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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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On March 25 2012 04:20 Hane wrote:
awful stream quality + lag = i will not watch anymore. It's a shame for e-sport ~
I have beautiful stream quality and no lag. Not a shame for e-sport ~?
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On March 25 2012 04:20 Fenrax wrote:
Stream is incredibly laggy for me. Is it my connection or the stream?
No problems here.
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On March 25 2012 04:20 Hane wrote:
awful stream quality + lag = i will not watch anymore. It's a shame for e-sport ~
I'm continously wondering if the complainers are actually watching the same stream as I am. I had some minor lag earlier, but that cleared up entirely, and medium quality is similar to the free stream of similar tourneys (NASL, GSL, IEM).
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On March 25 2012 04:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Have they seriously not had Tastosis do any casting yet today?
They did earlier today. So please calm down.
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On March 25 2012 04:20 darkscream wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 04:19 Fragile51 wrote:On March 25 2012 04:18 darkscream wrote:On March 25 2012 04:17 Probasaur wrote:
WHAT DID THAT SAY?!?! LMAO The casters!! DId you hear their reaction to reading that from Dustin Browder???
"Dustin Browder checking up on....... ahhuhhhhhhh...... ummmm..."
It said some new guy from complexity congrats to him for his new job we're sending him a pizza and a towel to clean himself up from being on his knees all day for koreans
WHAT 4chan /vg/ inside joke Sigh, 4chan being a bunch of morons again, whats new.. I wouldn't call 4chan the morons, they weren't the casters whose job it is to turn on DnD so thousands of viewers aren't exposed to random internet garbage.
Yeah won't somebody think of the children being 'exposed' to this!
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On March 25 2012 04:17 Falconblade wrote:
You can rewind MLG TV
Which stream, at what point in time?
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On March 25 2012 04:17 TaKemE wrote:Not sure if has been posted but here is what happend to Puma's first game (Aweful by Ostojiy imo): Show nested quote +Oottersareneat wrote on reddit:To just defend my player here, for a second:
A more accurate title would be "Ostojiy forces a forfeit in game one, and then all-ins Puma twice."
There's no doubt that Puma was late for his match - the venue is loud, he's a Korean player, and we had a little bit of trouble finding him and wrangling him. Ultimately, though, he showed up two minutes past the cut-off time. Two minutes.
Usually, MLG's somewhat flexible about tardiness, because they (like most of us) just want to see games played. In extreme cases, like with White-Ra in 2011, who was so far past the cut-off time, the MLG admins will enforce forfeits. But, generally, as long as both players want to play, MLG will let the match proceed normally.
Unfortunately, this wasn't the case with Ostojiy. According to one MLG admin, and I quote directly, he was "giggling with his teammates about the prospect of getting a free pass past a difficult match." The MLG admin also told me that he was "constantly asking other admins what the cut-off time was for a forfeit" and "bludgeoning them about it."
Of course I'm biased, but I don't find this to be particularly sportsmanlike. Those of you who watched the two games of the series that actually were played know that after Ostojiy got his way, and received a free map, he proceeded to all-in Puma twice (first with a roach-ling bust, and then with a ling-baneling all-in). The forfeited map, the games themselves, and Ostojiy's behavior prior to the forfeited map, all indicate to me that he was just looking to get the easiest win he could.
We're part of a community that is obsessive, in a good way, about manner and sportsmanship. The only other major example of an MLG forfeit is the aforementioned White-Ra incident, in which his opponent felt so bad about the fact that MLG had forced a forfeit that when the two players met again in the lower bracket, he gave away the first two maps, so that the extended series could be turned into a fairer, true best of three.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that sense of sportsmanship. It's a shame, because usually It's Gosu is a very mannered, sportsmanlike organization. I know that one of their primary executives, who manages the team, isn't at this MLG. Perhaps if he were in attendance, he would've prevented this.
Yes, if Puma hadn't been two minutes late, I guess we could've avoided this. So there's some fault to be pointed at EG, for sure. Does that make Ostojiy's behavior any better? I don't think so. I think it was unsportsmanlike, and I find it disappointing.
No worries, Demu will get revenge. Rest of the group will steamroll him so horrifically badly too. JYP vs Z. Good luck? Double team revenge.
