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On March 07 2012 20:13 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:12 kusto wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. You must be a hardcore Idra fan. Don't know what to say to this lol. How does this make me an Idra fan? Stephano's vP is literally him massing roaches and holding off every 2 base all-in possible. I'm pretty sure there is more to it then that lol It's can't be anything other than decision making. I think he just has excellent fucking decision making. And he binds his fucking eggs, I don't know why other people don't bind their fucking eggs.
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On March 07 2012 20:14 ceaRshaf wrote: I really want idra to lose. I want him to lose until every other person loses hope that he is a good player because he is not. He has so much hype and so few results. So GOGO idra, 0-5. YOU CAN DO IT!
that's pretty mean of you
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On March 07 2012 20:11 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:10 Leetley wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. It's his superior game sense and strong mechanics. I'm not going to lie, but I don't think Stephano's mechanics are that much better than any other top tier foreigner. For some reason he just holds shit off though. I said that his mechanics are strong and solid, not overwhelming. His better play is not a matter of magic, but mix of abilities that make you good in this game.
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On March 07 2012 20:13 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:10 RJGooner wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 bluQ wrote:On March 07 2012 20:05 zul wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 bluQ wrote: So funny ... Darkforce 2-0 real and idra 0-2 feast. Sup Idra? if you want to compare scores, don`t take different players. IdrA also played versus real and lost 0:2 Woopsie ... forgot to include that xD Makes my statement look kinda dumb, and yea it was 2-1 ... anyways in the heat i was too fast. But guess u guys got my point  A good german Z wins vs toss and yet the "best" US zerg loses hard. We'll see who wins DarkForce vs IdrA Im more interested in Real vs Idra  way better comparison between idra and some average good zerg in ZvP. But ... Idra will tilt vs Kas and then throw every game after that cause he is out allready.
So... both of them vs. another player is a better comparison than a head-to-head matchup? Really?
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On March 07 2012 20:11 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:10 Leetley wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. It's his superior game sense and strong mechanics. I'm not going to lie, but I don't think Stephano's mechanics are that much better than any other top tier foreigner. For some reason he just holds shit off though.
Download his replays. His mechanics are amasing never misses an inject never get supplied blocked and his APM and mutlitasking is insane. He are faster then most koreans
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On March 07 2012 20:08 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:06 Olinim wrote:On March 07 2012 20:04 Megabuster123 wrote: That Titan vs. Stephano game was like Stephano's first ZvP loss in forever. except if u count all the times he lost vs MC. unless u mean just foreigners, but then who cares lol. He was wasted in his games against MC (in HSC4) and did a all-in on Dual Sight in the Blizzard Cup. I hardly call that a good argument. So what's the lame excuse why he lost vs titan? Maybe had a bad itch?
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On March 07 2012 20:15 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:13 EleanorRIgby wrote:On March 07 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:12 kusto wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. You must be a hardcore Idra fan. Don't know what to say to this lol. How does this make me an Idra fan? Stephano's vP is literally him massing roaches and holding off every 2 base all-in possible. I'm pretty sure there is more to it then that lol It's can't be anything other than decision making. I think he just has excellent fucking decision making. And he binds his fucking eggs, I don't know why other people don't bind their fucking eggs.
yeah it frustrates me to no end seeing units idly pile up at a rally point instead of getting bound while they are still fucking eggs.
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On March 07 2012 20:10 Leetley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. It's his superior game sense and strong mechanics. I.e. he scouts the opponents gas (and nothing else) and drones to whatever amount he feels he can based on that. No wasted overlords, no 'stop droning because I don't know what's going on', just a strong safe (adaptable) build, executed well, that lets him come out ahead against almost anything.
To contrast, in those games (well G1) it seemed like Idra's biggest issue was that he absolutely wanted to know what the fuck was going on, even if he was going to do nothing about it. It's playing to survive instead of playing to win, and it won't win as consistently because of that.
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On March 07 2012 20:15 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:13 EleanorRIgby wrote:On March 07 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:12 kusto wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. You must be a hardcore Idra fan. Don't know what to say to this lol. How does this make me an Idra fan? Stephano's vP is literally him massing roaches and holding off every 2 base all-in possible. I'm pretty sure there is more to it then that lol It's can't be anything other than decision making. I think he just has excellent fucking decision making. And he binds his fucking eggs, I don't know why other people don't bind their fucking eggs.
And he avoids Korea like the plague. That helps
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On March 07 2012 20:15 Cereb wrote: And Incontrol ever said that Idra struggles alot vs Kas.
This is going to be a horrible tournament for this guy. Kas is playing kinda bad as of late though. I don't see him coming out of this group.
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On March 07 2012 20:12 dainbramage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:11 MVTaylor wrote:On March 07 2012 20:11 Seraphone wrote: That Reebok advert is so incredibly annoying. But the sport of fitness has arrived? I only get red bull and beer ads. Not counting the on-stream ones.
same, but guess we are from Australia and thats all we drink
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On March 07 2012 20:14 ceaRshaf wrote: I really want idra to lose. I want him to lose until every other person loses hope that he is a good player because he is not. He has so much hype and so few results. So GOGO idra, 0-5. YOU CAN DO IT!
That's pretty pathetic.
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On March 07 2012 20:13 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:11 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:10 Leetley wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. It's his superior game sense and strong mechanics. I'm not going to lie, but I don't think Stephano's mechanics are that much better than any other top tier foreigner. For some reason he just holds shit off though. Stephano's mechanics are much better than other top tier foreigners. He maxes out faster, he micros better, he engages better, he picks better positions, and he has better reads and better decision making. He's better; it's that simple. Compared to who? Top tier foreigners have similar mechanics to him. Stephano gets supply blocked all the time and he misses plenty of injects in the mid-late game. His fans deify him but he's not this immaculate god of a zerg player, he's just really fucking good.
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Dimagas allin in the begining costs him the game :S
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On March 07 2012 20:15 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:13 EleanorRIgby wrote:On March 07 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:12 kusto wrote:On March 07 2012 20:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game. You must be a hardcore Idra fan. Don't know what to say to this lol. How does this make me an Idra fan? Stephano's vP is literally him massing roaches and holding off every 2 base all-in possible. I'm pretty sure there is more to it then that lol It's can't be anything other than decision making. I think he just has excellent fucking decision making. And he binds his fucking eggs, I don't know why other people don't bind their fucking eggs. Binding your eggs don't give you a huge advantage. It's a matter of taste, just like Stephano himself has said.
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On March 07 2012 20:03 bluQ wrote: So funny ... Darkforce 2-0 real and idra 0-2 feast. Sup Idra? glad your insecurity could be soothed with the results. its not really surprising or funny, darkforce has been playing better than idra for a while
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Dimaga forget infestor energy?
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OMG I think those infestors of Dimaga popped out before the infestor energy upgrade :O
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On March 07 2012 20:15 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:08 Otolia wrote:On March 07 2012 20:06 Olinim wrote:On March 07 2012 20:04 Megabuster123 wrote: That Titan vs. Stephano game was like Stephano's first ZvP loss in forever. except if u count all the times he lost vs MC. unless u mean just foreigners, but then who cares lol. He was wasted in his games against MC (in HSC4) and did a all-in on Dual Sight in the Blizzard Cup. I hardly call that a good argument. So what's the lame excuse why he lost vs titan? Maybe had a bad itch? He lost because that immortal sentry stalker build is fucking good...>_>
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