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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6161
I'm loving how he dodges storms then run back into them haha
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6162
On March 25 2012 07:58 Sea_aeS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 07:51 Azarkon wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:48 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:46 MooMu wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:43 TrevaH wrote:
Inori and Stephano 1-1 and Polt vs Morrow 1-1

2 fan fav's favored to win the whole thing facing elimination in round 8 of 9 lower bracket rounds before even reaching the Champ bracket let alone the end of Saturday


Favoured because they're fan favourites. In reality? This is no upset.


It is an upset. Everyone saying otherwise doesn't follow the scene. Put HuK into the open bracket and not into the group of luck and lets see if the all praised player can be top 6 as well. Its just blatant bullshit to call Stephano hyped now, because he lost 2 series in total, to Polt / Inori.


Stephano was over hyped prior to this MLG because Wheat and Scoots called for him to win the entirety of MLG from the OB. Even as a person who really enjoys Stephano's play and thinks that he is the best foreigner, there is no way that wasn't over-hyping. The moment they said it, I knew and feared that Stephano was going to get demolished, and really he did - he lost to the first good Terran he came across and the first good Protoss he came across. It's just two matches, and it is an upset. But that's because the hype train was running way too fast.


And i would like to know how was is frame of mind for this competition. I heard his manager saying "anyway there s no chance to win this when you come from the bracket" so dunno.... But i may be biased :D


Some people focus way too much on results.... Just look at Stephano vs Polt. Those were some of the best ZvT games since... Lonestar. Stephano has the best macro, gas timing, map awareness, drone timing and lategame control/management of any foreigner zerg and most zergs period. His zvt still needs to be tested against true S-Class terrans and his ZvP as well, but the seeds of greatness are there. He also has a penchant for sick comebacks.

When Leenock went on his legendary MLG run his opponents in the open bracket were incredibly easy compared to the open bracket today. How unlucky was it for Stephano to hit Polt, who's been practicing his PvStephno match up like crazy. He lost a close series and got metagamed. Stephano had a winning record coming into his match vs Inori. We don't know how those games went either, did either of them cheese? Did Inori win with a macro game? Were they razor close games or walk overs?

Lastly, bo3's don't determine skill level. If someone wins a Bo3 series you say they played better that series. Even if Stephano had WON this MLG and beat DRG on his way to his championship you would say that Stephano was on a hot run, and that even though he had beaten DRG it doesn't mean his zvz, zvt or zvp is better...
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6163
Rain is running back into storms... >.<
Serotonin1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States225 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6164
Cue the Terran qq over storms even though Thorazain has been eating Protoss with ghosts all day.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6165
GG! Great game! :D
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6166
So many Storms!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6167
He was still leading in supply though...
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 23:11:49
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6168
On March 25 2012 08:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
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On March 25 2012 08:01 bikefrog wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:57 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:53 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:50 mango_destroyer wrote:
wow stephano.....his unbeatable aura has been wore off this tournament.


Only foreigners considered stephano unbeatable. There's a reason he normally avoids the tourneys with most koreans in it. It's easier for him and helps his rep. Beating grubby and whitera 15 times all day does not mean he has unbeatable zvp. Stephano is good and probably best foreigner, but he's no where close to the level of hype he's built himself by playing against inferior competition mostly.

This pretty much sums up my opinion on Stephano perfectly.... Guy is obviously good, but people hyping him up as best ZvP in the world, code S etc. is just silly..... the hardest opponent he has beaten for his championships is polt. Now Polt is good too, but he's just another GSL average Terran imo...

He's also beaten MKP, DRG and so many more. He has the best winrate against top Koreans by far among the foreigners. The hype is there for a reason.


Saying he has wins over MKP and DRG ismisleading considering they were in BO1's and took place a while ago (Blizzard Cup, correct me if I'm wrong?).

DRG was blizz cup. Marineking was a bo3 at the ESWC which was in like november i think
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Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6169
i wonder if rain knows that storms do damage over time, not just the initial hit.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6170
Parting pretty good.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ale_jrb
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom72 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6171
Wow, what an awful match lol.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6172
who the fuk is Yata...
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6173
Crazymoving going for a basetrade? I don't think he's going to win, considering MC has a thousand cannons on his top right fourth.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6174
On March 25 2012 08:05 Quotidian wrote:
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On March 25 2012 08:04 Heimatloser wrote:
waoh what the heck is up with the free stream?
this feels like not even 150p.
dear mlg, you should have told me earlies how bad you free stream is to get me as a customer, but now i feel pretty fooled.



manually change the quality from low to mid

cannot change on medium. when i click on low the menu just disappears. maybe some firefox issues?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6175
God I fucking LOVE parting's PVT
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6176
Ha, MC warping in 6 archons at his 4th for the base defense against Ling/Hydra/Muta.
KT best KT ~ 2014
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6177
Storms are hard to deal with geez
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
March 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#6178
On March 25 2012 08:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:01 bikefrog wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:57 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:53 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:50 mango_destroyer wrote:
wow stephano.....his unbeatable aura has been wore off this tournament.


Only foreigners considered stephano unbeatable. There's a reason he normally avoids the tourneys with most koreans in it. It's easier for him and helps his rep. Beating grubby and whitera 15 times all day does not mean he has unbeatable zvp. Stephano is good and probably best foreigner, but he's no where close to the level of hype he's built himself by playing against inferior competition mostly.

This pretty much sums up my opinion on Stephano perfectly.... Guy is obviously good, but people hyping him up as best ZvP in the world, code S etc. is just silly..... the hardest opponent he has beaten for his championships is polt. Now Polt is good too, but he's just another GSL average Terran imo...

He's also beaten MKP, DRG and so many more. He has the best winrate against top Koreans by far among the foreigners. The hype is there for a reason.


Saying he has wins over MKP and DRG ismisleading considering they were in BO1's and took place a while ago (Blizzard Cup, correct me if I'm wrong?).

Yeah, you're wrong :p.
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 23:12 GMT
#6179
At this rate it looks like we're going to get PartinG vs Marineking in the winners bracket tomorrow. Gogo Marineking
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 24 2012 23:12 GMT
#6180
On March 25 2012 08:11 Serotonin1 wrote:
Cue the Terran qq over storms even though Thorazain has been eating Protoss with ghosts all day.


Not everyone can be EMP Jebus. Thorzain really has some of the sickest TvP lategame control.
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