012 00:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list. Stephano is much better than Taeja(he's won a lot of tourneys in 2012 and is always top 3 in others), he placed way better than him in all the tourneys that oth entered...You speak about a lot of Taeja's achievements but Stephano wasn't there so it's pretty stupid to compare them based on this(Ro8of code S or winning some MLG qualifier)... But i agree on Sase's part, the guy is so overrated it ain't funny, doing well in one tourney doesn't mean shit(hell, he's not even GM on the korean ladder).
because your not biased or anything
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On July 02 2012 00:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list. Stephano is much better than Taeja(he's won a lot of tourneys in 2012 and is always top 3 in others), he placed way better than him in all the tourneys that oth entered...You speak about a lot of Taeja's achievements but Stephano wasn't there so it's pretty stupid to compare them based on this(Ro8of code S or winning some MLG qualifier)... But i agree on Sase's part, the guy is so overrated it ain't funny, doing well in one tourney doesn't mean shit(hell, he's not even GM on the korean ladder).
I present the definition of bias.
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On July 02 2012 01:10 Kkxtrouble wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list. Stephano is much better than Taeja(he's won a lot of tourneys in 2012 and is always top 3 in others), he placed way better than him in all the tourneys that oth entered...You speak about a lot of Taeja's achievements but Stephano wasn't there so it's pretty stupid to compare them based on this(Ro8of code S or winning some MLG qualifier)... But i agree on Sase's part, the guy is so overrated it ain't funny, doing well in one tourney doesn't mean shit(hell, he's not even GM on the korean ladder). I present the definition of bias.
It's certainly less biased than saying Taeja is better than Stephano because he made ro8 of code S...
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On July 02 2012 03:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 01:10 Kkxtrouble wrote:On July 02 2012 00:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list. Stephano is much better than Taeja(he's won a lot of tourneys in 2012 and is always top 3 in others), he placed way better than him in all the tourneys that oth entered...You speak about a lot of Taeja's achievements but Stephano wasn't there so it's pretty stupid to compare them based on this(Ro8of code S or winning some MLG qualifier)... But i agree on Sase's part, the guy is so overrated it ain't funny, doing well in one tourney doesn't mean shit(hell, he's not even GM on the korean ladder). I present the definition of bias. It's certainly less biased than saying Taeja is better than Stephano because he made ro8 of code S...
qualified for MLG KR, all-killed Prime, been in code S for awhile, #1 KR ladder at one point, being one of the terrans in Ro8 despite the fact that Zerg is dominating. now is your turn ? ( plz don't tell me Stephano is better cuz he won ipl3)
I almost forgot that Taeja is the ESV KR-weekly bonjwa.
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On July 02 2012 03:41 Lennient wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On July 02 2012 01:10 Kkxtrouble wrote:On July 02 2012 00:21 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list. Stephano is much better than Taeja(he's won a lot of tourneys in 2012 and is always top 3 in others), he placed way better than him in all the tourneys that oth entered...You speak about a lot of Taeja's achievements but Stephano wasn't there so it's pretty stupid to compare them based on this(Ro8of code S or winning some MLG qualifier)... But i agree on Sase's part, the guy is so overrated it ain't funny, doing well in one tourney doesn't mean shit(hell, he's not even GM on the korean ladder). I present the definition of bias. It's certainly less biased than saying Taeja is better than Stephano because he made ro8 of code S... qualified for MLG KR, all-killed Prime, been in code S for awhile, #1 KR ladder at one point, being one of the terrans in Ro8 despite the fact that Zerg is dominating. now is your turn ? ( plz don't tell me Stephano is better cuz he won ipl3) I almost forgot that Taeja is the ESV KR-weekly bonjwa.
I wasn't gonna respond to your post since you usedthe term bonjwa, but whatever...
Go check his TLPD...but that's not an objective thiing since in a lot of those tourneys, Taeja wasn't there...
The only objective and fair comparison is to compare thme based on the tournamenets they entered both and how they placed in those tournies....and Stephano stomps no contest.
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I allways enjoy people saying x is better then y without providing any facts to back it up. This is sc2 we got some of the best stats of any sports.
So lets compare Stephano to Taeja shall we:
Stephano:
2011.
ESWC champion,
IPL 3 champion
2012.