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On March 25 2012 04:17 TaKemE wrote:Not sure if has been posted but here is what happend to Puma's first game (Aweful by Ostojiy imo): Show nested quote +Oottersareneat wrote on reddit:To just defend my player here, for a second:
A more accurate title would be "Ostojiy forces a forfeit in game one, and then all-ins Puma twice."
There's no doubt that Puma was late for his match - the venue is loud, he's a Korean player, and we had a little bit of trouble finding him and wrangling him. Ultimately, though, he showed up two minutes past the cut-off time. Two minutes.
Usually, MLG's somewhat flexible about tardiness, because they (like most of us) just want to see games played. In extreme cases, like with White-Ra in 2011, who was so far past the cut-off time, the MLG admins will enforce forfeits. But, generally, as long as both players want to play, MLG will let the match proceed normally.
Unfortunately, this wasn't the case with Ostojiy. According to one MLG admin, and I quote directly, he was "giggling with his teammates about the prospect of getting a free pass past a difficult match." The MLG admin also told me that he was "constantly asking other admins what the cut-off time was for a forfeit" and "bludgeoning them about it."
Of course I'm biased, but I don't find this to be particularly sportsmanlike. Those of you who watched the two games of the series that actually were played know that after Ostojiy got his way, and received a free map, he proceeded to all-in Puma twice (first with a roach-ling bust, and then with a ling-baneling all-in). The forfeited map, the games themselves, and Ostojiy's behavior prior to the forfeited map, all indicate to me that he was just looking to get the easiest win he could.
We're part of a community that is obsessive, in a good way, about manner and sportsmanship. The only other major example of an MLG forfeit is the aforementioned White-Ra incident, in which his opponent felt so bad about the fact that MLG had forced a forfeit that when the two players met again in the lower bracket, he gave away the first two maps, so that the extended series could be turned into a fairer, true best of three.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that sense of sportsmanship. It's a shame, because usually It's Gosu is a very mannered, sportsmanlike organization. I know that one of their primary executives, who manages the team, isn't at this MLG. Perhaps if he were in attendance, he would've prevented this.
Yes, if Puma hadn't been two minutes late, I guess we could've avoided this. So there's some fault to be pointed at EG, for sure. Does that make Ostojiy's behavior any better? I don't think so. I think it was unsportsmanlike, and I find it disappointing.
In all honesty, this information shouldn't even be public knowledge, it's embarrassing for MLG that one of their admins chose to speak poorly of a participating player to one of that player's managers.
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On March 25 2012 04:17 TaKemE wrote:Not sure if has been posted but here is what happend to Puma's first game (Aweful by Ostojiy imo): Show nested quote +Oottersareneat wrote on reddit:To just defend my player here, for a second:
A more accurate title would be "Ostojiy forces a forfeit in game one, and then all-ins Puma twice."
There's no doubt that Puma was late for his match - the venue is loud, he's a Korean player, and we had a little bit of trouble finding him and wrangling him. Ultimately, though, he showed up two minutes past the cut-off time. Two minutes.
Usually, MLG's somewhat flexible about tardiness, because they (like most of us) just want to see games played. In extreme cases, like with White-Ra in 2011, who was so far past the cut-off time, the MLG admins will enforce forfeits. But, generally, as long as both players want to play, MLG will let the match proceed normally.
Unfortunately, this wasn't the case with Ostojiy. According to one MLG admin, and I quote directly, he was "giggling with his teammates about the prospect of getting a free pass past a difficult match." The MLG admin also told me that he was "constantly asking other admins what the cut-off time was for a forfeit" and "bludgeoning them about it."
Of course I'm biased, but I don't find this to be particularly sportsmanlike. Those of you who watched the two games of the series that actually were played know that after Ostojiy got his way, and received a free map, he proceeded to all-in Puma twice (first with a roach-ling bust, and then with a ling-baneling all-in). The forfeited map, the games themselves, and Ostojiy's behavior prior to the forfeited map, all indicate to me that he was just looking to get the easiest win he could.
We're part of a community that is obsessive, in a good way, about manner and sportsmanship. The only other major example of an MLG forfeit is the aforementioned White-Ra incident, in which his opponent felt so bad about the fact that MLG had forced a forfeit that when the two players met again in the lower bracket, he gave away the first two maps, so that the extended series could be turned into a fairer, true best of three.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that sense of sportsmanship. It's a shame, because usually It's Gosu is a very mannered, sportsmanlike organization. I know that one of their primary executives, who manages the team, isn't at this MLG. Perhaps if he were in attendance, he would've prevented this.
