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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1921
On February 02 2012 20:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MMA still has a pretty decent chance of getting out of this group, no?

According to OP:
MMA 3-3
Oz 1-2
Supernova 0-2
MMA plays winner of Oz vs. Supernova in next set

So if Oz 2-0s Supernova (putting Oz at 3-2), then it may get interesting, or if Supernova 2-0s Oz (2-2), then it may too...

But I think MMA is still in pretty okay shape, no?

Well, he just has to win the next bo3 to advance, mapscore does not matter.
SpicyCheese
Profile Joined February 2012
United States39 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1922
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

Protoss 2 base all ins have always been just as gay as 1-1-1
Sup
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1923
LOOOOL and even save them!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1924
On February 02 2012 20:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MMA still has a pretty decent chance of getting out of this group, no?

According to OP:
MMA 3-3
Oz 1-2
Supernova 0-2
MMA plays winner of Oz vs. Supernova in next set

So if Oz 2-0s Supernova (putting Oz at 3-2), then it may get interesting, or if Supernova 2-0s Oz (2-2), then it may too...

But I think MMA is still in pretty okay shape, no?

They are both strong opponents though. Supernova has some great timing attacks, and Oz is no slouch.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1925
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

truer words have never been spoken my friend
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1926
On February 02 2012 20:31 Telcontar wrote:
Is it possible to spawn in close positions on this map?


I highly doubt it, it's not a Ladder map from season 1
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 11:33:28
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1927
This is the future of TvP im not even joking. Why expand to just pray protoss doesnt do immortal push, and if they defend your harass you lose in late game anyways.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1928
GSL Ro16 Group B
Match 4 Game 1
FXOz vs oGsSuperNoVa
Metropolis


0:00
Oz spawns P12
Supernova spawns T9

Supernova opens factory double gas
Oz opens 1 gate FE
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 11:34:24
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1929
On February 02 2012 20:29 aebriol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 20:23 dmnum wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:22 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:20 dmnum wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:19 RockStarCrft wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:15 RockStarCrft wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote:
Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.


3 layers? like 6 bunkers...

It seems like 4 bunkers is easily died to this push...

Umm, bunkers are VERY bad against this, you need DPS most of all. If the protoss pushes in correctly at the right angle getting some bunkers up really doesn't do much because they do in like 1 shot to immortals. It's better to make a bunker walloff and have all your units behind tbh.


Then, toss just forcefields to cut your army I really wonder how u could hold this push, because i lose to this push very much lately ...

Flanking might be worth trying.

then he forcefields away the flank and just kills the other half?

I didn't say it's the solution. And you can retreat if he forcefieds one half of your army. This push is not so good once the protoss has no more forcefields no?

The problem is he forcefields your ramp so you can't get all your reinforcements down, and he can kill everything at your natural (all scv's, whatever is of the army there).

Afterwards he can go into your main and forcefield your ramp behind him locking your army outside. Then he warps stuff in at home to defend while dealing as much damage as possible.

Simply put, when the ramp is in a position like that, you want to engage the terran away from your main and natural. You don't want to engage right in your base. Or you want to go all in before he can (ie: 1-1-1).

Ah but when the ramp is that close to the entrance of the natural it's a whole another story. I am speaking from a zerg's perspective though, and in ZvP atleast flanks help a lot holding these kind of pushes from the protoss.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12501 Posts
February 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#1930
omg, that was ouch
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1931
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

Wait for Supernova to win with the 1-1-1!
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1932
surprise butt sex , ouch!
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1933
13 probe kills and the 2 hellions are still alive!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 11:34:01
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1934
On February 02 2012 20:29 SpicyCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 20:26 iamthedave wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:21 0ne wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:18 frucisky wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:18 Nekovivie wrote:
On February 02 2012 20:17 redviper wrote:
Yes! Watching MMA lose makes me so happy. Hope he drops out from here and goes to Code B next season.


Whats he done to deserve that?

MMA's fine, I just hate his fanboys of which he has a lot

Yep, too many "he is proving to be the best player in the world" comments after every single game he wins


He's a GSL champion (twice if you count blizzard cup), he humiliated MVP the last time they met, he walked through his first Code S group as if he was asleep.

For someone who performs as well as he does he's incredibly underhyped. Tastosis started out saying they expected MMA to lose and drop out of this group.

His T v Z is untouchable and his T v T is amazing. He just happens to have a T v P weakness.


Exactly I think it is perfectly fine for people to express beliefs on who the current best player in sc2 is at the moment. No one hesitated to call MVP the best after he won his first championship, why should MMA be different other than the fact that Artosis hates him for the most part.


It took MVP quite a lot more than just his first championship. Mainly because he fell out the very next season to code A lol.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1935
On February 02 2012 20:32 SpicyCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 20:31 Logros wrote:
So nice to hear people complaining about a Protoss all-in that is hard to stop after over 6 months of 1-1-1's .

Protoss 2 base all ins have always been just as gay as 1-1-1

Which comes earlier, Terran 1/1/1 or Protoss 2-base?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1936
On February 02 2012 20:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MMA still has a pretty decent chance of getting out of this group, no?

According to OP:
MMA 3-3
Oz 1-2
Supernova 0-2
MMA plays winner of Oz vs. Supernova in next set

So if Oz 2-0s Supernova (putting Oz at 3-2), then it may get interesting, or if Supernova 2-0s Oz (2-2), then it may too...

But I think MMA is still in pretty okay shape, no?

I would have MMA as favorite to take 2nd place yes.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1937
On February 02 2012 20:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MMA still has a pretty decent chance of getting out of this group, no?

According to OP:
MMA 3-3
Oz 1-2
Supernova 0-2
MMA plays winner of Oz vs. Supernova in next set

So if Oz 2-0s Supernova (putting Oz at 3-2), then it may get interesting, or if Supernova 2-0s Oz (2-2), then it may too...

But I think MMA is still in pretty okay shape, no?


The mapscores are irrelevant, because there can't be ties.

Puzzle will be first with 2-0, second will be 2-1, 3rd 1-2 and last 0-2.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1938
great hellion harrass, gogo supernova
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1939
supernova, the guy that only win when he is 1-1-1ing.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
February 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#1940
Does Supvernova only know how to do 1-1-1 and its variations or something?
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