EPT[GSL] 2012 Season 1 Code A Ro48 D1 - Page 98
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Miragee
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Dagobert
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RPR_Tempest
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jojo311
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Megaman_X
United States164 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:30 BlondeOna wrote: The reason he went mutas is because he expected Avenge to cut his losses and take a third on that map because Avenge would've thought he had map control with phoenix's. The third on that map is relatively easy to defend. Idra's thought process was probably like: 'He's going to take a third because he doesn't believe I have spire tech up, mutas will be a good choice' If you notice, he didn't even have spines at his third until he saw the army move out and realised it must have been a 2base timing. this was what i was thinking | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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TheBamf
Denmark366 Posts
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:35 Sub40APM wrote: seems like instead of making an extra 6 zerglings he could have put down 3-4 more spines, no? I guess I dont understand why after idra shut down Avenge's air attack and saw a total wall of at the expansion idra didnt sink a bunch more spine crawlers? Because what if Avenge was just going to try and play a macro game from behind? If IdrA then just made 3-4 blind spines, he would have sacrificed the advantage that he had gained from all the damage he had done earlier. | ||
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BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
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ftd.rain
United Kingdom539 Posts
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ETisME
12702 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:35 Azarkon wrote: I think the problem with IdrA's approach to Protoss is that he just doesn't offer up enough threats, presumably because he believes that you can't attack a good Protoss and so he doesn't try. I mean, look at the way he plays - he's always the defender in this match-up. He defends and drones and defends and drones and defends, and then he either loses because he failed to defend, or he defends and builds up to 200/200 and then loses anyways because Protoss has a better 200/200 army. The only times he wins is when Protoss messes up one too many times and he is able to remax an army before they're able to put something together. Even with that level of economic damage, with Avenge basically screwing up his VR attack and letting zerglings run into his base, IdrA still ends up looking like he got brutalized when the attack came. For IdrA, this is because the match-up is broken, and maybe he's right. But whether the match-up is broken or not, you can't possibly think that playing a losing strategy like this and hoping that you'd win somehow is a good idea. If you think the match-up is broken, then take risks - cheese, all-in, whatever. At least lose with strategies that have the capability to win. wow, that's a big thing to say, you think that idra is losing because he is playing defensively @@ Everyone got their own style, if he play at a different style, then he cannot play at his best style. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:34 Thombur wrote: PvZ atm feels like 2 base all in before mutas can contain you is the only option. Too hard to get 3 base and mass muta too hard to move out against. ZvP feels like you are trying to survive until you can roll your opponent with mutas or infestor/BL. Such a silly match-up | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:32 CaptainCharisma wrote: People need to realize that Idra isn't good by Korean standards. If he was before, he certainly isn't now. He's been laddering a ton in Korea and can barely get above 50% win-rate, wallowing at around 150th place. He is not better than second string Koreans on Korean teams. Compare that to Stephano's record when he was over there. He was constantly pushing into the top #20 with a sick win rate. It's sad that IdrA isn't the foreigner hope that he used to be  | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:35 SuperFanBoy wrote: Idra is still the best zerg in the world even after that loss, it was just a build order poker loss.. haters gonna hate. wondering if you watched the same series I did. He got completely outplayed and made terrible decisions vs a Code b/a protoss player hes not even in my top 20 zergs | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:33 Sub40APM wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 31 2012 20:31 Tachion wrote: It's been said that when you move to Korea you get worse before you get better. Maybe Idra is still in the former part of the stage >_> maybe he is just busy perfecting his T v Z -- who is the best slayers protoss anyway? puzzle, top 5 toss in the world | ||
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soulist
United States932 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:32 mcjinzo wrote: just so im clear is every 2 base attack a allin? im confused. is it only not allin if they just sit back and keep taking bases? since when have strong timing attacks become automatic "all in" An all in is when a player goes for expensive units with no big economic support. If we look at the 7gate+robo, you have around 6 or 7 sentires aand a couple immortals. If you lose that much expensive stuff on 2 base there is no way you can recover. Generally if you have a good economy, nothing will be an all in | ||
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Kar98
Australia924 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:28 SuperFanBoy wrote: first game he should of made mutas not roaches.. second game he should of made roaches not mutas.. that is all. That's rubbish. If he made mutas he would've had too few the first game. The second game it's hard to commit to roaches because he has that starport up and you don't know if he will get a second one | ||
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Montana[TK]
1624 Posts
whenever i tune into a EU/NA GM stream i have to just turn it off after 5 minutes because the play is such utter crap compared to what KRs can put out. | ||
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Nibbler89
884 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:37 Asha` wrote: cOre helping forGG get back to a positive win ratio vs Protoss lol By failing execution on a 4gate lol. ~_~ | ||
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