When: Thursday, Feb 09 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Thursday, Feb 09 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))
Format
This double-elimination tournament features 16 teams from around the world and is an All-Kill team format. This match is being played for Losers Round 1. The first team to defeat everyone on the opposing team's roster (5 wins, or a best of 9), will move on in the Losers Bracket, while the losing team will be eliminated from the tournament entirely. Keep in mind that this has a $20,000 prize pool, and only six teams will make it to the money!
Team ReIGN Artist giX SLush KiWiKaKi Inori Future Axslav
ZeNEX Jjun Cutter Sparta Line Kyrix Life Pet EXTREME Avenge (explosion) Mushroom
The First Game for this match of IPL Team Arena Challenge 2 is on Thursday, Feb 09 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Thursday, Feb 09 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))
giX < Atlantis Spaceship > Life KiWiKaKi < Shattered Temple > Life Axslav < Shakuras Plateau > Life Inori < Sanshorn Mist AE > Life Artist < Terminus > Life Congratulations to ZeNEX.Life on the All-Kill! ZeNEX moves on to LR2 while ReIGN is eliminated completely!
Map List
Terminus SE Darkness Falls Sanshorn Mist Atlantis Spaceship Shakuras Plateau Calm Before the Storm Shattered Temple Antiga Shipyard (Cross Only) Daybreak Tal’Darim Altar
All the maps can be found on NA, EU, or KR by searching for IPLMap!
The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.
Casters
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Zenex should win, but I would not be surprised if Reign pulls the upset. Even when Artist, Inori and Kiwikaki underperformed against TSL, Reign was still able to force a 3-5 loss. Then again, Zenex has been a team full of surprises as well in the IPL TAC and GSTL.
ReIGN is actually very strong for a foreigner team, with good Korean aces. I wouldn't be surprised if they can pull the win out against ZeNEX. That being said though, we don't really know the full depth of ZeNEX right now. Their match against oGs was quite surprising.
After seeing the Reign documentary, I hope Reign can pull out an upset. Both seem to be struggling teams right now, but I would rather have Reign win this.
On February 09 2012 09:04 Negatiive wrote: good thing i have all of ReIGN on my friends list, saw the match stats. ^^ not spoiling it though
oh thats just cruel share for a poor fellow reign fan who has to work during the match. (i am just home on lunch it'll be over before i get back.) i really wanted to get a latter lunch but we didn't have any coverage.
On a related note go reign i'll be rooting for you even though i won;t be able to watch it you better win.
On February 09 2012 09:04 Negatiive wrote: good thing i have all of ReIGN on my friends list, saw the match stats. ^^ not spoiling it though
I don't know why people like you exist. Why do you want to be spoiled before even seeing the games?
for some people knowing the results doesn't spoil their appreciation of the games. like me never been spoiled in my life becuase knowing the results just makes the games all the more fun to watch.
just on a wild guess i am going to guess that artist all kills or something like it becuase he's better then just about any one on zenex.
On February 09 2012 09:04 Negatiive wrote: good thing i have all of ReIGN on my friends list, saw the match stats. ^^ not spoiling it though
I don't know why people like you exist. Why do you want to be spoiled before even seeing the games?
for some people knowing the results doesn't spoil their appreciation of the games. like me never been spoiled in my life becuase knowing the results just makes the games all the more fun to watch.
just on a wild guess i am going to guess that artist all kills or something like it becuase he's better then just about any one on zenex.
Like...I just don't understand why you have to brag about it on the forums.
Also why does EG have this infatuation with the cannon hits?
On February 09 2012 09:04 Negatiive wrote: good thing i have all of ReIGN on my friends list, saw the match stats. ^^ not spoiling it though
I don't know why people like you exist. Why do you want to be spoiled before even seeing the games?
for some people knowing the results doesn't spoil their appreciation of the games. like me never been spoiled in my life becuase knowing the results just makes the games all the more fun to watch.
just on a wild guess i am going to guess that artist all kills or something like it becuase he's better then just about any one on zenex.
I'm not sure if you watched GSTL, but TREME's play was remarkable. I think it's fair to say that TREME is a better PvTer then Artist is at TvP. At the same time, while I think that Line and Life are better all around, Artist might have the edge in TvZ/ZvT. Obviously Artist still could do a lot of damage, but I don't think he could beat an entire Korean team, even if it is ZeNEX.
