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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:52 XiGua wrote: I just want Stephano to go to GSL once. If he wins it, once, I can declare him best Zerg in SC2 history. I want him to play GSl aswell. So people will finally stop to overhype him | ||
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HuKPOWA
United States1604 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:49 AsnSensation wrote: what are you talking about? in a pregame interview a few hours ago stephano said that he almost never beat polt on ladder ....u notice hero is up there too right? and puma? lol If u havent noticed there are more foreign tournaments than korean tournaments...im surprised there arent more foreigners in top 5 sad how people look at elo... not saying Stephano is bad...its just everytimes he wins a match it seems like everyone thinks he is the Flash of SC2...gets kinda pathetic :\ especially for someone who admitted he claims he only plays for money | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:45 Gheizen64 wrote: I agree. Also, with Nestea playing how he play nowadays, the only 2 "top" zerg that consistently win in Korea are DRG and Leenock. Coca was another that felt above the rest while he was playing, incredibly smooth play, but he has been inactive for a while. I wouldn't bat an eye if someone could think Stephano was Top 3 Z in the world. The rest of Foreigner aren't even close honestly. Naniwa and Thorzain are the best two behind him right now, but they're incredibly inconsistent, and i wouldn't put them even in a Top 10 for their race. How are my requirements way too high? Koreans usually WIN the foreign tournaments they attend. There's no favouritism for foreigners at foreign tourneys. At one point if three Koreans entered, we already knew who 1, 2 and 3 would be. These days koreans STILL usually win foreign tourneys if anyone significant turns up, with occasions where a foreigner wins it and the koreans take position 2, and usually 3 - 4 as well. GSL is simply harder than any foreign tourney. It's not about favouritism, and that's why being the GSL champion means as much as it does. The problem with these discussions is people always over-react. If you say Stephano is over-hyped, this somehow means you're saying he sucks. If you say he hasn't proved himself in GSL, you're saying that you don't rate any of his achievements. It prevents even the beginnings of a sensible talk about the matter. Stephano is obviously a great player. But GSL has the rep it does for a reason, and it's not because Koreans play there. It's a combination of 1. Koreans being the best players right now 2. GSL being a SAVAGELY difficult tournament and 3. Foreigners consistently getting massacred in it while Koreans turn up to foreign tournaments and top 3 almost every time. Even if Steph is always up there with them or even beats them, it's the GSL where he needs to prove his overall skill level. I think he'd beat round of 32 unless he got Group of Death'd, but I don't think he'd get very far once he ran into terrans who are very good at customizing builds to counter styles. Stephano's weakness - to me - seems to be that he has his style and he sticks to it. Against people with slightly inferior unit control and macro, that style looks unstoppable. Against people who's mechanics are up to scratch and who know it's coming, I don't think it'll look half so unbeatable. But that's theory for now because Steph has no interest in going to Korea. That doesn't invalidate the observation, though. | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:49 AsnSensation wrote: what are you talking about? in a pregame interview a few hours ago stephano said that he almost never beat polt on ladder Can you take Stephano serious though in that regard?  | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:36 Snettik wrote: korean vs korean. 10k drop in viewers. Coincidence? It's not Korean vs Korean that's the problem, it's Puma vs Lucky. If it was MC vs MKP, there would've been an increase in viewers if anything. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:53 Tarotis wrote: I want him to play GSl aswell. So people will finally stop to overhype him What are you on about he went 2-2 in the Blizzard Cup group stages. DRG went 3-1. HerO went 0-4. Nestea went "1"-3. He destroyed Kr ladder while there. He doesn't want to play there as the only tournament with any money in the GSL and that takes three moneths to complete and you HAVE to win it. Dude is quitting in September or whatever and wants to get as much cash as possible, makes far more sense to keep going to these foreigner events and taking free pay checks for two days EZ mode work. | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
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Poy
Belgium17 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:53 HuKPOWA wrote: especially for someone who admitted he claims he only plays for money Because all others pros are only playing for fun and free. Yeah. Right. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:55 mvtaylor wrote: What are you on about he went 2-2 in the Blizzard Cup group stages. DRG went 3-1. HerO went 0-4. Nestea went "1"-3. He destroyed Kr ladder while there. He doesn't want to play there as the only tournament with any money in the GSL and that takes three moneths to complete and you HAVE to win it. Dude is quitting in September or whatever and wants to get as much cash as possible, makes far more sense to keep going to these foreigner events and taking free pay checks for two days EZ mode work. Yes, going 2-2 hardly signifies him as the best in the world/best zerg in the world. Which is what the guy is talking about, not whether it would be profitable. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
Polt wins im super happy Stephano wins, meh the bracket sucks hes damn lucky | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:55 mvtaylor wrote: What are you on about he went 2-2 in the Blizzard Cup group stages. DRG went 3-1. HerO went 0-4. Nestea went "1"-3. He destroyed Kr ladder while there. He doesn't want to play there as the only tournament with any money in the GSL and that takes three moneths to complete and you HAVE to win it. Dude is quitting in September or whatever and wants to get as much cash as possible, makes far more sense to keep going to these foreigner events and taking free pay checks for two days EZ mode work. The blizzard cup and the Korean ladder are VERY different to the GSL He won't win it but I could see him getting through the group stages. | ||
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benKrO71
France65 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:49 AsnSensation wrote: what are you talking about? in a pregame interview a few hours ago stephano said that he almost never beat polt on ladder stop be angry when you are wrong ^^ i dont know he said thaht but it was wrong because he beated polt several time an exemple in kor ladder : use google buddy search " stephano vs polt " | ||
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MOMOPEWPEW
Germany112 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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cythaze
830 Posts
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zomgE
498 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:55 Zzoram wrote: It's not Korean vs Korean that's the problem, it's Puma vs Lucky. If it was MC vs MKP, there would've been an increase in viewers if anything. and a 20min break before it, also 3rd place matches are boring im | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:57 Drazerk wrote: The blizzard cup and the Korean ladder are VERY different to the GSL He won't win it but I could see him getting through the group stages. Yea I wouldn't be surprised to see Stephano get through the ro32. ro16 seems about right, ro8 possible. Much further... meh I don't think so but I guess he could surprise me. Too bad it won't ever happen | ||
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