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On June 18 2012 08:52 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:49 Xoronius wrote:On June 18 2012 08:47 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:45 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:36 Korelle wrote:On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote:
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. Wait wut? Both are avoiding Stephano and the left over Koreans. How is this a horrible road? Nani has to play his worst MU two times in a row, Sase one time. And even if they had an easier road, they would have deserved it by actually winning their groups, unlike Taeja and keen. How did these brackets came to be?
Winner of a group vs loser of another group.
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On June 18 2012 08:54 Kkxtrouble wrote:
I think all the terrans will fall this round...
time to buff the bunkerz!! xD
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On June 18 2012 08:52 bikefrog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:47 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:45 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:36 Korelle wrote:On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote:
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. Wait wut? Both are avoiding Stephano and the left over Koreans. How is this a horrible road? NaNiwa is terrible at PvZ. I'm already counting him out tbh. Cytoplasm will get destroyed by the winnier of HerO v TaeJa and SaSe is a PvT specialist without a single Terran in his path. I'm confident sLivko/DIMAGA or Fraer will take him out.
No Protoss is good at P v Z right now, its too hard.
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the top half of the bracket is nasty. and the bottom half comes down to whomever of naniwa and sase doesnt screw up.
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Well, lets put a positive spin on this. The tournament is AWESOME so far  . I loved the Naniwa vs Keen match with the Nexus snipes .
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On June 18 2012 08:54 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:53 Mackus wrote:The Dutch people should complain about using this exact same format for the European Football Championships Damn you RNG and your grabbing name out of the hat technique  Nah we are completely fine with complaining about the players and coach, thanks.
Agreed, I stuck £20 on them winning it, biggest let down ever
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On June 18 2012 08:54 Renfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:52 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:47 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:45 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:36 Korelle wrote:On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote:
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. Wait wut? Both are avoiding Stephano and the left over Koreans. How is this a horrible road? NaNiwa is terrible at PvZ. I'm already counting him out tbh. Cytoplasm will get destroyed by the winnier of HerO v TaeJa and SaSe is a PvT specialist without a single Terran in his path. I'm confident sLivko/DIMAGA or Fraer will take him out. No Protoss is good at P v Z right now, its too hard.
Sage? He eliminated DRG in TSL4 KR qualifier. HerO?
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On June 18 2012 08:55 Seiferz wrote:
the top half of the bracket is nasty. and the bottom half comes down to whomever of naniwa and sase doesnt screw up.
Dimaga looked stronger in Stage 3, also Fraer has 2nd best pvp in europe
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On June 18 2012 08:54 Renfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:52 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:47 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:45 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:36 Korelle wrote:On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote:
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. Wait wut? Both are avoiding Stephano and the left over Koreans. How is this a horrible road? NaNiwa is terrible at PvZ. I'm already counting him out tbh. Cytoplasm will get destroyed by the winnier of HerO v TaeJa and SaSe is a PvT specialist without a single Terran in his path. I'm confident sLivko/DIMAGA or Fraer will take him out. No Protoss is good at P v Z right now, its too hard.
lol what? pvz is favoring protoss in korea at the moment, huk just beat slivko to pvz. just lmao protoss isn't struggling at all in pvz the fact you think so is crazy.
Watch more pvz and not go by your own play and you'll realize it's not bad for protoss at all.
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On June 18 2012 08:54 Renfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:52 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:47 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:45 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:36 Korelle wrote:On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote:
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. Wait wut? Both are avoiding Stephano and the left over Koreans. How is this a horrible road? NaNiwa is terrible at PvZ. I'm already counting him out tbh. Cytoplasm will get destroyed by the winnier of HerO v TaeJa and SaSe is a PvT specialist without a single Terran in his path. I'm confident sLivko/DIMAGA or Fraer will take him out. No Protoss is good at P v Z right now, its too hard.
I didn't say "not good". I said "terrible".
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Has anyone seen protosser's games? He has beaten some very good players.
He legit good?
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On June 18 2012 08:53 Vorgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:49 oRacLeGosu wrote:
Where are the really good koreans in this tournament? Ofc there are a couple that would have a chance including Hero, but it seemes weard that a tournament like this does not have at least 5 tip top koreans from korean teams with korean skill.
What have I missed? Did they want Thorzain to repeat his win so much that they somehow went around the obvious top players? Koreans think of the US more highly than the EU, for historical reasons. An EU tournament will have a lot less draw for them compared to MLG and the like, while us "foreigners" don't necessarily make the distinction.
