On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
Dubstep is a genre of electronic music. A lot of it sucks like metal, but some of it goes well with electro house sets even though electro is typically at 128 BPM and dubstep is at 140 BPM. Go to a rave or club and hear it on big speakers, you won't get it until you do it, you hear bass so loud it physically forces you to dance.
But that's just the opinion of an electro/trance DJ. I personally don't get most of it like a lot of the Deadmau5/Skrillex hipster brand of EDM, but there is good dubstep out there.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
Not a big fan of dubstep, but what you're saying is beyond retarded. :/
Basically the greatest halo game ever just happend so they went insane.
In Reach? I find that hard to believe.
Same here >_> Still hope Halo does well this MLG though, not really a fan but would be sad to see it die
Yeah.
But it was a pretty sick game I'm not gonna lie. I stopped watching Halo a while ago (Reach is terrible) but well when you're down 49-45 and suddenly you kill the entire team to tie it at 49-49, the crowd goes insane. Hasn't been a game that good since early H3.
Well it was also the biggest team in Halo against a team people have been hyping to win this event putting on 5 close games so at the end the crowd was going to go nuts.
That too, Instinct has a ton of fans. But I think the crowd would've gone nuts regardless of it being Instinct or not.
Haven't watched Halo in a while (yeah Reach does suck) but that sounds insane. Especially been disconnected to it cause I haven't really paid attention since the H3 days. Still a big fan of pistola though (have been since before he broke out with TD in H3). Hope he does well. If Reach dies after this MLG season I hope they'll pick up Halo 4 anyway, from what I've heard from my friends in the scene 343 has done good things with Reach (allowing removal of bloom, etc.) so I think they could do an even better job with it than Bungie.
Yeah I've been pulled away from SC2 for a bit to watch the series so that says something. But if the Halo crowd keeps this up it'll start rivaling the SC2 crowd in intensity and it won't be dropped until 4 comes out.
I just hope H4 is like the originals, not Reach.
What changed in Halo: Reach? I don't know anything about it, but I find it hard to believe a console FPS game can change all that much.
Halo:Reach absolutely blows balls. Hardly takes any skill compared to the former Halos. Halo 1 took so much skill to play at a high level same with Halo 2. Just compare Halo 2 to Reach and its like BW against a worse SC2.
How can anyone take e-sports on a console seriously? It's just wrong to determine the best players in a game using a gamepad. A good player with mouse + keyboard could probably win easily vs. the best player with gamepad. Especially in fps games. But maybe that's just my german prejudice. I think we are one of the last major games markets where there are still more people playing on PC than on all consoles combined and we curse the americans for their console usage, since that means that the technology of games does stagnate completely... My poor PC just can easily handle all new games, despite being 5 years old. That just feels wrong :D
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
On March 25 2012 10:33 ampson wrote: The KoF crowd sucks. Almost no cheers/applause for the winner.
I've caught a bit of the stream over the past few days... there's like 10 people in the crowd isn't it?
Its because a lot of the FGC is watching the other major tournament that just happend to be going on this weekend.
i think its because mlg picked up the 3 of the less popular fighter titles. kof, sc5, mk9?? really? so bad.
what titles do you want them to get? Capcom is fucking dumb and wont let mlg use their games.
that is my point, they could only get those 3 titles, if it was capcom games, i think they would have had more of a crowd. although i dont know how much of the fgc would have showed up still. NCR is just a bigger tournament than MLG at this point.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
Not a big fan of dubstep, but what you're saying is beyond retarded. :/
really? cause no one in my country likes it. Only the kids. if you think its good, go ahead, but it is the internet. I am free to what I say, at least I didn't say the N word.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
Yes they do because, shockingly, some people have different tastes in music and other arts than others.
Pretty weird, I know.
That's why MLG should go with a sort of music that is generally more acceptable. Pretty much everyone like alternative and rock. Dubstep however, is annoying to some.
thats why they also have their uninspired guitar riffs, because everyone loves those, right?
That's not the point I'm trying to make, my poin is that they should go with something more generally popular. Alternative, or soft rock.
doesnt matter what's more popular if they have to pay royalty.
They're playing this dubstep because the producers are paying them for it? is that what you're saying?
royalty free means they don't have to pay for it, if mlg wants to use songs from singers they have to pay for it. Basically all this dumbstep is free of charge. So they can use it without paying the producers.
That's not really true, IP law prohibits use of the majority of popular dubstep to be used for monetary gain, but because it is a popular genre many newer musicians and composers will allow outside sources to use their material for promotion, typically those who haven't been contracted by a label.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
24 years old, and I listen to everything from Rock, to House, to Thrash Metal, to Blues to Classical.
