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On March 10 2012 23:15 Wegandi wrote:
How can people watch MOBA games. They are not spectator friendly, not to mention half the game is folks battling AI guys. Makes no sense.
How can people watch tennis, just 2 guys making the ball go back and forth?
How can people watch football, grown men running after a ball get paid millions for it?
How can people watch RTS, someone just cheeses and it's gg?
Wait I know, maybe because people like different things?
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On March 10 2012 23:16 PeggyHill wrote:Anyone going to give watching LoL a go? I've seen a bit of dota, I know that LoL is apparently dota for kids bt still gonna give it a go 
Not exactly dota for kids but it's still quite simplified. However with these teams this would be a great opportunity if it's your first time watching it - Both of the teams play a very entertaining style.
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Does Riot actually make a ton of profit from LoL? They spent 5 million on prize money - if MLG can't make money off sc2, how the hell does Riot make money off LoL?
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On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.
But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD
But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons.
http://i.imgur.com/snazu.jpg
They're getting there. Slowly, because it's Blizzard, but I think they got the message.
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On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.
But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD
But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons.
Yes, Battle Net sucks ass. It is very disappointing. The fact is Blizzard has become a bureaucratic nightmare. All firms when they reach certain sizes become inefficient behemoths. Hence, the fact that smaller companies are putting out much better products. This is one of the first understandings of the Socialist Calculation critique which applies equally to large firms. I'm perfectly fine with Blizzard dying off and new better competitors taking up the mantle. Such a shame though.
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On March 10 2012 23:15 Wegandi wrote:
How can people watch MOBA games. They are not spectator friendly, not to mention half the game is folks battling AI guys. Makes no sense.
IDK...You should ask the 150+ more viewers watching LOL. Makes no sense
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On March 10 2012 23:21 Micket wrote:
Does Riot actually make a ton of profit from LoL? They spent 5 million on prize money - if MLG can't make money off sc2, how the hell does Riot make money off LoL?
Micro... transactions. People pay money to Riot for various small stuff, so that's a source of income starcraft 2 does not provide. But of course, Riot might still be in the reds, haven't seen their numbers yet.
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On March 10 2012 23:01 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 22:22 Massing wrote:On March 10 2012 22:21 soulist wrote:
Not to trash talk on Germany but the crowd is not energetic at all. If it was MLG or Dreamhack the crowd would be going insane. Idk what's wrong over there. its a convention 90% who are sitting there never heard of starcraft or anything Not true - yes Cebit is worlds biggest electronic convention, but IEM has their own area and pretty sure you pay to get in there aswell. They were also tbh quite loud, but you couldn't really hear it - MLG and maybe dreamhack aswell has mics close to the crowd, if IEM does aswell they are far away or turned down quite a lot
No you don't pay anything extra to get into the IEM hall. It is just another like any other of the maybe 17-20 convention halls, just a totally different content. You come from silent halls with bright light and loads of guys in suits (40% of them being chinese nowadays) who present all kinds of E-commerce and ERP solutions etc. and then you just enter the next hall and everything is dark, loud and full of teenagers playing games and/or watching some big screens with stuff you don't understand as normal visitors. It'S one of the funniest thing at cebit to see the confusion on normal visitors faces when they watch the IEM screens, attracted by the crowd, but not getting what can possibly so important and interesting about what's happening on the screen.
Funniest thing for me this year was a young policemen who stood there at the sc2 stage and tried to explain his very attractive female colleague what was happening. Let's put it this way... It wasn't hard to realize that her enthusiasm was quite limited.
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On March 10 2012 23:21 Micket wrote:
Does Riot actually make a ton of profit from LoL? They spent 5 million on prize money - if MLG can't make money off sc2, how the hell does Riot make money off LoL?
"I found it interesting that there were two big acquisitions last Friday, of nearly equal size, that were covered very differently in the press. One was the acquisition of The Huffington Post by AOL for $315 million; the other was the acquisition of Riot Games by Chinese Internet company Tencent for just north of $400 million."
So a year ago they had earned 400mil from selling it and it's grown even more so I assume they're not in money problems with 5mil prizes.
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On March 10 2012 23:21 howLiN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.
But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD
But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons. http://i.imgur.com/snazu.jpgThey're getting there. Slowly, because it's Blizzard, but I think they got the message.
problem is no one uses their websitel ol
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On March 10 2012 23:21 Micket wrote:
Does Riot actually make a ton of profit from LoL? They spent 5 million on prize money - if MLG can't make money off sc2, how the hell does Riot make money off LoL?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/03/06/gdc-2012-pc-games-raked-in-18-6-billion-in-2011/
From this article:
Once full numbers are presented for 2011, it is expected that Tencent will have surpassed Activision Blizzard as the company that generates the most revenue from PC games.
