Casters: Marcus "djWHEAT" Graham & Taylor "PainUser" Parsons
Format
The Evil Geniuses Master's Cup Series League will feature 12 teams in a round robin format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams. The top four teams at the end of the season will advance to the playoffs on a two day live broadcast weekend. Results
No DeMuslim vs. Tgun grudge match, . Was looking forward to seeing how that goes. EG to win, either barely on the strength of their Koreans 3-2, or 3-1.
My Predictions: Demuslim 2-0 Ostojiy. Demu's TvZ is pretty beastly right now. Idra 1-2? Jyp 2-1? Puma 2-0? It's Puma, and tgun was less than inspiring last week, though for the sake of foreigner pride, I wouldn't mind tgun putting up a fight and winning.
JYP could lose since its PvP, who knows. And I really want IdrA to win, but worried that he might not be up to top draw after last week's events.
On May 16 2012 14:18 Falconblade wrote: No DeMuslim vs. Tgun grudge match, . Was looking forward to seeing how that goes. EG to win, barely, on the strength of their Koreans 3-2 or 3-1.
This is very sad. This goes from must watch to will probably watch anyways.
How it should go but IdrA will likely choke an DeMu could go either way though any way it happens EG should win though they've been known for the choke job...
On May 16 2012 14:20 GhandiEAGLE wrote: pretty easy win for EG frankly, due to GoSu having no koreans.
cause Gosu's foreigners are better than EGs?
Debatable. I'd think that Demuslim is better on average, IdrA is probably below them right now due to form. HuK and Thorzain are clearly better across the board.
Of the two foreigners playing today, Demuslim has a good TvZ of late, and beat Ostojiy last time they met, and only one foreigner needs to win if the two Koreans win as they theoretically should.
Could go either way I'd say, but voted for EG 'cause it's the safer pick here. But Gosu's players always surprise me in this team league, even though they don't win many team matches, they usually make it close.
I would guess that it would be Hwangsin vs. Puma in the ace but idk, if that is the case, I think the game could go either way. Put a gun to my head, I would go with Puma. EG Fighting 3-2!
I like how every time there is an exciting game you look at a LR thread and at least one person is like "both players played very sloppy" like stfu its just annoying that was a pretty fun game
On May 17 2012 11:14 McPhiz wrote: I like how every time there is an exciting game you look at a LR thread and at least one person is like "both players played very sloppy" like stfu its just annoying that was a pretty fun game
because game 1 was sloppy. demuslim played game 2 so much better than he did game 1.
just cause it was sloppy doesn't mean it wasn't good. i'm still watching for a reason.
edit: for that matter, both players played game 2 much better. probably why it was the better game.
On May 17 2012 11:31 sashamunguia wrote: I missed it, how did the first game vs STX ended?
STX did an early timing with a bunch of marines and hellions. Idra was going for infestors, but didn't have them out in time and had only lings and two spine crawlers. He just got overrun, and left the game as usual with no gg .
He did try to scout with an overlord, but it got killed pretty quick. And his scout zerglings were getting taken out too... Guess he took a gamble
His overlord scouted a pretty typical place to hide cheesy things on Crossfire, but instead of like a Dark Shrine or cloaked Banshees or something being there there were Marines. And so he saw nothing. It sucked.
On May 17 2012 11:48 Hypertension wrote: I am here for the drama.
GeeGee!!!
Honestly, I just watched this for the Idra game. Every time he plays its so dramatic and entertaining. You'll probably see viewer numbers drop when he's gone
On May 17 2012 11:47 Dexington wrote: Yeah, that was the one pretty much guaranteed outcomes from this clan war.
Makes no sense? The two best EG players are up next? Why would IdrA lose and leaving them 1-1 with 2 Koreans to go mean anything one way or another.
edit:
Whiterabbit's explanation makes a bit of sense.
Yeah, sorry, didn't think people wouldn't understand what I said. Idra losing to STX was one of the only results of the 4 matches I was positive would happen.
On May 16 2012 21:28 ibo422 wrote: Puma and Hwangsin should take their matches. The other 2 matches can go either way. 3-1 EG or 3-2 EG with Puma > Hwangsin in the ace match.
On May 17 2012 23:47 Dexington wrote: People keep bringing up that cross server game against an MVP who was in rehab for his wrist.
yeah, some people think cross server is an excuse, but TSL3 showed how biased it is (as much as i love TL, one of the most illegitimate big tournaments...EVER.)
I have a feeling no matter how balanced the game was, he would find something to complain about. He has a horrible attitude and no matter what he does in life, he wont get far acting like he does.