I don't listen to Pop, Country or Hip Hop, but they don't make me flinch and grit my teeth the way dubstep does.
I cannot find anything redeeming about it, and whats funny is that no one can actually explain to me WHY dubstep is good, all I've ever heard is "dude the bass is sick" or "this shit is just awesome" or "how can you not like this."
Nothing specific, because dubstep isn't something artistically put together as it is just bass and treble thrown together to be as loud and obnoxious as possible.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids.
Well then you just proved my point! :D
If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point!
On March 25 2012 10:33 ampson wrote: The KoF crowd sucks. Almost no cheers/applause for the winner.
I've caught a bit of the stream over the past few days... there's like 10 people in the crowd isn't it?
Its because a lot of the FGC is watching the other major tournament that just happend to be going on this weekend.
i think its because mlg picked up the 3 of the less popular fighter titles. kof, sc5, mk9?? really? so bad.
what titles do you want them to get? Capcom is fucking dumb and wont let mlg use their games.
that is my point, they could only get those 3 titles, if it was capcom games, i think they would have had more of a crowd. although i dont know how much of the fgc would have showed up still. NCR is just a bigger tournament than MLG at this point.
I would be excited for a monster hunter game though. Maybe a time battle where they have to hunt a monster. Pretty tactical and strategy based.
On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote: okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying.
I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise.
Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music.
I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it.
Not a big fan of dubstep, but what you're saying is beyond retarded. :/
really? cause no one in my country likes it. Only the kids. if you think its good, go ahead, but it is the internet. I am free to what I say, at least I didn't say the N word.
Music is what the one listening calls music. Birds singing could be music to some. It's not for anyone to decide. or make any General statements about anyone type of music. If you're reasonable.
On March 25 2012 10:11 DystopiaX wrote: [quote] Haven't watched Halo in a while (yeah Reach does suck) but that sounds insane. Especially been disconnected to it cause I haven't really paid attention since the H3 days. Still a big fan of pistola though (have been since before he broke out with TD in H3). Hope he does well. If Reach dies after this MLG season I hope they'll pick up Halo 4 anyway, from what I've heard from my friends in the scene 343 has done good things with Reach (allowing removal of bloom, etc.) so I think they could do an even better job with it than Bungie.
Yeah I've been pulled away from SC2 for a bit to watch the series so that says something. But if the Halo crowd keeps this up it'll start rivaling the SC2 crowd in intensity and it won't be dropped until 4 comes out.
I just hope H4 is like the originals, not Reach.
What changed in Halo: Reach? I don't know anything about it, but I find it hard to believe a console FPS game can change all that much.
Bloom, equipment, no BR, etc. Not to mention the maps Bungie made were pretty bad.
It just wasnt fun at all. It was boring, especially the maps.
What's Bloom?
In FPS games you have the target built in, well with bloom there is a circle that expands when you move or shoot, meaning your accuracy goes down. So if you shoot you have to wait for your circle to get small again to shoot or you'll miss.
Works in Shadowrun, but not Halo.
That's not bloom, that's a dynamic crosshair... and that's in every FPS game that's good, other than Quake.
Bloom is with the graphics, it created a little outer flow around models that softens the outside.
Only with Halo it was set up in such a way that if you ignored bloom and just shot as fast as you could you could win against the player who was theoretically shooting right. Not to mention that the randomness made the shooting feel bad, like you should have hit someone and that didn't happen. It reminded me a lot of shooter-RPGs that have dice rolls for accuracy, only you don't want that with Halo.
MLG settings now have bloom turned off (one of the things 343 did right), so we'll see. Still haven't returned to it though.
old halo 1 map DLC replacing shitty Reach maps help too.
Pretty sure that magnetic targetting carried over from H3 IIRC. That was one of the dumbest things they ever put in the game. Completely crippling game-skill.
No auto-aim in console FPS = terrible games.
You'd have terrible accuracy without it cause it's on a controller.
No it isn't. I guess you've never played H1 or H2. It actually took practice and skill to shoot accurate. Getting 4shots consistently used to be a mark of a great player, now any schmoe can do it. (At least in H3) It was a complete and utter joke, especially removing BxR and all the other skill ceiling activities.
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It's just wrong to determine the best players in a game using a gamepad. A good player with mouse + keyboard could probably win easily vs. the best player with gamepad. Especially in fps games. But maybe that's just my german prejudice. I think we are one of the last major games markets where there are still more people playing on PC than on all consoles combined and we curse the americans for their console usage, since that means that the technology of games does stagnate completely... My poor PC just can easily handle all new games, despite being 5 years old. That just feels wrong :D
