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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#5801
It is getting late. Ugh, I was tired like hell today at work. And I have to work with a shitton of numbers so I can't make mistakes.
I had a good night of sleep.
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5802
What are you doing Dreamhack? People hasn't got the patience to wait for the finals even to start at 00:00 on a monday.
Start now, or at least show something, or kiss the viewers good bye (which is a terrible disservice to the growth of SC2)...
Seohyun fan
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5803
Poll: Who do you want to win?

Mana (53)
 
51%

Dimaga (51)
 
49%

104 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): Mana
(Vote): Dimaga


Poll: Who will win?

Dimaga (46)
 
52%

Mana (42)
 
48%

88 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Mana
(Vote): Dimaga


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polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5804
WHEN

IS IT

STARTING???
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5805
............................................. not the best dreamhack event this time T.T
yo
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5806
On June 19 2012 07:05 31415926535 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:04 Fenrax wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:03 Massing wrote:
gn8 dont wait for that - european tournament starting past midnight, how stupid are those organizers


on a monday!

Yeah that kind of sucks. Have to go to work tomorrow :-/


I have exactly this problem ... :/
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5807
can someone link stream please? I can't find it on the TL live report
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5808
For those who are a bit bored, here's a new (and short) interview with Blizz about HOTS. Quite interesting.

One
Two
MMA: The true King of Wings
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:07:11
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5809
On June 19 2012 07:05 Daxter wrote:
Past midnight finals start on weekday(even if it is summer) kind of sucks. It screws over any people who have to work the next day. At least it's not overlapping with football anymore.

its fucking 10am here ive been up all night to watch this, stop your complaining @@
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5810
On June 19 2012 07:03 pred470r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:02 Adron wrote:
in other news, the stream just dropped 20k in viewers :D but almost 40k is pretty good imho ^^

I'm staying in because I like both games, but dota 2 more than sc2 :p

There was more than 40k watching the second semi anyway, and over 50k for both streams combined at one point before that. It's just the dead air + bad time making people tune out, hopefully some will return for the finals.
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5811
On June 19 2012 07:06 Tewks44 wrote:
can someone link stream please? I can't find it on the TL live report

http://sv.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5812
On June 19 2012 07:05 aTo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:04 Integra wrote:
they are interviewing djWheat on the tv now.

will there be something like a online review from the show? (tv show)
i would rly like to watch it afterwards tho :D

You can watch the tv version here
http://www.svtplay.se/live/137305/dreamhack-summer-2012
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5813
I'm pretty sure we've now reached the point where the finals for at least one of the MLG Arenas started at a better time for Europeans than Dreamhack.

It's pretty bad.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5814
On June 19 2012 07:04 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:01 maartendq wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:53 Slardar wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:50 maartendq wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:43 GreyKnight wrote:
It's always amusing to read the opposing games forums cry in bewilderment how the other game doesn't make sense and they are confused why anyone would watch it

Wouldn't call it bewilderment. SC2 is very clear. A red army fighting a blue army, and the army that gets obliterated, loses. MOBA games like LoL and DOTA2 have heroes attacking seemingly random stuff, critters that randomly walk towards and attack towers. It's a lot less clear to non-insiders what's going on.

To be honest, I never played Brood War multiplayer, but it only took me a game or three on gomtv.net to have a general idea of what's going on, and by the 20th game I had a general grasp of the build orders the players were using.


You have to know what each individual hero does or is at least capable of to have some strategic grasp as well as a basic clue. (e.g. who is on what team?) Imagine watching Starcraft with no idea what the units did, all you can assume is one team shooting or attacking the other.

Give yourself time and a chance, if you learn the basics it will open up to you.

I watched Starcraft without much idea of what does what. I had played the campaign a few times, but I mainly started watching it because I once saw a documentary about Starcraft being a popular competitive video game in South Korea.

I had a great time watching practically all the games on gomtv.net, grew really fond of tasteless as a caster (I still am, even though Artosis drowns him out way too much and Tasteless' passion for Starcraft 2 isn't on the same level as his passion for BW). I found out very quickly how the game functioned. The premise was also very easy: destroy the other player's base.

Like you said, in a MOBA game you have to know each of the heroes, and there tend to be a lot. Next there's also the items, critters that randomly seem to attack towers (what's their function?), gold etc. There's a lot of stuff you cannot know unless you play the game yourself, or do a ton of research. That's not good for a spectator sport. Football, tennis, basketball, hell even american football are all sports that are relatively easy to understand for people who are new to them. The finesse unfolds if you watch it a lot. It's not something I see happening with MOBA games, a genre which I personally find a bastardization of the RTS genre (since you basically only have to control one unit).


Empirically league of legends has had a higher magnitude of livestream viewers than sc2 recently, at many events. So, I wouldn't be too sure about that theorycrafting. If a game is popular to play, and has a good competitive scene, people will watch.

Well, it's a free and relatively casual game, with in-game stream support (hint HINT, blizzard?). It's got a way higher playerbase than SC2 as well, again, because it is free to play. If SC2's multiplayer were suddenly F2P, we'd see SC2 player number surge!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:07:01
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5815
Apparently they needed to wake up iNcontroL. That explains the delay.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#5816
Well i said it right after the semi's when the break according schedule would only take a little more then a hour and even a hour break between semi's and the final is way to long. You break up your tournament with that, now it's over 2 hours.... it's just stupid.
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
June 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#5817
It was like this at the last Dreamhack as well. Both the game being ridiculously late, and having to wait for other games tournaments to gtfo so SC2 could start. And yet I've been stupid enough to sit through the same crap again.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
June 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#5818
They're clearly going for the lategame ...
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:08:16
June 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#5819
Before SC2 finals start!

Take a few minutes and learn what Quake is about. This video is perfect.
The player goes through whats going on through his head and explains the game, showing the intricacy and strategy needed to play it. Though I never played it before, after watching this video, I have major respect for the players.

SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#5820
DIMAAA BRING IT HOME FOR THE MTW SWEEP
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