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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
March 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#1861
On March 06 2012 23:58 zocktol wrote:
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On March 06 2012 23:57 zefreak wrote:
MC has played macro games recently, some of you guys either don't follow the korean scene or have very short attention spans. He's not just a two base timing toss


Could you name the games, where he did not go for a heavy 2 base play?

In the case of this game is was behind from the beggining so he had to do sth to get back in the game (nerchio is not a scrub). I have to agree that he likes 2 base play, but considering his winrate at this I wonder why would he bither stopping....

Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
March 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#1862
On March 07 2012 00:02 Jayjay54 wrote:
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On March 06 2012 23:59 Ippo wrote:
fragster.de ‏ @fragsterde
Nach Regelwerkpunkt 3.18 ist die Minitabelle wichtiger bei Punktgleichheit als die Gesamttabelle. Socke ist nicht (!) ausgeschieden.
3:58 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web

basicly it says that socke is not out. ^^

holy shit. that would mean socke advances!


and that would be AWESOME, if it is according to the rules.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#1863
cute how they thought that nerchio can beat mc
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#1864
I think MC adheres by the philosophy of, "why go to a macro game, when you can kill him with an early/mid game timing attack?".

We know MC is capable of macro games, we've seen it at NASL season one and at IEM Cologne last year. Its just, after those tournaments it seems he has focused more on his timings and early game. I'm quite sure he is still capable of doing a long macro game, its just, almost no one has survived his early and mid game enough for his macro to surface again.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#1865
On March 07 2012 00:01 neoghaleon55 wrote:
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On March 06 2012 23:47 Heavenly wrote:
Big words from MC, doesn't lose to zerg anymore.



DRG: help me win the GSL and I'll show you how to never lose to zergs ever again...

MC:....deal.


Look at that game. We can understand why drg CRying abt ffs.
wktr
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden26 Posts
March 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#1866
does anyone know what's happening with Strelok vs MMA? been showing 1-0 to MMA for a long time now.
Prime Fighting!
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
March 06 2012 15:05 GMT
#1867
There are additional rules for the IEM World championship:

http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf

No mini-league for SC2 -> Socke is out!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 06 2012 15:05 GMT
#1868
We've seen it in GSL this season as well
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gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 15:06:00
March 06 2012 15:05 GMT
#1869
On March 07 2012 00:02 Malnor wrote:
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On March 06 2012 23:59 Ippo wrote:
fragster.de ‏ @fragsterde
Nach Regelwerkpunkt 3.18 ist die Minitabelle wichtiger bei Punktgleichheit als die Gesamttabelle. Socke ist nicht (!) ausgeschieden.
3:58 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web

basicly it says that socke is not out. ^^
Thanks for posting it here. For everyone else: http://gfx.esl-europe.net/gfx/media/masters/rulebook/Intel_Extreme_Masters_Season_VI_Rulebook.pdf this is the Rulebook. It states that Mini-League is more important than Overall Score.

this overrides general rules for WC event
http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf

sorry socke is out

(edit: too late ^_^)
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 06 2012 15:05 GMT
#1870
MC just does not lose to foreign zergs. he only lost 1 time in a LAN, to Sen. (I don't count vs idra since technically the series ended 2-4 :D)
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
March 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1871
On March 07 2012 00:04 wktr wrote:
does anyone know what's happening with Strelok vs MMA? been showing 1-0 to MMA for a long time now.


They probably didn't play the last game as it was unnecessary.
cyclone4tw
Profile Joined May 2008
Russian Federation32 Posts
March 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1872
On March 07 2012 00:05 KiNGxXx wrote:
There are additional rules for the IEM World championship:

http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf

No mini-league for SC2 -> Socke is out!