On May 18 2012 02:05 Apollo_Shards wrote: I have a feeling no matter how balanced the game was, he would find something to complain about. He has a horrible attitude and no matter what he does in life, he wont get far acting like he does.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
On May 18 2012 02:05 Apollo_Shards wrote: I have a feeling no matter how balanced the game was, he would find something to complain about. He has a horrible attitude and no matter what he does in life, he wont get far acting like he does.
Holy heck, just saw your signature.. <3
Thank you for carrying me in the 3v3s and updating your tumblr often <3
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players
I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players
I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose
is this good?
i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players
I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
Stephano Nerchio Ret DIMAGA Sheth TLO
Only mentioning a couple of Foreign Zergs with better results than IdrA....there are likely to be more.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players
I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose
is this good?
i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA.
He actually has a positive record against foreigners if you include the most evil genius tournament and the mlg qualifier.
I'm not saying IdrA is still among the top 5 foreigners and i would definitely say he is in a slump. But his records are misleading and people should maybe get off of his back a little.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
Ok, those Iron Squid games were OLD. Almost 2 months old. And you know what MVP was doing then? Resting his wrists. He wasnt even practicing. Not to mention, they were played cross server.
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players
I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose
is this good?
i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA.
He actually has a positive record against foreigners if you include the most evil genius tournament and the mlg qualifier.
I'm not saying IdrA is still among the top 5 foreigners and i would definitely say he is in a slump. But his records are misleading and people should maybe get off of his back a little.
IdrA's record against only foreigner players(including mlg qualifiers/the most evil genius ): 26 win 27
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:46 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:42 Catatonic wrote:
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
I didn't say he only lost against top top players. But his records are fu**ed by his matches against the very top of the top He is also: 2-0 MVP 2-1 Thorzain 2-1 Supernova 2-1 Min 2-0 Sleep 3-1 Huk 2-0 Jinro 2-1 Inori And other wins against lesser players
I don't really see a lot of foreigners doing better than him in those conditions.
IdrA's record against only foreigner players: 11 win 21 lose
is this good?
i can list you 20 players and all of them have better record than IdrA.
He actually has a positive record against foreigners if you include the most evil genius tournament and the mlg qualifier.
I'm not saying IdrA is still among the top 5 foreigners and i would definitely say he is in a slump. But his records are misleading and people should maybe get off of his back a little.
His records are so bad this year that I see it impossible for it to be misleading. It is very difficult to fudge those numbers to make it seem like he is doing anywhere near well.
On May 17 2012 09:50 kop977 wrote: Demuslim>Ostojiy IdrA<STX JYP<Hwangsin Puma>tgun
I would guess that it would be Hwangsin vs. Puma in the ace but idk, if that is the case, I think the game could go either way. Put a gun to my head, I would go with Puma. EG Fighting 3-2!
On May 17 2012 09:50 kop977 wrote: Demuslim>Ostojiy IdrA<STX JYP<Hwangsin Puma>tgun
I would guess that it would be Hwangsin vs. Puma in the ace but idk, if that is the case, I think the game could go either way. Put a gun to my head, I would go with Puma. EG Fighting 3-2!
On May 17 2012 21:22 mrgauva wrote: lol, Idra is so bad nowaday ... cant remember when is the last time he win )
Outside of beating MVP in the Iron Squid?
did IdrA pass group stages at IronSquid?
Kinda hard when you have MVP, MC, Symbol, and Thorzain all in your group though he can in third in the group ahead of both MVP and Thorzain
so he didnt pass group stages, what is the point for saying "beating mvp in the ironsquid"?
Because he did beat MVP? And Thorzain. He lost to MC who just doesn't lose PvZ and to Symbol who rolled Nestea at Ironsquid. That tournament was still relevant in the fact that IdrA can still take games of great players.
On May 18 2012 01:08 Naquilloo wrote: idra so bad.,
Mhm winning and IEM and Asuz RoG at the end of 2011 means you're bad
achivements from 6 months ago?
IdrA isnt even top 20 foreigner in 2012.
Well that's really hard to say considering the difference in level between the guys IdrA has to play and those most of the foreigners do. IdrA has shitty results in 2012 mostly against players who would roll pretty much every other foreigner (Hero,Alicia,DRG,Bomber,jjakji,mma,mc,byun,...).
What's become clearer however is that he's got farther away from the very top.
Every single professional player of note has at some point beaten a top player in an online tournament. It means nothing at all when you're losing 70% of your other games
Players should be judged on their average level not on one off results.
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. Was looking forward to seeing how that goes. EG to win, either barely on the strength of their Koreans 3-2, or 3-1.