Yes, if Puma hadn't been two minutes late, I guess we could've avoided this. So there's some fault to be pointed at EG, for sure. Does that make Ostojiy's behavior any better? I don't think so. I think it was unsportsmanlike, and I find it disappointing.
I am not sure if MLG has some responsibility for this as well. After-all, it isn't just puma forfeiting a match, STC as well. Probably should do something to help them.
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On March 25 2012 04:17 TaKemE wrote:Not sure if has been posted but here is what happend to Puma's first game (Aweful by Ostojiy imo): Show nested quote +Oottersareneat wrote on reddit:To just defend my player here, for a second:
A more accurate title would be "Ostojiy forces a forfeit in game one, and then all-ins Puma twice."
There's no doubt that Puma was late for his match - the venue is loud, he's a Korean player, and we had a little bit of trouble finding him and wrangling him. Ultimately, though, he showed up two minutes past the cut-off time. Two minutes.
Usually, MLG's somewhat flexible about tardiness, because they (like most of us) just want to see games played. In extreme cases, like with White-Ra in 2011, who was so far past the cut-off time, the MLG admins will enforce forfeits. But, generally, as long as both players want to play, MLG will let the match proceed normally.
Unfortunately, this wasn't the case with Ostojiy. According to one MLG admin, and I quote directly, he was "giggling with his teammates about the prospect of getting a free pass past a difficult match." The MLG admin also told me that he was "constantly asking other admins what the cut-off time was for a forfeit" and "bludgeoning them about it."
Of course I'm biased, but I don't find this to be particularly sportsmanlike. Those of you who watched the two games of the series that actually were played know that after Ostojiy got his way, and received a free map, he proceeded to all-in Puma twice (first with a roach-ling bust, and then with a ling-baneling all-in). The forfeited map, the games themselves, and Ostojiy's behavior prior to the forfeited map, all indicate to me that he was just looking to get the easiest win he could.
We're part of a community that is obsessive, in a good way, about manner and sportsmanship. The only other major example of an MLG forfeit is the aforementioned White-Ra incident, in which his opponent felt so bad about the fact that MLG had forced a forfeit that when the two players met again in the lower bracket, he gave away the first two maps, so that the extended series could be turned into a fairer, true best of three.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that sense of sportsmanship. It's a shame, because usually It's Gosu is a very mannered, sportsmanlike organization. I know that one of their primary executives, who manages the team, isn't at this MLG. Perhaps if he were in attendance, he would've prevented this.
Yes, if Puma hadn't been two minutes late, I guess we could've avoided this. So there's some fault to be pointed at EG, for sure. Does that make Ostojiy's behavior any better? I don't think so. I think it was unsportsmanlike, and I find it disappointing.
Uh what? How is this important or relevant? Alex Garfield just sounds mad his player lost due to a forfeit.
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Any other streams on? Just asking btw.
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There is TwitchTV stream for MLG? Can someone link? I am failing to find it. :/
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On March 25 2012 04:21 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 04:17 TaKemE wrote:Not sure if has been posted but here is what happend to Puma's first game (Aweful by Ostojiy imo): Oottersareneat wrote on reddit:To just defend my player here, for a second:
A more accurate title would be "Ostojiy forces a forfeit in game one, and then all-ins Puma twice."
There's no doubt that Puma was late for his match - the venue is loud, he's a Korean player, and we had a little bit of trouble finding him and wrangling him. Ultimately, though, he showed up two minutes past the cut-off time. Two minutes.
Usually, MLG's somewhat flexible about tardiness, because they (like most of us) just want to see games played. In extreme cases, like with White-Ra in 2011, who was so far past the cut-off time, the MLG admins will enforce forfeits. But, generally, as long as both players want to play, MLG will let the match proceed normally.
Unfortunately, this wasn't the case with Ostojiy. According to one MLG admin, and I quote directly, he was "giggling with his teammates about the prospect of getting a free pass past a difficult match." The MLG admin also told me that he was "constantly asking other admins what the cut-off time was for a forfeit" and "bludgeoning them about it."
Of course I'm biased, but I don't find this to be particularly sportsmanlike. Those of you who watched the two games of the series that actually were played know that after Ostojiy got his way, and received a free map, he proceeded to all-in Puma twice (first with a roach-ling bust, and then with a ling-baneling all-in). The forfeited map, the games themselves, and Ostojiy's behavior prior to the forfeited map, all indicate to me that he was just looking to get the easiest win he could.