It's also in the ESL coverage that Socke is out: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/hanover/sc2/groupstage/#/masters/season6/hanover/news/187374/


[15:47] StarCraft Group A has finished. Koreans MMA, viOLet and JYP advance to the play-offs. German player Socke, who looked very strong in the beginning, just missed the play-offs by a bit.
Malnor
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany35 Posts
March 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1873
Okay, I gotta correct myself. ESL has implemented a Special Rulebook just for the IEM Finals. http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf
There the Scoring for each discipline is handled individually. In SC2 Overall Score counts. For LoL and CS the Mini-League is important. For all other Events, this rule was different, it was changed just for the World Finals.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1874
On March 07 2012 00:05 gwixter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 00:02 Malnor wrote:
On March 06 2012 23:59 Ippo wrote:
fragster.de ‏ @fragsterde
Nach Regelwerkpunkt 3.18 ist die Minitabelle wichtiger bei Punktgleichheit als die Gesamttabelle. Socke ist nicht (!) ausgeschieden.
3:58 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web

basicly it says that socke is not out. ^^
Thanks for posting it here. For everyone else: http://gfx.esl-europe.net/gfx/media/masters/rulebook/Intel_Extreme_Masters_Season_VI_Rulebook.pdf this is the Rulebook. It states that Mini-League is more important than Overall Score.

this overrides general rules for WC event
http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf

sorry socke is out


how random is that. I mean why override your rules for one event???

now I am angry.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 15:07:48
March 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1875
Nerchio likes to block the nat like that (That's why he 12 scouts) and get 6 lings to go straight to the toss's base cause a properly placed cannon will kill off the evo and you just attack the cannon with the broodlings + the 6 lings. I've never seen him do it versus someone as good as MC but I hope he can pull it off in this series.
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#1876
stream keeps lagging... any way to fix?
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 06 2012 15:07 GMT
#1877
On March 07 2012 00:06 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 00:04 wktr wrote:
does anyone know what's happening with Strelok vs MMA? been showing 1-0 to MMA for a long time now.


They probably didn't play the last game as it was unnecessary.


haha ^^ so true.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
March 06 2012 15:07 GMT
#1878
Socke is out. check here:

http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf

the most important part:

"Ties
In the following section, rules for cases where participants are tied by points are explained. If after all listed
steps the participants are still indistinguishable, a decider match or matches (possibly in a shorter best-ofmode)
are played, in an attempt to separate the participants in question. In special cases, the tournament
direction can rule on a different way to determine the order in an unsolvable tie (i.e. coin toss).
• If two or more StarCraft II players are tied by points, the following criteria apply. If at any point the
number of still tied participants is reduced or divided into several groups of tied participants, any
remaining ties are solved by starting at point 1 again.
1. overall map difference

2. overall numer of won maps
3. points among tied participants
4. map difference among tied participants
5. number of won maps among tied participants"
keep it deep! @zulison
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 06 2012 15:07 GMT
#1879
Since when is quick 3rd "Stephano style"?
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
March 06 2012 15:07 GMT
#1880
On March 07 2012 00:01 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 23:59 Deshkar wrote:
On March 06 2012 23:57 Destructicon wrote:
I don't think Nerchio threw that one away, he really couldn't do anything, no burrow, no Nydus and no overlord drops.

MC, showing us how to abuse FF since 2010.



Close by air, he totally wasn't prepared, he saw the warp prism, should have some units rather to snipe the sentries.

Foreigners' mechanics and overall game strategies are on par, but the Koreans really shine in terms of decision making and crisis management.


Koreans micro a lot better.


Hmmm I phrased that a little badly, should have said I have seen some foreigners occasionally reaching or coming close to the Koreans' in strategies/mechanics in some games, but I have totally never really seen foreigners coming even anywhere close in terms of crisis management and decision making of the Koreans. Maybe Thorzain?

It the far superior crisis management and decision making that allows the Koreans be able to crawl back after being placed behind, hardly (difficult to recall one) see Foreigners being able to climb back from a deficit. Yet for Koreans, whether against another Korean or a foreigner, have always the potential to bounce back.
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