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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
June 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#1541
On June 14 2012 20:48 ancientmariner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:43 Tanngrisnir wrote:
Excited to see what SuHoSin can bring to the table vs Happy!



Roaches and Banelings.



LOL! Good call
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
June 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#1542
I never understood why players never throw done a scan before 7 mins at latest when they are denied scouting. I guess the mule is big early game.
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
June 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#1543
On June 14 2012 20:47 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:41 Nosferatos wrote:
MVP should have made bunkers on the high ground, not good reads overall that series vs Genius.




Yeah, and it would take two stalker volleys to insta kill it.


Had he made that bunker from the start (when he saw the two stalkers), his position would have been better. But he played too greedly thinking his micro would be enough, bad choise.
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
June 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1544
On June 14 2012 20:48 Day9notdead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:26 BuzZoo wrote:
To all the terrans who seem unhappy with that - why on earth wouldn't you use one more scan to see how many gateways you are dealing with? I just feel like terrans feel so entitled to mule with impunity.


Yeah, I am terran and I always do that because all protoss players always put their gates right where my scan hits. They do that in perfect rows as well so I can count them easily. So, good point, scans always work ...


Antiga main is small enough that you can get all the information you need in one scan.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
UKSCgAn
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
June 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1545
On June 14 2012 20:46 Lightspeaker wrote:
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On June 14 2012 20:42 TechNoTrance wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:39 iXphobos wrote:
Wow, time to leave the thread for today.
Can't stand it anymore.


Yeah too bad some people feel the need to whine about balance everytime a player of their race loses. Some of these people belong on the bnet forums.


I genuinely think the live report threads get WORSE than the bnet forums actually. Shocking as that sounds.

Seriously...a Terran loses to a Protoss all-in and suddenly "omg this shows terran early/mid isn't stronger than Protoss'". Really? *facepalm*


Regardless I'm delighted for Genius. Easily one of my favourite players.


Nothing is worse than the bnet forums. You get more reasonable conversation out of /b than the bnet forums.

Anywhoo, hope Mvp can make it out of the group in second place. Genius done well to cheese him out. Mvp fanboy, but wp Genius. Looking forward to seeing who picks Genius up now that he's teamless.

Also, to people saying Mvp is cheesy, Mvp plays to win. That's his truest strength and the reason why he is the 4 times GSL Code S Champion.
MVP HWAITING!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1546
On June 14 2012 20:43 Tanngrisnir wrote:
When are they going to fix Terran? So tired of seeing brilliant terran players beeing forced into mainly cheesing or taking huge riscs because it just isnt viable to play long interesting games with terran. Mvp tries from time to time against players far lesser then himself but usually doesnt go so well.

The hell is going on in that blizzard office? Cant you see the terran race is terrible?

[image loading]
^ @ PvT, just sayin'
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1547
Stop bitching about the guys bitching about balance. They will get banned by TL mods. Just wait and see. At most, report them. But don't feed them!!!!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1548
This is. The biggest fucking map. I've ever seen. Wow.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
June 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1549
On June 14 2012 20:44 Soyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:43 Kiyo. wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:41 Nosferatos wrote:
MVP should have made bunkers on the high ground, not good reads overall that series vs Genius.


That's what some of these whining MVP fans aren't realizing. It's definitely possible to hold that off if he had scouter/scanned/read that situation properly. A bunker on the high ground would have been finished if he had started it as soon as he saw those 2 Stalkers warp in at the pylon.


Korean terrans don't like scanning, unless it's an observer, it seems!

Edit: Which makes sense, but of course it's a risk (that indeed many are willing to take).


humm doesn't scan toss base is not a risk in 1 base toss situations, the risk is to scan ! :
-you probably won't scout nothing with one scan vs a chessy toss player who know how to hide things
-you need this scan if he go DT
-you need the more minerals possible to make bunker/rines/repair/wathever
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
June 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1550
I sometimes feel like many people dont play this game at all.

