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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:32:58
March 10 2012 14:32 GMT
#2121
On March 10 2012 23:31 Bidj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 23:24 GizmoPT wrote:
On March 10 2012 23:21 howLiN wrote:
On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.

But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD

But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons.

http://i.imgur.com/snazu.jpg

They're getting there. Slowly, because it's Blizzard, but I think they got the message.


problem is no one uses their websitel ol


This man has a point.
The difference with LoL is that LoL big tournaments' streams are embedded in the client, catching the attention of the casual players launching their game. Casual players rarely go on games' websites (apart for a certain category who do this at work... where they can not watch a stream, obviously).

I am probably wording this poorly, but if Blizzard would embed big tournaments' streams in their client, replacing this useless Tychus face, it would make a world of difference.

No streams on Riot's client, you can click a link and it opens an internet browser with the stream.

There's never been streams embedded in LoL client, why do people think so?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
March 10 2012 14:32 GMT
#2122
On March 10 2012 23:31 Bidj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 23:24 GizmoPT wrote:
On March 10 2012 23:21 howLiN wrote:
On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.

But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD

But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons.

http://i.imgur.com/snazu.jpg

They're getting there. Slowly, because it's Blizzard, but I think they got the message.


problem is no one uses their websitel ol


This man has a point.
The difference with LoL is that LoL big tournaments' streams are embedded in the client, catching the attention of the casual players launching their game. Casual players rarely go on games' websites (apart for a certain category who do this at work... where they can not watch a stream, obviously).

I am probably wording this poorly, but if Blizzard would embed big tournaments' streams in their client, replacing this useless Tychus face, it would make a world of difference.


That would be amazing honestly. However, we are talking about Blizzard here.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
VoO
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany278 Posts
March 10 2012 14:33 GMT
#2123
Issue:

Riot does everything for LoL and have absolute control over every aspect of the ESPORT.
Blizzard shits on StarCraft since it doesn't generate revenue after the initial purchase.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:35:45
March 10 2012 14:35 GMT
#2124
On March 10 2012 23:33 VoO wrote:
Issue:

Riot does everything for LoL and have absolute control over every aspect of the ESPORT.
Blizzard shits on StarCraft since it doesn't generate revenue after the initial purchase.

And I think they're being shortsighted with that. If Blizzard promoted SC2 tournaments far more actively, maybe even organizer practice tournaments and such regularly, it would make the game bigger and get far more new players interested in it as well.

Especially with the expansions incoming.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 10 2012 14:37 GMT
#2125
wp Feast, great tournament dude.
I had a good night of sleep.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:38:18
March 10 2012 14:38 GMT
#2126
edit: nvm |:
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
March 10 2012 14:38 GMT
#2127
On March 10 2012 23:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
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On March 10 2012 23:21 Micket wrote:
Does Riot actually make a ton of profit from LoL? They spent 5 million on prize money - if MLG can't make money off sc2, how the hell does Riot make money off LoL?


Micro... transactions. People pay money to Riot for various small stuff, so that's a source of income starcraft 2 does not provide. But of course, Riot might still be in the reds, haven't seen their numbers yet.


http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/07/2011-was-pc-gamings-biggest-ever-year-says-the-pc-gaming-alliance/
i just leave that here...
When in doubt, just drone up.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
March 10 2012 14:38 GMT
#2128
On March 10 2012 23:33 VoO wrote:
Issue:

Riot does everything for LoL and have absolute control over every aspect of the ESPORT.
Blizzard shits on StarCraft since it doesn't generate revenue after the initial purchase.


i always wondered, why Blizzard does not sell little cosmetic things in SC2, like portraits or Symbols. For the pros it does nothing and for a casual crowd it might be interesting and might generate some revenue.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
March 10 2012 14:47 GMT
#2129
LoL numbers are great, but people should also keep in mind how many people are at barcrafts watching. Take the latest MLG there were over 30 barcrafts with over 100 people at each. Combine that amount with the usual stream viewers and the numbers are probably closer.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 10 2012 14:48 GMT
#2130
On March 10 2012 23:38 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 23:33 VoO wrote:
Issue:

Riot does everything for LoL and have absolute control over every aspect of the ESPORT.
Blizzard shits on StarCraft since it doesn't generate revenue after the initial purchase.


i always wondered, why Blizzard does not sell little cosmetic things in SC2, like portraits or Symbols. For the pros it does nothing and for a casual crowd it might be interesting and might generate some revenue.