We're part of a community that is obsessive, in a good way, about manner and sportsmanship. The only other major example of an MLG forfeit is the aforementioned White-Ra incident, in which his opponent felt so bad about the fact that MLG had forced a forfeit that when the two players met again in the lower bracket, he gave away the first two maps, so that the extended series could be turned into a fairer, true best of three.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that sense of sportsmanship. It's a shame, because usually It's Gosu is a very mannered, sportsmanlike organization. I know that one of their primary executives, who manages the team, isn't at this MLG. Perhaps if he were in attendance, he would've prevented this.
Yes, if Puma hadn't been two minutes late, I guess we could've avoided this. So there's some fault to be pointed at EG, for sure. Does that make Ostojiy's behavior any better? I don't think so. I think it was unsportsmanlike, and I find it disappointing. No worries, Demu will get revenge. Rest of the group will steamroll him so horrifically badly too. JYP vs Z. Good luck? Double team revenge.
Even though I always support zerg, thats just disgusting. geez I hope people crush him.
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Ostojiy would have all-ined 3 times if he hasn't got the forfeit. it's how he plays.
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It's called the foreigner effect.
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On March 25 2012 04:21 Xcobidoo wrote:Which stream, at what point in time?
All of them, all the time...click on the time bar at the bottom.
Shazam.
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On March 25 2012 04:21 GreyKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 04:17 TaKemE wrote:Not sure if has been posted but here is what happend to Puma's first game (Aweful by Ostojiy imo): Oottersareneat wrote on reddit:To just defend my player here, for a second:
A more accurate title would be "Ostojiy forces a forfeit in game one, and then all-ins Puma twice."
There's no doubt that Puma was late for his match - the venue is loud, he's a Korean player, and we had a little bit of trouble finding him and wrangling him. Ultimately, though, he showed up two minutes past the cut-off time. Two minutes.
Usually, MLG's somewhat flexible about tardiness, because they (like most of us) just want to see games played. In extreme cases, like with White-Ra in 2011, who was so far past the cut-off time, the MLG admins will enforce forfeits. But, generally, as long as both players want to play, MLG will let the match proceed normally.
Unfortunately, this wasn't the case with Ostojiy. According to one MLG admin, and I quote directly, he was "giggling with his teammates about the prospect of getting a free pass past a difficult match." The MLG admin also told me that he was "constantly asking other admins what the cut-off time was for a forfeit" and "bludgeoning them about it."
Of course I'm biased, but I don't find this to be particularly sportsmanlike. Those of you who watched the two games of the series that actually were played know that after Ostojiy got his way, and received a free map, he proceeded to all-in Puma twice (first with a roach-ling bust, and then with a ling-baneling all-in). The forfeited map, the games themselves, and Ostojiy's behavior prior to the forfeited map, all indicate to me that he was just looking to get the easiest win he could.
We're part of a community that is obsessive, in a good way, about manner and sportsmanship. The only other major example of an MLG forfeit is the aforementioned White-Ra incident, in which his opponent felt so bad about the fact that MLG had forced a forfeit that when the two players met again in the lower bracket, he gave away the first two maps, so that the extended series could be turned into a fairer, true best of three.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that sense of sportsmanship. It's a shame, because usually It's Gosu is a very mannered, sportsmanlike organization. I know that one of their primary executives, who manages the team, isn't at this MLG. Perhaps if he were in attendance, he would've prevented this.
Yes, if Puma hadn't been two minutes late, I guess we could've avoided this. So there's some fault to be pointed at EG, for sure. Does that make Ostojiy's behavior any better? I don't think so. I think it was unsportsmanlike, and I find it disappointing. Uh what? How is this important or relevant? Alex Garfield just sounds mad his player lost due to a forfeit.
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On March 25 2012 04:21 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 04:20 Hane wrote:
awful stream quality + lag = i will not watch anymore. It's a shame for e-sport ~ I'm continously wondering if the complainers are actually watching the same stream as I am. I had some minor lag earlier, but that cleared up entirely, and medium quality is similar to the free stream of similar tourneys (NASL, GSL, IEM).
I watch the stream in the TL sidebar.
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Huk is nowhere near as favoured as they're pretending.
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