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Woah livezerg just rolling over Mana O_o
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DieStar soundly beats HuK in game one on Cloud Kingdom with the help of a hidden early third.
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I imagine Artosis watching Khaldor cast, screaming at his monitor: "TRAITOR!"
Artosis pylon.
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Diestar takes game 1 off Huk.
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On June 17 2012 02:29 Notfragile wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:12 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:08 Schelim wrote:
i can't believe there's people that don't think the MLG format is the worst out of all the big tournaments. mind you, i didn't say anything about MLG's production value, quality of players/casters etc which are all amazing, but between extended series, bo3 all the way through, rather unimportant pool play, extended series, way too big of an advantage for more accomplished players, double elimination and extended series i think it's clear that their format is the worst.
oh yeah, and extended series sucks too. All those things are crappy about MLG sure, but at MLG I see back to back great games from great players Friday to Sunday. I don't see MC beating all day 1 to the point where the finals have to be on a monday so most people can't watch because they wasted an entire day of games letting random low leaguers waste hours of stream time with their once in a lifetime moment of letting Stephano win a 14 minute best of three against them. STOP. WHINING. (someone warn the guy) This format while not so interesint, gives motive to random diamond/master scrubs to play more. If you know you might twice a year face QXC, Stephano, Mana, on a tournament (and have your 5 minutes of fame) this gives you a reason to practice for. In that way the talented players may work hard enough to be spotted and taken into a team, where they might be full time gamers. This format does what's best to bridge the gap between the semi-hardcore ladderer and the hardcore ladderer/semi-pro, good enough to be taken into a team. That's where I think the european scene gets it's steam, that narrower gap. So, in a sense, what you're saying is "hurting esports TM". Close the streams and watch from tomorrow on.
There's a difference between lesser known semi-pros and Diamond players who have no chance of winning. I think because of what Dreamhack is it's ok for them to be able to play like this, just don't stream their games when there are actually good games left unbroadcast.
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Stephano finishing first in his group after 1 hour of total gametime lol.
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How did Dragon look today?
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On June 17 2012 02:32 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:29 Notfragile wrote:On June 17 2012 02:12 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:08 Schelim wrote:
i can't believe there's people that don't think the MLG format is the worst out of all the big tournaments. mind you, i didn't say anything about MLG's production value, quality of players/casters etc which are all amazing, but between extended series, bo3 all the way through, rather unimportant pool play, extended series, way too big of an advantage for more accomplished players, double elimination and extended series i think it's clear that their format is the worst.
oh yeah, and extended series sucks too. All those things are crappy about MLG sure, but at MLG I see back to back great games from great players Friday to Sunday. I don't see MC beating all day 1 to the point where the finals have to be on a monday so most people can't watch because they wasted an entire day of games letting random low leaguers waste hours of stream time with their once in a lifetime moment of letting Stephano win a 14 minute best of three against them. STOP. WHINING. (someone warn the guy) This format while not so interesint, gives motive to random diamond/master scrubs to play more. If you know you might twice a year face QXC, Stephano, Mana, on a tournament (and have your 5 minutes of fame) this gives you a reason to practice for. In that way the talented players may work hard enough to be spotted and taken into a team, where they might be full time gamers. This format does what's best to bridge the gap between the semi-hardcore ladderer and the hardcore ladderer/semi-pro, good enough to be taken into a team. That's where I think the european scene gets it's steam, that narrower gap. So, in a sense, what you're saying is "hurting esports TM". Close the streams and watch from tomorrow on. There's a difference between lesser known semi-pros and Diamond players who have no chance of winning. I think because of what Dreamhack is it's ok for them to be able to play like this, just don't stream their games when there are actually good games left unbroadcast.
What you don't see behind the scenes, is that Dreamhack takes care of players WAY better than most other tournaments.
They won't make "good players" sit and wait for casters to finish casting other games. They let them play out all their games as quickly as possible and try to cast what is available. There are tons of games.
If you are asking to see better games, you are also asking to make those "good players" sit around waiting a lot more, getting less time to rest, eat, study others. They just have to sit at their computer and wait for something to happen.
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On June 17 2012 02:35 MrCash wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:32 ZAiNs wrote:On June 17 2012 02:29 Notfragile wrote:On June 17 2012 02:12 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:08 Schelim wrote:
i can't believe there's people that don't think the MLG format is the worst out of all the big tournaments. mind you, i didn't say anything about MLG's production value, quality of players/casters etc which are all amazing, but between extended series, bo3 all the way through, rather unimportant pool play, extended series, way too big of an advantage for more accomplished players, double elimination and extended series i think it's clear that their format is the worst.