Weard..you would think they knew european pro players were better than americans and there-by more prestige. Is it because of the Rambo movies and Karate Kid or some cultural "the promise land"?
MLG is the best tournament these days imo btw.. I would attend that any day before DH.
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On June 18 2012 08:53 TheBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:47 flowSthead wrote:On June 18 2012 08:40 TheBanana wrote:On June 18 2012 08:33 Ammanas wrote:
I still don't understand why aren't all the tournaments with group stages using GSL format groups, rather than round robin. In that format it can never happen that player only loses once and is eliminated... Because the GSL-group system is unfair. Example. Player A is God and beats everyone. Player B is horrible and loses to everyone. Player C and Player D are exactly the same. C and D goes 1-1 (2-1, 1-2) against each other. The guy drawing player B advances and never faces player A. That is not the way it would work: A wins vs B C wins vs D A wins vs C and A advances D wins vs B and B drops out C and D have a rematch that decides who goes on. Neither of them have an advantage. A still gets out, B still drops out. In what kind of scenario would A being God and B being terrible give an unfair advantage? You have to win twice to get out, no matter what. You have to lose twice to drop out, no matter what. A vs B 2-0 C vs D 2-0 A vs C 2-0 D vs B 2-0 C vs D 1-2 How is this not unfair for C? He went 1-1 against D and actually beat him 3-2, still goes out because he didn't get the free win vs B.
Because he didn't win two best of threes. The map score doesn't matter as much as the best of threes. C didn't play consistently enough. Or D played more strategically by playing poorer strategies so he could face B. Either way, C didn't play well enough when it was all on the line. The map scores don't matter at all.
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On June 18 2012 08:55 Domus wrote:Well, lets put a positive spin on this. The tournament is AWESOME so far . I loved the Naniwa vs Keen match with the Nexus snipes .
It is already spinning very positively, some just don't get it (as usual).
And yes, THAT match was completely bananas. Also, inControl and khaldor doing an excellent job. They litterally cast more than I am able to watch. Impressive.
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On June 18 2012 08:54 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:52 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:49 Xoronius wrote:On June 18 2012 08:47 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:45 bikefrog wrote:On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote:On June 18 2012 08:36 Korelle wrote:On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote:
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. Wait wut? Both are avoiding Stephano and the left over Koreans. How is this a horrible road? Nani has to play his worst MU two times in a row, Sase one time. And even if they had an easier road, they would have deserved it by actually winning their groups, unlike Taeja and keen. How did these brackets came to be? Winner of a group vs loser of another group.
Ofc.
but how did they decide what group plays what group.
Pretty easy to wait for the results, then decide on brackets.
But meh.
Enough about the brackets. HerO vs Ret finals.
Lets go!
Fredrik Korsbäck@hugge_
@R1CH_TL @Slasher we did it like we did on Stockholm (and winter ). Randomized with seeding intact. Split it into each side of bracket.
Randomizing, good skill to have.
Yuk todays results for awesome, now im like meh screw dreamhack. Almost glad im at work tomorrow.
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On June 18 2012 08:54 sansalvador wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 08:54 Kkxtrouble wrote:
I think all the terrans will fall this round... time to buff the bunkerz!! xD
Don't be silly terrans won't recieve a buff until atleast Legacy of the Void when it's released in 2107.
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Exited for tomorrow. Sad that I can only start watching after 6 pm.
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On June 18 2012 08:49 oRacLeGosu wrote:
Where are the really good koreans in this tournament? Ofc there are a couple that would have a chance including Hero, but it seemes weard that a tournament like this does not have at least 5 tip top koreans from korean teams with korean skill.
What have I missed? Did they want Thorzain to repeat his win so much that they somehow went around the obvious top players?
DH is an open tournament. If the moster koreans sign up, they will play. If they don´t, they will not. Everyone gets the same treatmeant at DH, whether you are a korean superstar, a european/american pro, an amateur, a 84-year-old farmer, who plays Starcraft for fun or whatever. They went around nobody, just like they invited nobody.
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On June 18 2012 08:56 halvorg wrote:
Has anyone seen protosser's games? He has beaten some very good players.
He legit good?
He's consistently in GM in Europe.. Other than that judging by his name he's a high-ranking member of the Protoss or pro at being a tosser, I suspect neither of those tho
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On June 18 2012 08:57 Baalthersar wrote:
Exited for tomorrow. Sad that I can only start watching after 6 pm.
When are they actually kicking off?
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EPT
