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On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP.
Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano.
On July 01 2012 19:31 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 18:36 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 17:51 cablesc wrote:
Ganzi just beat Revival for 9th. That means that the qualifiers are:
Losira
Taeja
Ryung
Hero
Rain
Top
Alive
First
Ganzi This seems quite doable for Euros, noone really scary here. aLive in his IPL form could be a problem, but the rest does´nt semm to monstous. Edit: Just realised, that top 8 from srping are qualified as well, which makes it much harder. Players qualified from Europe are not exactly who you'd have expected them to be. Gonna be extremely hard. ... Don't click if you hate spoilers, I don't know if they're going to broadcast some games later on.
That is interesting I have to say. But you should edit it out, mods don´t like that kind of stuff. But I don´t mind, Bly and Tefel did well, too, last arena, so I don´t know, why these guys shouldn´t.
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On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:31 StarVe wrote:On July 01 2012 18:36 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 17:51 cablesc wrote:
Ganzi just beat Revival for 9th. That means that the qualifiers are:
Losira
Taeja
Ryung
Hero
Rain
Top
Alive
First
Ganzi This seems quite doable for Euros, noone really scary here. aLive in his IPL form could be a problem, but the rest does´nt semm to monstous. Edit: Just realised, that top 8 from srping are qualified as well, which makes it much harder. Players qualified from Europe are not exactly who you'd have expected them to be. Gonna be extremely hard. ... Don't click if you hate spoilers, I don't know if they're going to broadcast some games later on. That is interesting I have to say. But you should edit it out, mods don´t like that kind of stuff. But I don´t mind, Bly and Tefel did well, too, last arena, so I don´t know, why these guys shouldn´t.
Why should I edit it? What's the difference to this thread? If KR qualifiers are played and results are known, why wouldn't it be okay to post EU results with a spoiler warning?
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On July 01 2012 19:47 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. On July 01 2012 19:31 StarVe wrote:On July 01 2012 18:36 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 17:51 cablesc wrote:
Ganzi just beat Revival for 9th. That means that the qualifiers are:
Losira
Taeja
Ryung
Hero
Rain
Top
Alive
First
Ganzi This seems quite doable for Euros, noone really scary here. aLive in his IPL form could be a problem, but the rest does´nt semm to monstous. Edit: Just realised, that top 8 from srping are qualified as well, which makes it much harder. Players qualified from Europe are not exactly who you'd have expected them to be. Gonna be extremely hard. ... Don't click if you hate spoilers, I don't know if they're going to broadcast some games later on. That is interesting I have to say. But you should edit it out, mods don´t like that kind of stuff. But I don´t mind, Bly and Tefel did well, too, last arena, so I don´t know, why these guys shouldn´t. Why should I edit it? What's the difference to this thread? If KR qualifiers are played and results are known, why wouldn't it be okay to post EU results with a spoiler warning?
I am just saying, I once posted a tweet of team oGs, regarding IPLTAC results (in a spoiler) and would have gotten a ban, if I would´nt have it edited out.
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On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:31 StarVe wrote:On July 01 2012 18:36 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 17:51 cablesc wrote:
Ganzi just beat Revival for 9th. That means that the qualifiers are:
Losira
Taeja
Ryung
Hero
Rain
Top
Alive
First
Ganzi This seems quite doable for Euros, noone really scary here. aLive in his IPL form could be a problem, but the rest does´nt semm to monstous. Edit: Just realised, that top 8 from srping are qualified as well, which makes it much harder. Players qualified from Europe are not exactly who you'd have expected them to be. Gonna be extremely hard. ... Don't click if you hate spoilers, I don't know if they're going to broadcast some games later on. That is interesting I have to say. But you should edit it out, mods don´t like that kind of stuff. But I don´t mind, Bly and Tefel did well, too, last arena, so I don´t know, why these guys shouldn´t.
Taeja is easily capable of beating those players and any other players on a good day. He's currently in Code S ro8, ( again ) recently all-killed Prime including Marineking and Maru. Won a paid trip to IPL5, qualified for the invite-only MLG Korean qualifiers, and has now qualified for the Summer Arena. ( I probably forgot some other stuff, kid is on fire right now. )
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On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano.
I think he means the Taeja who + Show Spoiler + just demolished the IPL5 international qualifier (beat Squirtle, MC and TheSTC), does well in Code S, all-killed Prime and just beat lots of good players to qualify for the MLG Arena.
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On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano.
Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players.
Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this.
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On July 01 2012 19:47 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. On July 01 2012 19:31 StarVe wrote:On July 01 2012 18:36 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 17:51 cablesc wrote:
Ganzi just beat Revival for 9th. That means that the qualifiers are:
Losira
Taeja
Ryung
Hero
Rain
Top
Alive
First
Ganzi This seems quite doable for Euros, noone really scary here. aLive in his IPL form could be a problem, but the rest does´nt semm to monstous. Edit: Just realised, that top 8 from srping are qualified as well, which makes it much harder. Players qualified from Europe are not exactly who you'd have expected them to be. Gonna be extremely hard. ... Don't click if you hate spoilers, I don't know if they're going to broadcast some games later on. That is interesting I have to say. But you should edit it out, mods don´t like that kind of stuff. But I don´t mind, Bly and Tefel did well, too, last arena, so I don´t know, why these guys shouldn´t. Why should I edit it? What's the difference to this thread? If KR qualifiers are played and results are known, why wouldn't it be okay to post EU results with a spoiler warning?