oh yeah, and extended series sucks too. All those things are crappy about MLG sure, but at MLG I see back to back great games from great players Friday to Sunday. I don't see MC beating all day 1 to the point where the finals have to be on a monday so most people can't watch because they wasted an entire day of games letting random low leaguers waste hours of stream time with their once in a lifetime moment of letting Stephano win a 14 minute best of three against them. STOP. WHINING. (someone warn the guy) This format while not so interesint, gives motive to random diamond/master scrubs to play more. If you know you might twice a year face QXC, Stephano, Mana, on a tournament (and have your 5 minutes of fame) this gives you a reason to practice for. In that way the talented players may work hard enough to be spotted and taken into a team, where they might be full time gamers. This format does what's best to bridge the gap between the semi-hardcore ladderer and the hardcore ladderer/semi-pro, good enough to be taken into a team. That's where I think the european scene gets it's steam, that narrower gap. So, in a sense, what you're saying is "hurting esports TM". Close the streams and watch from tomorrow on. There's a difference between lesser known semi-pros and Diamond players who have no chance of winning. I think because of what Dreamhack is it's ok for them to be able to play like this, just don't stream their games when there are actually good games left unbroadcast. What you don't see behind the scenes, is that Dreamhack takes care of players WAY better than most other tournaments. They won't make "good players" sit and wait for casters to finish casting other games. They let them play out all their games as quickly as possible and try to cast what is available. There are tons of games. If you are asking to see better games, you are also asking to make those "good players" sit around waiting a lot more, getting less time to rest, eat, study others. They just have to sit at their computer and wait for something to happen.
Didn't most pro's say Dreamhack was one of the worst for looking after players?
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I'm gonna say this Broodlord Infestor synergy needs a serious nerf . Head-on almost impossible to engage . Yeah you might be able to basetrade but this unit combination in general just makes for such ugly games with all the turtleling involved . I mean its basically sitting behind your siege Broodlords making them shoot stuff while waiting with your fully energy Infestors.
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Now why should we trust a post made by the Lord of Lies? D:
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LiveZerg takes game 1 off Mana
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On June 17 2012 02:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:35 MrCash wrote:On June 17 2012 02:32 ZAiNs wrote:On June 17 2012 02:29 Notfragile wrote:On June 17 2012 02:12 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:08 Schelim wrote:
i can't believe there's people that don't think the MLG format is the worst out of all the big tournaments. mind you, i didn't say anything about MLG's production value, quality of players/casters etc which are all amazing, but between extended series, bo3 all the way through, rather unimportant pool play, extended series, way too big of an advantage for more accomplished players, double elimination and extended series i think it's clear that their format is the worst.
oh yeah, and extended series sucks too. All those things are crappy about MLG sure, but at MLG I see back to back great games from great players Friday to Sunday. I don't see MC beating all day 1 to the point where the finals have to be on a monday so most people can't watch because they wasted an entire day of games letting random low leaguers waste hours of stream time with their once in a lifetime moment of letting Stephano win a 14 minute best of three against them. STOP. WHINING. (someone warn the guy) This format while not so interesint, gives motive to random diamond/master scrubs to play more. If you know you might twice a year face QXC, Stephano, Mana, on a tournament (and have your 5 minutes of fame) this gives you a reason to practice for. In that way the talented players may work hard enough to be spotted and taken into a team, where they might be full time gamers. This format does what's best to bridge the gap between the semi-hardcore ladderer and the hardcore ladderer/semi-pro, good enough to be taken into a team. That's where I think the european scene gets it's steam, that narrower gap. So, in a sense, what you're saying is "hurting esports TM". Close the streams and watch from tomorrow on. There's a difference between lesser known semi-pros and Diamond players who have no chance of winning. I think because of what Dreamhack is it's ok for them to be able to play like this, just don't stream their games when there are actually good games left unbroadcast. What you don't see behind the scenes, is that Dreamhack takes care of players WAY better than most other tournaments. They won't make "good players" sit and wait for casters to finish casting other games. They let them play out all their games as quickly as possible and try to cast what is available. There are tons of games. If you are asking to see better games, you are also asking to make those "good players" sit around waiting a lot more, getting less time to rest, eat, study others. They just have to sit at their computer and wait for something to happen. Didn't most pro's say Dreamhack was one of the worst for looking after players?
Everyone, from players to casters, have always praised dreamhack for their attentiveness and care.
It's possible someone was unhappy, I would be curious to know who, but that's far from common.
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On June 17 2012 02:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:35 MrCash wrote:On June 17 2012 02:32 ZAiNs wrote:On June 17 2012 02:29 Notfragile wrote:On June 17 2012 02:12 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:08 Schelim wrote:
i can't believe there's people that don't think the MLG format is the worst out of all the big tournaments. mind you, i didn't say anything about MLG's production value, quality of players/casters etc which are all amazing, but between extended series, bo3 all the way through, rather unimportant pool play, extended series, way too big of an advantage for more accomplished players, double elimination and extended series i think it's clear that their format is the worst.
