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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1941
On February 02 2012 20:31 Telcontar wrote:
Is it possible to spawn in close positions on this map?


Nah, just close air or cross.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1942
On February 02 2012 20:32 Teoita wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:31 Telcontar wrote:
Is it possible to spawn in close positions on this map?


I highly doubt it, it's not a Ladder map from season 1


No, it's like Shakruas.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1943
On February 02 2012 20:33 Whatson wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:32 SpicyCheese wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

Protoss 2 base all ins have always been just as gay as 1-1-1

Which comes earlier, Terran 1/1/1 or Protoss 2-base?

Not sure. 1/1/1 has so many variations, some hit early, some hit really late.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1944
This build hurts my soul
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1945
On February 02 2012 20:15 SpicyCheese wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:13 Blueblister wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:07 SpicyCheese wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:06 Blueblister wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:03 SpicyCheese wrote:
On February 02 2012 19:55 Olinimm wrote:
On February 02 2012 19:54 SpicyCheese wrote:
lol... if MVP is much better then why does he always lose to MMA. Artosis confuses me sometimes

So by your logic polt is better than MMA. but anyone with common sense knows thats not the case.

Umm MMA has played MVP in bo7, bo5, and another bo5 in Geforce ProAM defeating him CONVINCINGLY every time, with the only time that MVP won was at MLG where he was already ahead in extended series anyway.... Also these were all pretty much during MVP's prime. If ur saying MVP was better then he should at least have won some of those sets right? Or at least make them close( which they were all one sided ). The Polt MMA games are pretty much one series of build order, where MMA wasn't even in his prime form and Polt has just sunk into the abyss.

Polt hasn't sunk anywhere he's likely the second best terran in the world at the moment.

lol...

Don't overestimate the GSL. Look at the other top terrans and do a comparison, Polt has beaten MK and Fin recently while both Mvp and Bomber is slumping...

K... so Polt beat MK and Fin and suddenly gets hyped over MVP and Bomber, and it takes MMA 2 titles and code S to achieve the same hype

Well obviously MMA was that good a while before he won those titles. Same with NesTea, he didn't get enough credit during the GSL 2 but instead he's become increasingly hyped after winning his GSLs. (Mvp is an exception to thisrule, he was actually hyped up long before he won anything but this was to some extent because oof him being the best BW player to switch over)

People paying more attention to titles and achievements instead of watching the games are usually slow to catch on...
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1946
Muledickulous.
ROFL
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1947
On February 02 2012 20:23 MorroW wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:22 Hall0wed wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:21 MorroW wrote:
this is pretty stupid, that wasnt even close on crossfire

serious hat on here, what is terran supposed to do? how many bunkers u need rofl


1/1/1 is just as powerful on that map, can't really complain. Map just needs to be removed.

yes 111 is sick on that map im surprised he didnt do this

but this immortal push looks just the same on any map right?


Well the angles and the area of the engagement is a bit different on other maps, which helps out the Terran in their defense. The position of the natural on Crossfire is just terrible, especially for the Immortal/Sentry push. Able to wreck the front while forcefielding the ramp at all times.

The push might be a tiny bit too strong, but I think we need a larger sample of it in the GSL to tell for sure. I have definitely seen some Terrans hold it with ease, but I can't think of which maps I have seen this happen off the top of my head.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1948
On February 02 2012 20:32 jjmmtt wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .


It's not even an all in and is still stupidly that strong, he had his second base and was building colossus.


I'd definitely say it was at least a semi all in, he cut probes for a long time at 36 or 38. He only started probe production / teching again after he'd done enough damage to force MMA back into his base
@x5_MegaFonzie
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1949
On February 02 2012 20:32 dmnum wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:29 aebriol wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:23 dmnum wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:22 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:20 dmnum wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:19 RockStarCrft wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:15 RockStarCrft wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote:
Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.


3 layers? like 6 bunkers...

It seems like 4 bunkers is easily died to this push...

Umm, bunkers are VERY bad against this, you need DPS most of all. If the protoss pushes in correctly at the right angle getting some bunkers up really doesn't do much because they do in like 1 shot to immortals. It's better to make a bunker walloff and have all your units behind tbh.


Then, toss just forcefields to cut your army I really wonder how u could hold this push, because i lose to this push very much lately ...

Flanking might be worth trying.

then he forcefields away the flank and just kills the other half?

I didn't say it's the solution. And you can retreat if he forcefieds one half of your army. This push is not so good once the protoss has no more forcefields no?

The problem is he forcefields your ramp so you can't get all your reinforcements down, and he can kill everything at your natural (all scv's, whatever is of the army there).

Afterwards he can go into your main and forcefield your ramp behind him locking your army outside. Then he warps stuff in at home to defend while dealing as much damage as possible.

Simply put, when the ramp is in a position like that, you want to engage the terran away from your main and natural. You don't want to engage right in your base. Or you want to go all in before he can (ie: 1-1-1).

Ah but when the ramp is that close to the entrance of the natural it's a whole another story. I know it since I'm a zerg. I'm speaking from a zerg's perspective though, in ZvP flanks works wonders.


The main difference is when zerg flanks, they either use melee units or the roaches which don't get decimated by zealots.

Terran flanks, gets forcefielded out or in and gets destroyed by zealots.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1950
On February 02 2012 20:33 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 20:32 SpicyCheese wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

Protoss 2 base all ins have always been just as gay as 1-1-1

Which comes earlier, Terran 1/1/1 or Protoss 2-base?


The timing is basically the same, 9-10 ish minutes. Sometimes 6-7 gate hits faster though, depending on the variation and openings.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1951
On February 02 2012 20:33 Asha` wrote:
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On February 02 2012 20:31 Telcontar wrote:
Is it possible to spawn in close positions on this map?


Nah, just close air or cross.

Tanks.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1952
On February 02 2012 20:33 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 20:32 SpicyCheese wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

Protoss 2 base all ins have always been just as gay as 1-1-1

Which comes earlier, Terran 1/1/1 or Protoss 2-base?

You realize you can 1 base immortal builds too?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1953
lol Tasteless.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1954
LMAO @ Mulediculus the Emperor
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1955
On February 02 2012 20:32 jjmmtt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .


It's not even an all in and is still stupidly that strong, he had his second base and was building colossus.



He cut workers at 27. If he doesn't deal a lot of damage the game's over.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1956
Ugh, they've already forgotten about the strawman.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1957
mulediculous....
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1958
Naama train!!
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1959
On February 02 2012 20:34 Roe wrote:
Muledickulous.
ROFL


ohhh im dying. Tasteless is on fire today
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1960
"Mulediculous sounds like an evil mule king. . ."



Ahahaha, Tastosis making TvP bearable.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
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