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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
February 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#3181
On February 25 2012 02:57 Flanq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 02:56 negon wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:55 Kznn wrote:
were bcs a good option in that game?

BCs are never a good option.
And no, he would die during the transition or simply to feedback.

You should check out Jinro vs Classic(Or Creator I can't remember which)Prime, in the EWM the other day, Jinro uses BCs very well in an almost identical late game situation to that.


You should rewatch it yourself the BC'ed died without doing anything. The only reason Jinro won that game is because his opponent ran his whole army into a nuke
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#3182
Man, that was hilarious. I bet if Taeja was watching the games, he'd be bursting a stitch laughing.
But the commentator is right. Every single Nuke had a scan to announce it.
I think the scan icon is alot easier to see than the little tinny bitty red dot.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
February 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#3183
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12686 Posts
February 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#3184
On February 25 2012 02:57 JayJay_90 wrote:
wait what?! you actually think that was an entertaining game? O___O

some people just love nukes I guess.
The game was so very dull and painful to watch...
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3185
On February 25 2012 02:56 Aegeis wrote:
I am liking the nice clean professional look by TB, it suits him well.

He's missing the top hat.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3186
On February 25 2012 02:57 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 02:57 mizU wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:56 Aegeis wrote:
I am liking the nice clean professional look by TB, it suits him well.


TotalBrowder?

Terrible terrible joke.
Well played.
#freeshauni
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3187
On February 25 2012 02:58 jliu wrote:
that hold against the 2 colossi push at the very very end was sick. dunno how jinro did it.

btw totalbiscuit.... looks so.... old......


he looks professional, great look
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3188
On February 25 2012 02:57 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 02:57 mizU wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:56 Aegeis wrote:
I am liking the nice clean professional look by TB, it suits him well.


TotalBrowder?

Terrible terrible joke.
...right?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 18:03:49
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3189
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.

lol no, his scvs were killed by the storms, don't you remember?
the use of the nukes was probably just to delay any push and zone out a huge proportion of the map, so he can always nuke and remax easily.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3190
Jinro played well, but he only won that game because elfi was soooooooooo bad. You could tell elfi tipped when he lost his surefire A-Move win early on at jinros 4th to jinros perfect micro. Elfi was like "wat? my a-move toss ball no gg?" and proceded to fall apart.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
February 24 2012 17:59 GMT
#3191
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.

Exactly my thoughts. I don't have a clue why everyone is thinking Jinro is bad without pointing out actual mistakes. Glad to hear a high level player has the same thoughts <3.
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3192
On February 25 2012 02:57 Labbetuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 02:56 JayJay_90 wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:55 fezvez wrote:
Fuck yeah Jinro!

Sooo impressed (nut not by your obvious nukes...)

impressed? he played terrible. but elfi even more so.


Terrible? More like TvP late-game. But yeah, pretty terrible.

He didn't do a single drop. That is terrible against protoss and against Elfi especially. His nukes did basically nothing. The only good thing was him constantly sniping observers with vikings. His micro in the engagements was mediocre at best.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3193
On February 25 2012 02:57 JayJay_90 wrote:
wait what?! you actually think that was an entertaining game? O___O

Maybe you should stop assuming everyone think like you do.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3194
On February 25 2012 02:58 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 02:57 Flanq wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:56 negon wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:55 Kznn wrote:
were bcs a good option in that game?

BCs are never a good option.
And no, he would die during the transition or simply to feedback.

You should check out Jinro vs Classic(Or Creator I can't remember which)Prime, in the EWM the other day, Jinro uses BCs very well in an almost identical late game situation to that.


You should rewatch it yourself the BC'ed died without doing anything. The only reason Jinro won that game is because his opponent ran his whole army into a nuke

Nothing, except the mass yamato that killed all the colossi?
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3195
Kaelarisss!!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3196
With the number of nukes Jinro used trough out the game, he could have actually take out all of Elfi's production. I'd love to see a tactic along the lines of dropping cloaked ghosts with hold fire into the Toss base then nuking all the production while at the same time nuking his mineral lines.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13402 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3197
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.


Yup thats what impressed me the most even with only 30 scvs he was totally fine though I think it would have gone a lot better earlier if jinro had gotten the armour upgrade for his buildings instead of the space in bunkers upgrade which he misclicked
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#3198
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.


true, but there were at least 3 occasions when he had his ghosts and a whole bunch of clumped up high templars without observers. I think a few snipes or an emp would have been alot better?

But then, in such a large macro game, I guess it would be difficult to switch mentality. I guess that's why its so impressive what the Koreans do with their Ghosts.
Nicck
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden2 Posts
February 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#3199
Bischu going crazy in group G
Humdidum
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
February 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#3200
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.

Most people in here don't understand such things, it's sad because what Jinro displayed is the only way to really win in a lategame situation in TvP without being already in advance (lots of PF, nukes, and minimal scv count until protoss mines out, controlling where the P engages). But the map helped allowing that with these chokes
WriterMaru
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