[Day 2] MLG Pro Circuit Winter Championship - Page 8

Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!

Kuror

United States399 Posts

March 24 2012 15:05 GMT

#141

On March 25 2012 00:04 CaM27 wrote:
Could anyone paste the link to twitch tv for mlg ?

twitch.tv/mlgstarcrafta
twitch.tv/mlgstarcraftb

RageBot

Israel1530 Posts

March 24 2012 15:05 GMT

#142

nvm.

Gumbotwins

Netherlands256 Posts

March 24 2012 15:05 GMT

#143

Ah ok thx :D,

just black atm yeah, probably soon will start!

drew-chan

Malaysia1517 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#144

Which streams are available for free users?

BlindSight754

Canada156 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#145

The two gold/premium streams are up

Chroncelot

Canada64 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#146

On March 25 2012 00:04 CaM27 wrote:
Could anyone paste the link to twitch tv for mlg ?

http://www.twitch.tv/mlgstarcrafta

http://www.twitch.tv/mlgstarcraftb

Whatson

United States5357 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#147

On March 25 2012 00:06 drew-chan wrote:
Which streams are available for free users?

They're all off-line right now.

Darpa

Canada4413 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#148

Anyone have an Idea as to why I cant put the streams in the low bottom bar (in quad view) to low quality? for some reason only the one on the left can and the other two are stuck at high or ultra (no low option). I just want the main high quality and the other two low so they dont eat a ton of bandwidth. Any suggestions on how to fix?

Xcobidoo

Sweden1871 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#149

So is anyone not going to watch Jinro vs Greg?

Ok it seems to be on the Premium stream, so I guess not that many...

geokilla

Canada8246 Posts

March 24 2012 15:06 GMT

#150

I see only black screen...

CaM27

Belgium392 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#151

On March 25 2012 00:05 Kuror wrote:

Show nested quote +

twitch.tv/mlgstarcrafta
twitch.tv/mlgstarcraftb

Thank you

Jiddra

Sweden2685 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#152

On March 25 2012 00:06 drew-chan wrote:
Which streams are available for free users?

C and A1

scDeluX

Canada1341 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#153

Can't wait for Idra vs Jinro. Revenge of the gracket !

NexUmbra

Scotland3776 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#154

On March 25 2012 00:05 Gumbotwins wrote:
Ah ok thx :D,

just black atm yeah, probably soon will start!

It is the two paid streams which are on right now, the two free streams are on in 2 hours.

TrevaH

Canada122 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#155

ooo go to A2 IDRA VS JINRO ON A2 GET YOUR GOLD OMGGGG

drew-chan

Malaysia1517 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#156

On March 25 2012 00:07 Jiddra wrote:

Show nested quote +

C and A1

Thanks!

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#157

On March 25 2012 00:06 Xcobidoo wrote:
So is anyone not going to watch Jinro vs Greg?

Ok it seems to be on the Premium stream, so I guess not that many...

sure you don't mean Grack?

ceaRshaf

Romania4926 Posts

March 24 2012 15:07 GMT

#158

On March 24 2012 23:53 0ne wrote:

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On March 24 2012 22:28 Azarkon wrote:
Doom and gloom post inc.

A poster said in the previous thread that Western players need to step it up.

I'm starting to think that's never going to happen. It's been 1.5 years, and the best the foreigner scene has produced is Stephano and while he's gotten to the level of Polt, he's not going to be able to get further since he's quitting this year because he can't see himself making enough money.

Going forward, OGN getting into SC 2 is going to bring on a fiercer level of competition in Korea. After the next OSL in March, BW pros are going to see the writing on the wall and they're going to have to switch. When that happens, Korean SC 2 is going to become even better.

In the foreigner's scene? Well, you can see the writing on the wall here, too. Teams are replacing their rosters with Koreans. Koreans are winning every tournament except those that a few special Westerners manage to win. Foreigners training in Korea aren't experiencing the success that people thought they would.

The going is tough and getting tougher, and I don't see any hope of the foreigner's scene coming to its own.

I would agree with you for NA players. The EU players are not that far behind though.

They're pretty much the same as guys like Sheth, Idra, Incontrol and Demuslim (NA based). USA might lack depth but their top players are basically the same as top EU players sans Stephano.

Nah. Barring HuK and perhaps Sheth the top EU players are on another level compared to the top NA players. And then there's Stephano who's in a league of his own among the foreigners atm.

Idra has won more significant tournaments than any EU players except Stephano. He's been crappy in 2012 but it's way too early to write him off because Idra has always done this.

It's not like Thorzain, Sase, White Ra, Morrow and other top Europeans have had good 2012's either.

IdrA has been shit in the past as well. It wasn't until he was about 2 years in estro/cj that he started to take off. This should be nothing new if you know Greg.

I always write him off because I know him. I'm always surprised when he actually manages to win something. Give the guy enough chances at kicking the can and eventually they'll get lucky. In terms of consistency, there's a trend with Greg. On a regular basis, he finishes near the top of all the foreigners. That's a pretty good trend to have, but still falls under the close but no cigar category.

Besides that, let's only focus on the here and now because that's the only thing that's relevant. I've seen nothing from Greg that tells me he's about to break out of his funk.

As for those other Europeans. I'd write them all off as well. They simply aren't living up to my expectations in terms of what they're capable of.

idra has never really performed when koreans were present, the exception being iem when he beat puma, other than that he gets trashed, all his mlg and ipl wins have come against na part timers

...What about Revival? Boxer? Hungon? Bomber? Artist? Supernova?

He barely beat boxer.

It's kinda hard to have a clean win when are you are being cheesed every single game and he still beat him so i don't understand what's your point.

Clever all ins =/= bad player.

A win over someone is not a black or white statement about skill. The last game he beat boxer was boxers to win if he would have stopped 10 seconds from attacking spine crawlers with hellions and roast all of idras drones. GG, 4-3 for boxer. idra got outplayed and metagamed a lot that series and was one small mistake that costed boxer the game.

Now if idra was consistent in beating koreans than yes, wins would matter. But some spikes of skill.....neah.