Inori's PvP is way overhyped. It's good, but outside of his IPL performance, he hasn't really done anything. HuK is extremely inconsistent, MC was definitely overconfident, and the style that Inori played with was pretty unexplored at the time. His opponent's were under-prepared and he clearly prepared a lot. Outside of IPL3 he hasn't had any impressive results, even in PvP. 2-11 in Korea, never reached GSL, but beat two great PvPers in a row. And now, months later, without any new results, he's considered "unbeatable" in PvP. That makes sense.... He's good, but he is ridiculously overhyped.
Anyways, looks like Life is going to all-kill. His momentum going into this next match against Artist is going to be ridiculous. Even if Artist plays his best, I think that Life might just knock ReIGN out. I can't imagine Artist beating TREME, Avenge, Line, and whoever else ZeNEX decides to field.
Life in Online Tournaments is one of the scariest players out there . Reign doesn't really have anybody of that magnitude only several pretty decent / good players but nobody that really stands out.
On February 09 2012 11:10 s3rp wrote: Life in Online Tournaments is one of the scariest players out there . Reign doesn't really have anybody of that magnitude only several pretty decent / good players but nobody that really stands out.
Artist is way better then everybody else on ReIGN, namely his TvZ. He has one of the sickest records in the match-up, he definitely could beat Life, but I'm not sure he can stop this momentum. Then TREME, Avenge, and Line will almost certainly clean him up.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji in the finals last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji in the finals last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
I am only basing that statement off of what I've seen tonight.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
Honestly, I don't really see a code a player beating Artist as any kind of decent win either. Thank God that's over. So insanely uncompetitive :/
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
Honestly, I don't really see a code a player beating Artist as any kind of decent win either. Thank God that's over. So insanely uncompetitive :/
In the foreign scene Artist is very good but there are a hundred Artists in Korea. People tend to overhype players who stomp on foreigners.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
Honestly, I don't really see a code a player beating Artist as any kind of decent win either. Thank God that's over. So insanely uncompetitive :/
Artist is one of the best TvZ players in the foreign community. He's not Code S caliber, but as far as his TvZ goes, he could definitely compete at a Code A level.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
Artist is pretty good but he hasn't won anything significant over the cours of his career. Yeah he has a pretty good Winrate but most Koreans pros would have those if they competed so much in foreign tournaments. He's a good Korean Code B Terran but not even close to Code A caliber . The niveau Code A has gotten so much better in the last few seasons.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
On February 09 2012 12:26 Shellshock1122 wrote: Just got on. Wow. Zenex sending out the Ace first? I guess they don't want to risk anything and want to try and end it quick
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
Exactly.
Also, <3
PS. Didn't say one sucks unless he beats those guys, but one needs to prove himself against highly rated opponents consistently before being labeled good compared to other professionals.
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote: [quote] He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
Exactly.
Also, <3
PS. Didn't say one sucks unless he beats those guys, but one needs to prove himself against highly rated opponents consistently before being labeled good compared to other professionals.
The guy has wins over Lucky, NeeL (TSL Symbol), DIMAGA, Nerchio, etc. What more do you want? And he has a >85% win rate after that. THAT'S CONSISTENTLY BEATING HIGH RATED OPPONENTS! He is good at TvZ, people who say otherwise are ignorant.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Everybody's record in the foreign community is littered with random people they've played, but you'd be hard pressed to find a record that good over that many games that isn't considered a top tier player. Also your definition of a good player is stupid, to say the least. I'm not saying that Artist is Code S quality, I'm saying that his TvZ alone could compete at a Code A level.
On February 09 2012 11:22 dragonborn wrote: [quote] yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote: [quote]
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
Exactly.
Also, <3
PS. Didn't say one sucks unless he beats those guys, but one needs to prove himself against highly rated opponents consistently before being labeled good compared to other professionals.
The guy has wins over Lucky, NeeL (TSL Symbol), DIMAGA, Nerchio, etc. What more do you want? And he has a >85% win rate after that. THAT'S CONSISTENTLY BEATING HIGH RATED OPPONENTS! He is good at TvZ, people who say otherwise are ignorant.
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Everybody's record in the foreign community is littered with random people they've played, but you'd be hard pressed to find a record that good over that many games that isn't considered a top tier player. Also your definition of a good player is stupid, to say the least. I'm not saying that Artist is Code S quality, I'm saying that his TvZ alone could compete at a Code A level.
true bro,i think he can compete in code S to with his TvZ.