I don't think you are wrong per say, it's just the word "doable" that's not very right to say, i'd more say they stand a minor chance. Big tournaments often bring suprising upsets i just think you are underestemating these korean players simply because you do not see much of them on the main stream atm.
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On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this.
Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well.
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On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well.
He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice.
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On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this.
You comparing Taeja to Stephano? What have Taeja won? how did he place in his last 3 tournaments? GTFO
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On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well.
Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there.
On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice.
No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore.
Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list.
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On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list.
I've never said SaSe is better than TaeJa, TaeJa is a really skilled and talented player, but he can be beaten, as SaSe showed twice.
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man, this is an interesting argument to follow.
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Hero is the best! WE BELIEVE IN YOU!
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On July 01 2012 20:42 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there. On July 01 2012 20:20 AxionSteel wrote:On July 01 2012 20:16 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 20:01 Hall0wed wrote:On July 01 2012 19:44 Xoronius wrote:On July 01 2012 19:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Doable for Euros, ha, have fun with that. Not even that crazy of a line-up but still far too much for foreign players. aLive in any form could win this, though with how Taeja has been playing I could see him walking all over this thing without breaking a sweat. especially with no DRG around to stop him. Hero would be the only problem for him, and maybe Leenock if he is playing ZvT on the same level he does when he plays MVP. Are we talking about the same Taeja? Because at Dreamhack I didn´t have the impression, that he is a threat to top-europeans. I would be very surprised, to see him taking a series of Sase/Stephano. Ok now I know that you aren't serious, comparing Sase and Stephano to Taeja? xD I can only assume you don't follow the Korean scene whatsoever and you are one of those people that continues to vastly overrate foreign players. Taeja did not play particularly well at Dreamhack and he has also been on a huge roll ever since then. Have you ever heard of the Korean Weekly? Yeah, they don't call it the Taeja Weekly for no particular reason. Please pay a little more attention to the scene before you try to say crazy things like this. Sase is 4-0 against Taeja and Stephano has won major tournaments , whereas taeja hasn´t. Why would you say, a guy, who is 0-4 against another is better than him? I know the korean weekly, but as long as Taeja doesn´t win offline, that will not make him a favorite. Take Goody or Nerchio, they have won numerous cups as well. He always shits on foreign players, it's nothing new. SaSe has dominated him the two series they met, but it's not because SaSe is a good player, it's because TaeJa had an off day. Twice. No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore. Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list. I've never said SaSe is better than TaeJa, TaeJa is a really skilled and talented player, but he can be beaten, as SaSe showed twice.
Didn't say Taeja is unbeatable, just that right now he is on a roll and if MC, Squirtle, and such can't beat him there is no reason to think that Sase possibly could.
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On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:
Stephano hasn't won a major tournament since IPL3 and since when does beating a particular person make you automatically better than them? There are so many examples of one person beating another when the loser in that situation is the superior player, I wouldn't even know where to start if I wanted to list them all. Go ahead and list Sase and Stephano's results in Korea though, I will anticipate these stats on their great play there.
Go ahead and list Teaja´s results in Europe and America. And while Sase destroying Taeja, everytime they meet, does not make him a superior player, it makes your point of them being in another league and HerO and Leenock being the only guys, who could stop Taeja, look pretty wrong.
On July 01 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:
No, I shit on ignorance. I like many foreign players and think some a quite good but I can't stand how many people overhype them to beyond ridiculous levels. I always try to avoid places where the overhype happens but apparently I'm not even safe in a Korean qualifier thread anymore.
Go ahead and make your case for how Sase is better than Taeja though, I am interested in what Sase has done that is better than all-killing Prime, and that is just the start of the list.
I didn´t say Sase is better than Taeja. I just said, he is better in that MU, and thus would beat Taeja. And stop telling me about ignorance, I don´t overhype anyone, I just say, a guy, who is already 4-0 against another, will most likely beat him again. You can´t just ignore everything outside of korea and than claim other guys to be ignorant.
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On July 01 2012 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
I just say, a guy, who is already 4-0 against another, will most likely beat him again.
That is not how probability works.
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On July 01 2012 21:23 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
I just say, a guy, who is already 4-0 against another, will most likely beat him again. That is not how probability works.
TIL Mvp will never beat MMA again.
Anyway to end this silly discussion, Taeja is back to back Code S ro8. This alone makes him a more accomplished player than Sase, and while Stephano has some good finishes when was the last time he won a premier tournament?
I'm really getting tired of the Stephano hype, every tournament all his ignorant fans predict him to win and then he loses.
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On July 01 2012 21:23 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:56 Xoronius wrote:
I just say, a guy, who is already 4-0 against another, will most likely beat him again. That is not how probability works.
If you look at math, it surely isn´t, I am aware of that. If you look at reality, if indicates the better player at this MU.
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On July 01 2012 20:46 opterown wrote:
man, this is an interesting argument to follow.
i like the bit where each side repeats their views without reading the other side's posts
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