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On March 07 2012 20:01 lorgoth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. After Idra game just watch some Stephano vs P and ull feel better
I fucking hate Stephano, so I definitely won't do that, unless the Protoss wins. I agree with Cereb though, Idra's ZvP is kinda depressing.
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Pandemona
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On March 07 2012 20:02 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:01 Pandemona wrote:On March 07 2012 19:59 Sc2Null wrote: nothing could be done against those blink stalkers without infestors...those blinks were just....dear god Maybe some Hydra though, the one time IdrA doesnt get his 60 drones and gets his Hydra Roach it hurts him! Hydra the only thing to kill Blink Stalkers. going hydras is really frustrating/bad imo. i'm by no means a good zerg but as soon as you're off creep, your hydra investment is useless unless you have such a HUGE advantage that you can walk to his base and it doesn't even matter... which would require some serious mistakes on the P's part. although maybe its more of a defensive opener, i guess.
Yes ofc they are bad off creep, but like you say for a Defenders advantage being on creep anyway its not entirely that bad, plus Darkforce beat real with 2x Roach Hydra timings. I do think there the only way to beat mass stalkers though.
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Well at least he will be able to leave the crappy hotel very fast.
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On March 07 2012 20:00 Maghetti wrote: That game was...kind of bullshit. Idra must be raging so hard from that build. It should not have worked and that is why it worked because no one would seriously go forge 4 gate into nexus so idra thought it was an allin and made nothing but units.
Trying to apply IdrA logic here *grabspopcorn*
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whos the guy next to Apollo...he looks so uninterested
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On March 07 2012 19:59 illsick wrote: feast is the real deal, damn
his builds are too meta for bitterdam lol
hah I agree, It looked terrible for a while but then it started to make sense and it turned out good oO, kept idra low on drones for like forever, not sure if idra handeled it wrong or feast just did something awesome, but definately worth learning more about :D crazy stuff, I've been travelling to much, need to sit down and play 250 ladder games ^_^
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Killer in a good position in game 2, except apparently despite having a 6k bank he's not added on additional gates? Well, even a 10 zealot reinforcement wave should be enough to mop up Puma this time.
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On March 07 2012 20:04 Megabuster123 wrote: That Titan vs. Stephano game was like Stephano's first ZvP loss in forever. except if you count his losses vs MC. unless u mean just foreigners, but then who cares lol.
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Idra going down against Kas for the trifecta?!?
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On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP?
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On March 07 2012 20:04 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:02 Notfragile wrote:On March 07 2012 19:59 Derity wrote: yay, Feast, well played Sir.
Grubby mentorship pays off :D Yeaaaaaaaaah right. The fact that Idra does not bother to l2p by watching some DRG/Stephano vods pays off. The way that guy thinks is beyond me. Watch how they who manage to do it do it, then do it yourself. And why must Grubby be in everything? Can someone explain why this guy is so important? Just a mediocre attention seeking ex wc3 pro. Really? That's an arrogant, stupid thing to say. What the fuck.
I agree. I hope he gets banned. That was so uncalled. Especially towards Grubby, whos always a nice guy.
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didn't QXC say the other day that feast was an up and comer and idra was the most overrated player ever? lol, funny how that game was basically a manifestation of his opinion
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On March 07 2012 20:06 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:04 Megabuster123 wrote: That Titan vs. Stephano game was like Stephano's first ZvP loss in forever. except if u count all the times he lost vs MC. unless u mean just foreigners, but then who cares lol. Apparently since his loss vs MC in the blizzard cup he hasn't lost to any protoss or some stupid statistic like that. Something like 30-something vP's. But yeah, I agree they're all foreign protoss.
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On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP?
He wins. I don't know if there is any other way to adequately describe it.
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if idra goes down against kas watch him forfeit his remaining matches and just fly home
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On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? Macros like a boss and max out at 12 min, then A moves and wins. Working strategy as proven by Stephano
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On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? Get a really high econ and keep toss low on bases is what i generally see from him. Making it imposible to trade efficient as a toss
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after the tweets from huk and idra i hope he wont win a bo3 xD
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On March 07 2012 20:05 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:02 Vei wrote:On March 07 2012 20:01 Pandemona wrote:On March 07 2012 19:59 Sc2Null wrote: nothing could be done against those blink stalkers without infestors...those blinks were just....dear god Maybe some Hydra though, the one time IdrA doesnt get his 60 drones and gets his Hydra Roach it hurts him! Hydra the only thing to kill Blink Stalkers. going hydras is really frustrating/bad imo. i'm by no means a good zerg but as soon as you're off creep, your hydra investment is useless unless you have such a HUGE advantage that you can walk to his base and it doesn't even matter... which would require some serious mistakes on the P's part. although maybe its more of a defensive opener, i guess. Yes ofc they are bad off creep, but like you say for a Defenders advantage being on creep anyway its not entirely that bad, plus Darkforce beat real with 2x Roach Hydra timings. I do think there the only way to beat mass stalkers though.
Exactly, iv seen good korean zergs destroy that immortal/gateway push with hydra/ling and couple spines
its all about knowing when to engage and flanking with lings so toss cant run from hydra dps
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On March 07 2012 20:06 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 20:03 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 07 2012 20:02 Thurken wrote:On March 07 2012 20:00 Cereb wrote: Watching Idra vs toss is always so depressing as a Zerg player. Try to watch Stephano vs toss and your mood will be way better  But all the tosses will want to hang themselves. How does stephano typically play ZvP? His vP doesn't make any sense, he just mass roaches basically but holds every all-in every game.
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