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dragonborn
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releasing gracken's contract and buying stephano? | ||
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:40 Destructicon wrote: Still sad though, I watch these games to see the best play possible, not for foreign or korean mumbo jumbo, if a foreigner plays really, really good then I'll cheer for him. I don't often cheer for foreigners because the Koreans quite frankly just outclass most of them and I usually can hardly wait to see the Koreans play. Goes to show people don't appreciate good play as much as they do their favorites. I know... The people who said Lucky played awful when he lost to Polt instead of praising Polt probably were the same who praised Stephano instead of blaming the "bad" play by Puma... Hypocrites. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:23 Severus_ wrote: Flash is the best of the 5 bonjwas. Flash holds the longest winning streak for both TvT (22 wins) and TvP (13 wins) in so called “regular games”.Flash is the most successful player in the history of progaming in terms of qualification. After his 2010 achievements, Flash was nicknamed God Young-Ho by Korean fans. According to TLPD Flash is currently the only player with a winrate greater than 70% in all of his matchups. Now he is 14:0 in PL. And in PL he wins some games "by accident"  | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
oh im sad Hiya didnt switch he was the biggest Magikarp  | ||
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Robson13
United Kingdom248 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
Please clearly its a Hairve | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:35 Lorizean wrote: What I mean is that your ELO doesn't increase by a whole lot by beating players with very low ELO (i.e. random masters dude at randomeucuptournament thing #5) I'm not trying to say that the TLPD ELO means a whole lot, but just saying that playing a lot of low-skill cups doesn't helpt your ELO all that much. the problem with elo is sc2 is that there isnt 1 pool of players, there a small bunch of players who play truely international events, the top x koreans, top x foreigners, but they still recieve elo from beating people who have never played outside their country, we all know genius is a great protoss, but because hes only played in korea how do we know what his relative skill is? you only have the look at the results of someone like destiny to see that certain players style causes really weird results if you were making bets purely on elo numbers. there is basically 2 distinct pots of players, with only a small crossover, infact i think it would be a better system to completely ignore games between foreigners and koreans when working out elo, because the cross over is too small. | ||
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Robson13
United Kingdom248 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:41 dragonborn wrote: hey EG, what is next? releasing gracken's contract and buying stephano? What a stupid post even though this is an obvious troll, why does everyon discuss IdrA even though he isnt even playing in the tournament | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:33 LittleCoin wrote: Not biased one way or another, but that's because Stephano plays against lower level players in a ton of different events (with regard to his ELO) compared to what many top-level player do. Elo, Elo, Elo. Elo does not mean as much if you are using it across inconsistent tournament formats in a game such as SC2. We would just be better off if we stopped trying to argue who are the Top X players, but that will never happen. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:42 Robson13 wrote: Stephano is a great player and could easily be the best foreigner, but he isnt the best player/zerg in the world. People need to understand that dominating EU invitationals and going 29-1 in ZvP is a lot different to winning GSL. (Although this field was quite good, im not tryin to take anything away from him) No one in their right mind can say he's the best zerg in the world, that's just crazy. But I could definitely make an argument for top 10, and possibly top 5. DRG is my #1 and Leenock #2 :D | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:38 Azarkon wrote: GSL favors Korean players since it's their home turf. Foreigner tournaments favor foreign players since it's their home turf. When a Korean player takes a foreigner tournament against the best the foreigner's scene has got to offer, that shows a gap. When a foreigner player does the same in GSL, that shows a gap. I don't think Stephano will ever get to the point where he'll be able to show a gap against the best of the best. For this reason, I think requirements like yours are way too high. I think a good bar for Stephano would be if he consistently defeats GSL champions in foreigner tournaments. If he can do that, I'd be willing to say that he's the top Zerg, with the understanding that there can be multiple top Zergs around the same level. I agree. Also, with Nestea playing how he play nowadays, the only 2 "top" zerg that consistently win in Korea are DRG and Leenock. Coca was another that felt above the rest while he was playing, incredibly smooth play, but he has been inactive for a while. I wouldn't bat an eye if someone could think Stephano was Top 3 Z in the world. The rest of Foreigner aren't even close honestly. Naniwa and Thorzain are the best two behind him right now, but they're incredibly inconsistent, and i wouldn't put them even in a Top 10 for their race. | ||
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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:36 Jyvblamo wrote: #5. Sheth: could beat the others in a wrestling match Or pie-eating contest. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:44 Robson13 wrote: What a stupid post even though this is an obvious troll, why does everyon discuss IdrA even though he isnt even playing in the tournament oh, calm down buddy. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
Oh shiiiiit. | ||
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mmatahi
France126 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:41 dragonborn wrote: hey EG, what is next? releasing gracken's contract and buying stephano? Please no !!! it seems that every up and coming player that joined EG having been doing well after that : HuK, PuMa, then JYP :/ | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:41 XiGua wrote: I know... The people who said Lucky played awful when he lost to Polt instead of praising Polt probably were the same who praised Stephano instead of blaming the "bad" play by Puma... Hypocrites. Well so in this game Puma did exactly the same opening he did against Stephano and did a lot more damage. Blame that on Lucky or acknowledge that Stephano did just defend it way better because he is a better player? | ||
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Deshkar
Singapore1244 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Oh nvm marines will do o.o | ||
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Destructicon
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