On February 09 2012 11:25 The Final Boss wrote: [quote] What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote: [quote] He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Artist is good TvZ man,he beat DIMAGA,viOlet,Lucky and SymboL...
don't underestimate him.
Beating those players makes him decent at TvZ. Lucky is barely Code S, now back down to Code A.
Good at TvZ means beating code S zergs like Curious
Great at TvZ means beating DRG or Leenock and other top tier zergs.
Foreigner win rate is a weak argument =/
ah so being good at matchup is only when you win vP vs MC, vT when you win vs MVP, MMA and vs Z when you win vs Nestea and DRG, otherwise you suck, oke got it.
Exactly.
Also, <3
PS. Didn't say one sucks unless he beats those guys, but one needs to prove himself against highly rated opponents consistently before being labeled good compared to other professionals.
The guy has wins over Lucky, NeeL (TSL Symbol), DIMAGA, Nerchio, etc. What more do you want? And he has a >85% win rate after that. THAT'S CONSISTENTLY BEATING HIGH RATED OPPONENTS! He is good at TvZ, people who say otherwise are ignorant.
On February 09 2012 11:51 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:38 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:33 dragonborn wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:25 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:22 dragonborn wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
yeah Abver is best ZvT in eu.
What? That has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about and it's not true.
But in NASTL Abver did so well against Artist as known as #1 ELO TvZer
ReIGN looking bad,i dont like it.
You're trying to be funny and inflammatory, but you're just looking like an idiot, which is all I really expect from your posts. Winning a Bo1 doesn't mean that you suddenly are the "best in a match-up." However, holding a >85% win rate in a match-up over the course of almost 50 games does speak to how good he is at the match-up. Even if he's playing foreigners, winning that high of a percentage of games is ridiculous Artist TLPD
On February 09 2012 11:36 Arceus wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:17 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:14 turamn wrote: Not to take anything away from Life here, but hes not exactly beating anyone special. Its not even middling code a/b players.
Take a look at the list of players he took out in the Iron Squid qualifiers last weekend. He also beat Jjakji last year when he won the Korean Weekly. He's very young, and very inconsistent, but when he plays well, he's an extremely entertaining player to watch and clearly has great potential.
He was pretty clearly talking about this specific match. No one is going to try to deny that Life is really good (well nobody who knows anything about SC2). Beating Artist would certainly be beating someone "special."
cmon this Artist dude is mediocre at best. Im not hating but he rather showed it. I fail to see why you hype him so hard everytime
Just look at his record? People hype up Inori because he went 5-3 at IPL. Personally, I find consistency to be a lot more impressive than a one time flash in the pan.
yeah man 90% of the games, he beat slivkowho, tefelwho, ilovesmilewho and lotta [insert random]zerg. He also managed to snatch games from Check. violet zomg. Thats gosuness imo And talking about consistency, I think no one can beat this guy for his 0-0 record in kr. So infinitely consistent
Everybody's record in the foreign community is littered with random people they've played, but you'd be hard pressed to find a record that good over that many games that isn't considered a top tier player. Also your definition of a good player is stupid, to say the least. I'm not saying that Artist is Code S quality, I'm saying that his TvZ alone could compete at a Code A level.
true bro,i think he can compete in code S to with his TvZ.
Not enough Zergs left in Code S. And the fires of competition have purged the weak.
PS. Didn't say one sucks unless he beats those guys, but one needs to prove himself against highly rated opponents consistently before being labeled good compared to other professionals.
The guy has wins over Lucky, NeeL (TSL Symbol), DIMAGA, Nerchio, etc. What more do you want? And he has a >85% win rate after that. THAT'S CONSISTENTLY BEATING HIGH RATED OPPONENTS! He is good at TvZ, people who say otherwise are ignorant.
Man that (the nested quotes that were so long) was so difficult to shorten.
Anyway
Didn't say he's bad at it. But there are only so many levels of goodness (decent -> good -> great -> godly?) when it comes to pros. Obviously godly means being the best TvZer in the world. Great is Code S. Good is Code A. Decent is beating the best foreigners / Code B contender. See, I am not insulting him when I say his TvZ is decent, in fact it means he's probably one of the best in the foreign scene.
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