So yes a ton of money. Maybe even more than SC2. Crazy
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On March 10 2012 23:24 GizmoPT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 23:21 howLiN wrote:On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.
But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD
But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons. http://i.imgur.com/snazu.jpgThey're getting there. Slowly, because it's Blizzard, but I think they got the message. problem is no one uses their websitel ol
While true, the people who don't already know about IEM are the ones who actually do use their website.
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How were the games? Should I voter watching when the Vods come out?
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Maybe? Definately. Question is has it surpassed WoW.
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On March 10 2012 23:27 daemir wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 23:25 gbooo wrote:On March 10 2012 23:21 Micket wrote:
Does Riot actually make a ton of profit from LoL? They spent 5 million on prize money - if MLG can't make money off sc2, how the hell does Riot make money off LoL? http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/03/06/gdc-2012-pc-games-raked-in-18-6-billion-in-2011/From this article: Once full numbers are presented for 2011, it is expected that Tencent will have surpassed Activision Blizzard as the company that generates the most revenue from PC games. So yes a ton of money. Maybe even more than SC2. Crazy Maybe? Definately. Question is has it surpassed WoW.
They have more active players than WoW but I doubt they make more money with it.
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On March 10 2012 22:53 Delicious Insanity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 22:52 ReDeYe wrote:On March 10 2012 22:51 SmoKim wrote:On March 10 2012 22:50 ReDeYe wrote:
Yes, I made a TL account, but I used to have one ages ago, can't remember email or pass lol... Great Job at IEM! Thanks! Are you the handsome Englishman in the suit?
lol I guess I am :p
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On March 10 2012 23:29 ReDeYe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 22:53 Delicious Insanity wrote:On March 10 2012 22:52 ReDeYe wrote:On March 10 2012 22:51 SmoKim wrote:On March 10 2012 22:50 ReDeYe wrote:
Yes, I made a TL account, but I used to have one ages ago, can't remember email or pass lol... Great Job at IEM! Thanks! Are you the handsome Englishman in the suit? lol I guess I am :p
Haha. Really enjoyed your casting!
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Congratulations to the ESL for their best run major event so far. In my 9(?) years of watching I have never seen an ESL event run so smoothly. They are visibly stepping it up this season and I hope they keep their standards next season and still try to improve everywhere they can. Yes, there were some bummers like the Kas rematch situation and the travel accomodation problem, but these issues are sometimes unavoidable (given the circumstances).
Of course it is sad to see SC2/RTS being kicked off the main stage after only one year. But it is good that it is not because SC2 is declining rapidly but because other titles attract numbers rarely seen before. As long as SC2 has a dedicated community that has fun playing and watching it, SC2 is there to stay.
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On March 10 2012 23:24 GizmoPT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 23:21 howLiN wrote:On March 10 2012 23:17 XiGua wrote:
About the "SC2 is dying"-post, I chose the wrong word.
But still, it angers me when I see no initiative from Blizzard trying to support my favourite game to the extent that it will surpass its competitors. Just some passive rage from me after seeing those stream numbers. XD
But yeah, SC2's community is the best and with it Starcraft surely will expand its horizons. http://i.imgur.com/snazu.jpgThey're getting there. Slowly, because it's Blizzard, but I think they got the message. problem is no one uses their websitel ol
This man has a point.
The difference with LoL is that LoL big tournaments' streams are embedded in the client, catching the attention of the casual players launching their game. Casual players rarely go on games' websites (apart for a certain category who do this at work... where they can not watch a stream, obviously).
I am probably wording this poorly, but if Blizzard would embed big tournaments' streams in their client, replacing this useless Tychus face, it would make a world of difference.
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On March 10 2012 23:29 ReDeYe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 22:53 Delicious Insanity wrote:On March 10 2012 22:52 ReDeYe wrote:On March 10 2012 22:51 SmoKim wrote:On March 10 2012 22:50 ReDeYe wrote:
Yes, I made a TL account, but I used to have one ages ago, can't remember email or pass lol... Great Job at IEM! Thanks! Are you the handsome Englishman in the suit? lol I guess I am :p
Is there such a thing like a handsome englishmean in a suit? :D I thought they all had shaved heads and wore tracksuit pants... But maybe that's just up north 
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