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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 24 2012 18:10 GMT
#3261
he forgot charge?
Stork[gm]
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3262
Tanks are so useless in SC2 TvP beyond a certain point...
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3263
jesus christ, how hard is it to defend against a banshee?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Loooui
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden348 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3264
On February 25 2012 03:08 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:04 Loooui wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.


I totally agree. It is stupid to think he wanted to get lucky with a nuke, it was all tactical movement and a strategy to control space. Sure Jinro made some smaller mistakes, and so did Elfi. But it is laughable to see all those people calling it a terrible game.

Elfi had some very good decisions for example when he managed to kill the planetary 2 times in a row when jinro was out of position, good reactions to nukes and had very nice army micro with zealots in front and hts out of emp range etcetera.


I understand that he was trying to control space, but he wasn't doing it very effectively. Watch MVP use defensive nukes against Lucky for example. He doesn't throw nukes everywhere at random, he uses them sparingly to continuously drive back the deathball. Jinro was constantly wasting nukes when Elfi wasn't even considering moving out.

Also, considering Elfi's previous play, I think drops would have worked wonders even in late game.


If you compare everything to MVP, then almost every terran is "terrible" but i think that is unfair. I think Jinro did succesfully drive back the deathball many times in that game.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3265
On February 25 2012 03:09 Am3ndment wrote:
btw, was wondering why they are allowed to play on their own accounts, since between games teammates can go and tell tips and tricks how to beat his enemy?


Where is the problem with that? If its not in the game itself (stream - cheating). It does happen in every sport? GSL, Boxing..
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3266
I allways love when Zealots just jaywalk past tanks shooting at them. Litterally i had laugh out loud when Apollo mentioned how the tanks will make short work of Elfis army.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3267
why elfi is not expanding? geez
Stork[gm]
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3268
On February 25 2012 03:11 GARO wrote:
Tanks are so useless in SC2 TvP beyond a certain point...


yea htey do terrible damage for their cost in resources and also they suck for a 3 supply unit
savior did nothing wrong
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3269
argh... i think im too used to the cleaner play by the koreans >_<.

Their lack of multitasking is pretty glaring T_T... i guess this makes the game clsoer since they are equally matched
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
February 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#3270
On February 25 2012 03:11 Grumbels wrote:
jesus christ, how hard is it to defend against a banshee?

It requires more than 70 apm and 1 control group, too much for elfi to handle.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
February 24 2012 18:12 GMT
#3271
Go go chinro!
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 24 2012 18:12 GMT
#3272
Banshees keeping Jinro in the game..
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12918 Posts
February 24 2012 18:12 GMT
#3273
On February 25 2012 03:08 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:04 Loooui wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.


I totally agree. It is stupid to think he wanted to get lucky with a nuke, it was all tactical movement and a strategy to control space. Sure Jinro made some smaller mistakes, and so did Elfi. But it is laughable to see all those people calling it a terrible game.

Elfi had some very good decisions for example when he managed to kill the planetary 2 times in a row when jinro was out of position, good reactions to nukes and had very nice army micro with zealots in front and hts out of emp range etcetera.


I understand that he was trying to control space, but he wasn't doing it very effectively. Watch MVP use defensive nukes against Lucky for example. He doesn't throw nukes everywhere at random, he uses them sparingly to continuously drive back the deathball. Jinro was constantly wasting nukes when Elfi wasn't even considering moving out.

Also, considering Elfi's previous play, I think drops would have worked wonders even in late game.

Watch Mvp... Are you kidding us?
No terran ever can play as good as Mvp in a tactical nuke based game. It's pointless to compare
WriterMaru
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
February 24 2012 18:12 GMT
#3274
i read somewhere on tl that sloppy sc in the most exciting sc, and this serious is good evidence of that.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 24 2012 18:12 GMT
#3275
On February 25 2012 03:11 Ryukku wrote:
argh... i think im too used to the cleaner play by the koreans >_<.

Their lack of multitasking is pretty glaring T_T... i guess this makes the game clsoer since they are equally matched



Hehe, well we will see that kind of play starting tomorrow. But for 20$ though....
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 16:04:48
February 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#3276
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#3277
Holy hell, that was a ballsy push by strelok but I think it might have just won him G1 15 workers is a pretty good trade imo
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
February 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#3278
Elfi needs to learn how to use control groups and split HTs.
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
February 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#3279
On February 25 2012 03:12 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:08 zefreak wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:04 Loooui wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.


I totally agree. It is stupid to think he wanted to get lucky with a nuke, it was all tactical movement and a strategy to control space. Sure Jinro made some smaller mistakes, and so did Elfi. But it is laughable to see all those people calling it a terrible game.

Elfi had some very good decisions for example when he managed to kill the planetary 2 times in a row when jinro was out of position, good reactions to nukes and had very nice army micro with zealots in front and hts out of emp range etcetera.


I understand that he was trying to control space, but he wasn't doing it very effectively. Watch MVP use defensive nukes against Lucky for example. He doesn't throw nukes everywhere at random, he uses them sparingly to continuously drive back the deathball. Jinro was constantly wasting nukes when Elfi wasn't even considering moving out.

Also, considering Elfi's previous play, I think drops would have worked wonders even in late game.

Watch Mvp... Are you kidding us?
No terran ever can play as good as Mvp in a tactical nuke based game. It's pointless to compare


i think thats his point. The fact that so much more could have been done with that strategy means that it wasnt that good of a play by jinro
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#3280
Jinro is playing pretty well despite being so far behind from the beginning.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
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