Guys, MVP lost to 3/4gate blink as he had one ONE bunker and hasn't seen anything at all.
the game is the game
Tanngrisnir
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden131 Posts
June 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1551
On June 14 2012 20:45 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:43 mordk wrote:
I really hate how people talk about MVP as some sort of low level cheeser and nothing more. You people need to learn some respect, MVP is the best cheeser/macro/standard SC2 player yet, in any race. If you fail to see that its his decision making and game sense that make him so good you shouldnt even watch starcraft.

You people could call Flash a 'noob cheeser' wtf (and im not even comparing them, Flash is obviously better at BW than MVP at SC2)



MVP will cheese if he thinks it is his best chance to win a particular game. This may be because he believes a map or match-up is imbalanced or his wrists are sore. He is undoubtedly the best player in the game.



MVP cheese with sadface buddy. He wants to play long games and let his skill come out and his mechanics and decisions extend over longer games. However he is terran and its not really viable to do that against either zerg or protoss considering how this game is designed

He plays alot of zerg on ladder and regurarly beat players like MarineKing, Bomber etc ZvT. Hes pretty open about terran beeing poorly designed and very underpowered. You really have to own your oponent if you want to win in a longer game with terran, i mean completely outclass. Amazingly we have some terrans that show that supricingly frequently in korea. However the terran players cheese frequency is geting higher and higher as the competition gets closer, not because they want to but there isnt many other viable options.

Even against inferior oponents you frequently see classy terran players cheese now a days.
God of thunder, god of pain!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1552
GSL Whirlwind
T-Happy spawning 7 Z-Line spawning 1

Happy CC first followed by gas and barracks NOT* 2 rax.

Line with a fast third base.

Happy transitioning into reactor hellions with banshee, followed up by 2 more barracks, making reactors with his factory.

Line morphing a lair while getting double evo chambers and, who knew, a roach warren ><
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
June 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1553
On June 14 2012 20:51 Probe1 wrote:
This is. The biggest fucking map. I've ever seen. Wow.

Yeah, I didn't really realise at first how huge it actually is!
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
UKSCgAn
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 11:53:45
June 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1554
Good map position for Happy me thinks. Defensive planetary at 4th expanding towards Line would be strong.

EDIT: And when did Zerg start building so many Roaches? Last night ladder, all TvZ had a ton of Roaches in them.
MVP HWAITING!
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
June 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1555
On June 14 2012 20:50 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:48 Day9notdead wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:26 BuzZoo wrote:
To all the terrans who seem unhappy with that - why on earth wouldn't you use one more scan to see how many gateways you are dealing with? I just feel like terrans feel so entitled to mule with impunity.


Yeah, I am terran and I always do that because all protoss players always put their gates right where my scan hits. They do that in perfect rows as well so I can count them easily. So, good point, scans always work ...


Antiga main is small enough that you can get all the information you need in one scan.

They were not talking about Antiga -.- And how you scan a two-base protoss perfectly? People really think you scan everything easily.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1556
They should add a +1 range to Siege Tank research in HOTS lol. That would make TvT so interesting, who can rush to the upgrade the fastest.
MMA: The true King of Wings
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
June 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1557
On June 14 2012 20:47 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 20:46 Lightspeaker wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:42 TechNoTrance wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:39 iXphobos wrote:
Wow, time to leave the thread for today.
Can't stand it anymore.


Yeah too bad some people feel the need to whine about balance everytime a player of their race loses. Some of these people belong on the bnet forums.


I genuinely think the live report threads get WORSE than the bnet forums actually. Shocking as that sounds.

Seriously...a Terran loses to a Protoss all-in and suddenly "omg this shows terran early/mid isn't stronger than Protoss'". Really? *facepalm*


Regardless I'm delighted for Genius. Easily one of my favourite players.


I think the Bnet people are flooding into here. The horror.


http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

:/
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1558
Line likes his Roaches.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
June 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1559
Ok seriously people complaining about cheese is getting old as fuck. It works, it's a legitimate way to win, deal with it. A truly good player is good at both cheese and macro to keep opponents on their toes, look at MVP. And Flash, the best SC1 player of all time understands that cheesing sometimes is good.
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 11:53:33
June 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1560
I'm starting to like Line.

I still don't think he belongs in Code S at all but he's playing differently to just about every other zerg again.
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