IPL 4 UK qualifier insomnia cup: Champion
Assemply winter: 2nd place
Lonestar clash: Champion
Redbull battlegrounds: 3rd place
IPL 4: 5th place
MLG arena: 3rd place
MLG anahaim: 5th place
Dreamhack summer: 3rd place
ELO ranking: 1st 2462 points
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 5th
Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 9 123,000 dollars
Taeja:
2011
GSL:
Code S: R032
Code A: R04
2012
Code S: R08
Assemply winter: 8-16 place
Redbull battleground 5-8th
Dreamhack summer: 9-16 place
ELO ranking: 30th
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 9th
Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 99 10,150 dollars
So Hall0wed is right Taeja is much better!
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Jesus MMA going 0-2 against Losira, Byul, and Hyun. I guess we can't call him the TvZ specialist anymore. It's actually his worst match up now.
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On July 02 2012 03:49 blamekilly wrote:
Jesus MMA going 0-2 against Losira, Byul, and Hyun. I guess we can't call him the TvZ specialist anymore. It's actually his worst match up now.
That's probably true with most terrans at the moment. It'll be interesting to see how they adapt in the next few months.
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Was this ever broadcast? I never saw it scheduled.
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On July 02 2012 03:53 pak150 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:49 blamekilly wrote:
Jesus MMA going 0-2 against Losira, Byul, and Hyun. I guess we can't call him the TvZ specialist anymore. It's actually his worst match up now. That's probably true with most terrans at the moment. It'll be interesting to see how they adapt in the next few months.
And that was only for this tournament. He actually has a bunch more losses in other qualifiers to zergs. It's really sad. He was the #1 TvZer in the whole and now he probably can't even beat Master Zergs on the NA server. His TvP is better than his TvZ hahah.
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On July 02 2012 03:48 Benjamin99 wrote:I allways enjoy people saying x is better then y without providing any facts to back it up. This is sc2 we got some of the best stats of any sports. So lets compare Stephano to Taeja shall we: Stephano: 2011. ESWC champion, IPL 3 champion 2012. IPL 4 UK qualifier insomnia cup: Champion Assemply winter: 2nd place Lonestar clash: Champion Redbull battlegrounds: 3rd place IPL 4: 5th place MLG arena: 3rd place MLG anahaim: 5th place ELO ranking: 1st 2462 points http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 5th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 9 123,000 dollars Taeja:2011 GSL: Code S: R032 Code A: R04 2012 Code S: R08 Assemply summer: 8-16 place Redbull battleground 5-8th ELO ranking: 30th http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 9th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 99 10,150 dollars So Hall0wed is right Taeja is much better!
its so awesome to compare results of a guy who goes to every foreign tournament to one who has gone to a couple!
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On July 02 2012 03:48 Benjamin99 wrote:I allways enjoy people saying x is better then y without providing any facts to back it up. This is sc2 we got some of the best stats of any sports. So lets compare Stephano to Taeja shall we: Stephano: 2011. ESWC champion, IPL 3 champion 2012. IPL 4 UK qualifier insomnia cup: Champion Assemply winter: 2nd place Lonestar clash: Champion Redbull battlegrounds: 3rd place IPL 4: 5th place MLG arena: 3rd place MLG anahaim: 5th place ELO ranking: 1st 2462 points http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 5th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 9 123,000 dollars Taeja:2011 GSL: Code S: R032 Code A: R04 2012 Code S: R08 Assemply summer: 8-16 place Redbull battleground 5-8th ELO ranking: 30th http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 9th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 99 10,150 dollars So Hall0wed is right Taeja is much better!