It is fairly shocking actually. They clearly have no qualms about selling both expensive cosmetic goods (mounts and pets) to people who already pay a subscription fee for WoW, as well as charging extortionate amounts for essential services such as server transfer that other companies will happily provide for free. Why exactly aren't they willing to sell purely cosmetic crap for SC2 I wonder?
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Shmohawk
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden21 Posts
March 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#2131
Blizzard should have kept all the multiplayer options free to play for sc2 and charge all other content, including custom games, replay's and statistics. Then they would get LoL numbers. If dota2 will be free to play, sc2 will fall way behind.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
March 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#2132
Cause its a bad thing and SC2 doesnt have heavy cost demands compared to WoW which needs new content added all the time. Micro transactions should stick with MMOs and stay there, thank god Blizzard is smart enough to not implement that to SC2.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
March 10 2012 14:51 GMT
#2133
Seeing how a simplified DOTA-clone where people go beating up AI units and using spells like it is WOW Arena can gather 3 times the SC2 viewership really show how badly SC2 is dying. Heck, LoL is even an older game and still it outlasted SC2. Blizzard seriously need to redesign especially Protoss for HotS to make the game watchable. Put the guy in charge of WoL Zerg design to redesign Protoss for HotS, and bring back Bill Roper.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#2134
I am watching the LoL stream and I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on...
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
March 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#2135
On March 10 2012 23:51 HowardRoark wrote:
Seeing how a simplified DOTA-clone where people go beating up AI units and using spells like it is WOW Arena can gather 3 times the SC2 viewership really show how badly SC2 is dying. Heck, LoL is even an older game and still it outlasted SC2. Blizzard seriously need to redesign especially Protoss for HotS to make the game watchable. Put the guy in charge of WoL Zerg design to redesign Protoss for HotS, and bring back Bill Roper.


No it doesn't fucking mean SC2 is dying, it means people like to watch LoL.

SC2 is doing fine.
Akiit
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway39 Posts
March 10 2012 14:54 GMT
#2136
On March 10 2012 23:53 Delicious Insanity wrote:
I am watching the LoL stream and I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on...


Same here it looks like they run around in circles and doing something ^^
Seohce
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 14:55:24
March 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#2137
On March 10 2012 23:47 magnaflow wrote:
LoL numbers are great, but people should also keep in mind how many people are at barcrafts watching. Take the latest MLG there were over 30 barcrafts with over 100 people at each. Combine that amount with the usual stream viewers and the numbers are probably closer.



There are approximately 190,000 people watching the LoL stream right now. I doubt Barcrafts can make up those numbers.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#2138
On March 10 2012 23:54 Akiit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 23:53 Delicious Insanity wrote:
I am watching the LoL stream and I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on...


Same here it looks like they run around in circles and doing something ^^


I'd imagine SC2 probably looks roughly the same from their point of view, but with more buildings ^.^
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 10 2012 14:56 GMT
#2139
On March 10 2012 23:54 Akiit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 23:53 Delicious Insanity wrote:
I am watching the LoL stream and I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on...


Same here it looks like they run around in circles and doing something ^^


Also, the particle effects are way to much.

Red line, green orb, orange explosion all at the same time.
The fuck is going on!? Lol.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 10 2012 14:56 GMT
#2140
congratz do the boss toss, another 1st place. That is great =D

also, 200k on lol stream. holy shit.
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