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bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
June 18 2012 22:03 GMT
#5781
WOW! GJ with that delay...
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
June 18 2012 22:03 GMT
#5782
gn8 dont wait for that - european tournament starting past midnight, how stupid are those organizers
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5783
fuck this I'm going to bed - bullshit schedule, it's monday for pete's sake
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:04:23
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5784
I keep seeing people use the word "random" in relation with DotA.

It's cute, because it allows me to weed out the people who have absolutely not played a single game of DotA and not take their opinions seriously at all. Stop saying that a game sucks because you don't know what's going on. Out of all places, I thought a Starcraft community would be the most accepting of a game with a high skill ceiling.

Anyways, back to the game. Because that's what i'm excited for. :D
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5785
On June 19 2012 04:00 Gladiator MG wrote:
Why don't they just give force fields a decent amount of health like the Entomb ability on Oracles for HotS?

Cause then they'd have to make sentries cost like 50 gas to make up for it.
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5786
well, at least I didn't miss it..

great job dimaga and mana!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5787
they are interviewing djWheat on the tv now.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5788
On June 19 2012 07:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
From OP:
Show nested quote +
Finals
17:15 EDT (-04:00) as soon as DOTA 2 ends Grand Final (BO5) - DreamArena Extreme
DIMAGA vs MANA


Sooooo....


Well, they obviously need setup time.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5789
On June 19 2012 07:03 Massing wrote:
gn8 dont wait for that - european tournament starting past midnight, how stupid are those organizers


on a monday!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5790
Nobody can even use the 'it's an American tournament!' excuse.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5791
Any ETA on finals start?
o choro é livre
Havefaith
Profile Joined June 2010
90 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5792
I'm a huge tastosis fan boy but Tobi-wan is the best e-sports caster I've heard. I don't play dota but I love watching and lisitening to him cast. He needs to cast SC2!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5793
On June 19 2012 07:03 Massing wrote:
gn8 dont wait for that - european tournament starting past midnight, how stupid are those organizers


I can feel you, but now I will have to pull through or watching dota was was for nothing^^.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#5794
On June 19 2012 07:01 maartendq wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:53 Slardar wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:50 maartendq wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:43 GreyKnight wrote:
It's always amusing to read the opposing games forums cry in bewilderment how the other game doesn't make sense and they are confused why anyone would watch it

Wouldn't call it bewilderment. SC2 is very clear. A red army fighting a blue army, and the army that gets obliterated, loses. MOBA games like LoL and DOTA2 have heroes attacking seemingly random stuff, critters that randomly walk towards and attack towers. It's a lot less clear to non-insiders what's going on.

To be honest, I never played Brood War multiplayer, but it only took me a game or three on gomtv.net to have a general idea of what's going on, and by the 20th game I had a general grasp of the build orders the players were using.


You have to know what each individual hero does or is at least capable of to have some strategic grasp as well as a basic clue. (e.g. who is on what team?) Imagine watching Starcraft with no idea what the units did, all you can assume is one team shooting or attacking the other.

Give yourself time and a chance, if you learn the basics it will open up to you.

I watched Starcraft without much idea of what does what. I had played the campaign a few times, but I mainly started watching it because I once saw a documentary about Starcraft being a popular competitive video game in South Korea.

I had a great time watching practically all the games on gomtv.net, grew really fond of tasteless as a caster (I still am, even though Artosis drowns him out way too much and Tasteless' passion for Starcraft 2 isn't on the same level as his passion for BW). I found out very quickly how the game functioned. The premise was also very easy: destroy the other player's base.

Like you said, in a MOBA game you have to know each of the heroes, and there tend to be a lot. Next there's also the items, critters that randomly seem to attack towers (what's their function?), gold etc. There's a lot of stuff you cannot know unless you play the game yourself, or do a ton of research. That's not good for a spectator sport. Football, tennis, basketball, hell even american football are all sports that are relatively easy to understand for people who are new to them. The finesse unfolds if you watch it a lot. It's not something I see happening with MOBA games, a genre which I personally find a bastardization of the RTS genre (since you basically only have to control one unit).


Empirically league of legends has had a higher magnitude of livestream viewers than sc2 recently, at many events. So, I wouldn't be too sure about that theorycrafting. If a game is popular to play, and has a good competitive scene, people will watch.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5795
On June 19 2012 07:03 pred470r wrote:
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On June 19 2012 07:02 Adron wrote:
in other news, the stream just dropped 20k in viewers :D but almost 40k is pretty good imho ^^

I'm staying in because I like both games, but dota 2 more than sc2 :p


I'm staying in only because I don't have university tomorrow ^^. Otherwise I'd fuck this shit and be sleeping right now!
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5796
Luckily I have neither school nor work tomorrow. Otherwise I would have gone to bed by now. I'm still tired.

Please start soon T_T
What a player
Daxter
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland69 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5797
Past midnight finals start on weekday(even if it is summer) kind of sucks. It screws over any people who have to work the next day. At least it's not overlapping with football anymore.
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5798
On June 19 2012 07:04 Integra wrote:
they are interviewing djWheat on the tv now.

will there be something like a online review from the show? (tv show)
i would rly like to watch it afterwards tho :D
zap zap zap
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5799
On June 19 2012 07:04 Fenrax wrote:
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On June 19 2012 07:03 Massing wrote:
gn8 dont wait for that - european tournament starting past midnight, how stupid are those organizers


on a monday!

Yeah that kind of sucks. Have to go to work tomorrow :-/
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5800
On June 19 2012 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:59 r00ty wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:53 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:47 Sp00ly wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:46 Klipsys wrote:
SC2 fans get mad when BW fans shit on SC2.
So they SC2 Fans shit on DOTA2 Fans, who then shit on LoL fans.



Who do the LoL fans shit on?


Quake live.

no one shits on quake live, quake live is an insanely tough and competitive game, second most skilled esport behind BW

^ This. Seriously though, watching QL first person blows my mind, anyone who says otherwise is just...


Ye, LoL shitting on QLive... That's the biggest insult i've ever read! (if i'd take it seriously ). Q3 pros were gods amongst men!

I've never really watched it but I heard the quake games were some of the hardest games to play at a high level


First time I seriously watched a quake live pro match was a year or two ago and I was completely amazed at the immense skill of the players. The movements and predictions coupled with their timings of shots and power up pick ups, it is absolutely insane.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
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