Benjamin did you just try to use Elo with a straight face? Get that weak shit outta here. XD
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On July 02 2012 03:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:48 Benjamin99 wrote:I allways enjoy people saying x is better then y without providing any facts to back it up. This is sc2 we got some of the best stats of any sports. So lets compare Stephano to Taeja shall we: Stephano: 2011. ESWC champion, IPL 3 champion 2012. IPL 4 UK qualifier insomnia cup: Champion Assemply winter: 2nd place Lonestar clash: Champion Redbull battlegrounds: 3rd place IPL 4: 5th place MLG arena: 3rd place MLG anahaim: 5th place ELO ranking: 1st 2462 points http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 5th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 9 123,000 dollars Taeja:2011 GSL: Code S: R032 Code A: R04 2012 Code S: R08 Assemply summer: 8-16 place Redbull battleground 5-8th ELO ranking: 30th http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 9th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 99 10,150 dollars So Hall0wed is right Taeja is much better! Benjamin did you just try to use Elo with a straight face? Get that weak shit outta here. XD
Thats why I included sc2charts I like that better but not many use it:D
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On July 02 2012 04:00 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 02 2012 03:48 Benjamin99 wrote:I allways enjoy people saying x is better then y without providing any facts to back it up. This is sc2 we got some of the best stats of any sports. So lets compare Stephano to Taeja shall we: Stephano: 2011. ESWC champion, IPL 3 champion 2012. IPL 4 UK qualifier insomnia cup: Champion Assemply winter: 2nd place Lonestar clash: Champion Redbull battlegrounds: 3rd place IPL 4: 5th place MLG arena: 3rd place MLG anahaim: 5th place ELO ranking: 1st 2462 points http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 5th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 9 123,000 dollars Taeja:2011 GSL: Code S: R032 Code A: R04 2012 Code S: R08 Assemply summer: 8-16 place Redbull battleground 5-8th ELO ranking: 30th http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 9th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 99 10,150 dollars So Hall0wed is right Taeja is much better! Benjamin did you just try to use Elo with a straight face? Get that weak shit outta here. XD Thats why I included sc2charts I like that better but not many use it:D
Yeah but when you are using statistics to prove x is better than y, you need to use relevant ones. 
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leveLTory`Judah @Ethan_Ahn
Liquid`HerO wins 2-1 over FnaticRC_aLive Finals. #MLGsummer invite OQ. HerO is 1st. aLive is 2nd. #SC2
5:56 PM - 1 Jul 12 via web
Well, congratulations to HerO for winning the grand final 4:2 (2:1, 2:1) in extended series! 
final seed standing:
1위: 프로토스/Protoss송현덕/HerO(23)
2위: 테란/Terran한이석/aLive(02)
3위: 테란/Terran윤영서/TaeJa(21)
4위: 테란/Terran김동원/Ryung(03)
5위: 저그/Zerg황강호/LG-IMLosirA(16)
6위: 테란/Terran김정훈/Top(25)
7위: 테란/Terran박서용/FnaticRC_Rain(04)
8위: 프로토스/Protoss강현우/LG-IMFirst(22)
9위: 테란/Terran김동주/coL.GanZi(01)
10위: 저그/Zerg김동현/TSL_Revival(26)
11위: 테란/Terran조중혁/MVPDream(05)
12위: 저그/Zerg한지원/FnaticRC_Byul(09)
13위: 저그/Zerg고석현/TSL_HyuN(20)
Also:
Original Message From EthanAhn: Oh. First is Protoss. Race Mark is error in the Leveltory. i'm change tomorrow. Thx. u r message
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On July 02 2012 04:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 04:00 Benjamin99 wrote:On July 02 2012 03:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 02 2012 03:48 Benjamin99 wrote:I allways enjoy people saying x is better then y without providing any facts to back it up. This is sc2 we got some of the best stats of any sports. So lets compare Stephano to Taeja shall we: Stephano: 2011. ESWC champion, IPL 3 champion 2012. IPL 4 UK qualifier insomnia cup: Champion Assemply winter: 2nd place Lonestar clash: Champion Redbull battlegrounds: 3rd place IPL 4: 5th place MLG arena: 3rd place MLG anahaim: 5th place ELO ranking: 1st 2462 points http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 5th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 9 123,000 dollars Taeja:2011 GSL: Code S: R032 Code A: R04 2012 Code S: R08 Assemply summer: 8-16 place Redbull battleground 5-8th ELO ranking: 30th http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players: 9th Price earnings: http://sc2earnings.com/ rank 99 10,150 dollars So Hall0wed is right Taeja is much better! Benjamin did you just try to use Elo with a straight face? Get that weak shit outta here. XD Thats why I included sc2charts I like that better but not many use it:D Yeah but when you are using statistics to prove x is better than y, you need to use relevant ones.
True but I just included ELO becuase of TL and some people use it. Personaly I dont like the ELO system at all
Gz to Hero btw
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How did this turn into a Taeja vs. Stephano debate?
Both players are very good and comparing them is kind of stupid. They never met directly and rarely played in the same tournaments. Stephano might have more accomlishments. Taeja ist just starting to show himself offline after being an online-moster for a long time. Stephano started just like that.
Also, comparing Taeja's international ELO rating to Stephano's is a bit unfair. He played in just three tournaments if I remember correctly. It is like saying Taeja is better because he has a better GSL record.
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