oh yeah, and extended series sucks too. All those things are crappy about MLG sure, but at MLG I see back to back great games from great players Friday to Sunday. I don't see MC beating all day 1 to the point where the finals have to be on a monday so most people can't watch because they wasted an entire day of games letting random low leaguers waste hours of stream time with their once in a lifetime moment of letting Stephano win a 14 minute best of three against them. STOP. WHINING. (someone warn the guy) This format while not so interesint, gives motive to random diamond/master scrubs to play more. If you know you might twice a year face QXC, Stephano, Mana, on a tournament (and have your 5 minutes of fame) this gives you a reason to practice for. In that way the talented players may work hard enough to be spotted and taken into a team, where they might be full time gamers. This format does what's best to bridge the gap between the semi-hardcore ladderer and the hardcore ladderer/semi-pro, good enough to be taken into a team. That's where I think the european scene gets it's steam, that narrower gap. So, in a sense, what you're saying is "hurting esports TM". Close the streams and watch from tomorrow on. There's a difference between lesser known semi-pros and Diamond players who have no chance of winning. I think because of what Dreamhack is it's ok for them to be able to play like this, just don't stream their games when there are actually good games left unbroadcast. What you don't see behind the scenes, is that Dreamhack takes care of players WAY better than most other tournaments. They won't make "good players" sit and wait for casters to finish casting other games. They let them play out all their games as quickly as possible and try to cast what is available. There are tons of games. If you are asking to see better games, you are also asking to make those "good players" sit around waiting a lot more, getting less time to rest, eat, study others. They just have to sit at their computer and wait for something to happen. Didn't most pro's say Dreamhack was one of the worst for looking after players?
yeah from what ive heard the dreamhack schedule is BRUTAL on players
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I'm not entirely sure that was a build by Stephano and more just him sipping lemonade and hitting the S and R keys followed by the A key.
Most entertaining walkover I've ever had the pleasure to witness.
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On June 17 2012 02:37 MrCash wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:35 MrCash wrote:On June 17 2012 02:32 ZAiNs wrote:On June 17 2012 02:29 Notfragile wrote:On June 17 2012 02:12 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 02:08 Schelim wrote:
i can't believe there's people that don't think the MLG format is the worst out of all the big tournaments. mind you, i didn't say anything about MLG's production value, quality of players/casters etc which are all amazing, but between extended series, bo3 all the way through, rather unimportant pool play, extended series, way too big of an advantage for more accomplished players, double elimination and extended series i think it's clear that their format is the worst.
oh yeah, and extended series sucks too. All those things are crappy about MLG sure, but at MLG I see back to back great games from great players Friday to Sunday. I don't see MC beating all day 1 to the point where the finals have to be on a monday so most people can't watch because they wasted an entire day of games letting random low leaguers waste hours of stream time with their once in a lifetime moment of letting Stephano win a 14 minute best of three against them. STOP. WHINING. (someone warn the guy) This format while not so interesint, gives motive to random diamond/master scrubs to play more. If you know you might twice a year face QXC, Stephano, Mana, on a tournament (and have your 5 minutes of fame) this gives you a reason to practice for. In that way the talented players may work hard enough to be spotted and taken into a team, where they might be full time gamers. This format does what's best to bridge the gap between the semi-hardcore ladderer and the hardcore ladderer/semi-pro, good enough to be taken into a team. That's where I think the european scene gets it's steam, that narrower gap. So, in a sense, what you're saying is "hurting esports TM". Close the streams and watch from tomorrow on. There's a difference between lesser known semi-pros and Diamond players who have no chance of winning. I think because of what Dreamhack is it's ok for them to be able to play like this, just don't stream their games when there are actually good games left unbroadcast. What you don't see behind the scenes, is that Dreamhack takes care of players WAY better than most other tournaments. They won't make "good players" sit and wait for casters to finish casting other games. They let them play out all their games as quickly as possible and try to cast what is available. There are tons of games. If you are asking to see better games, you are also asking to make those "good players" sit around waiting a lot more, getting less time to rest, eat, study others. They just have to sit at their computer and wait for something to happen. Didn't most pro's say Dreamhack was one of the worst for looking after players? Everyone, from players to casters, have always praised dreamhack for their attentiveness and care. It's possible someone was unhappy, I would be curious to know who, but that's far from common.
In the invitationals.
In the big events like these both Idra and Naniwa have complained about the admin's.
IPL is the only big tournament to really get universal praise on that front.
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On June 17 2012 02:27 YourHarry wrote:
15,000 for the first place!! That's a lot~
Weaker competition... If I were DRG, I'd come here.
Too bad DRG plays in tournaments for the competition. Money is just icing on the cake. DRG would probably rather do GSL instead of being like Stephano and delaying his GSL invite once again because he'd rather not prove himself and take the easy money. Korean motivation way different than some foreigners. Only reason why MC had to pull out is because GSL takes priority. Better off playing in GSL and proving yourself as the best by getting far in GSL then slacking off and having people question your decisions because you are so high strung on yourself as being the best but not going to Korea to prove it.
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On June 17 2012 02:38 VisonKai wrote:
I'm not entirely sure that was a build by Stephano and more just him sipping lemonade and hitting the S and R keys followed by the A key.
Most entertaining walkover I've ever had the pleasure to witness.
He entered the game and then accidentally won it 
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