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Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#1901
On January 31 2012 20:32 Scrubwave wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:30 hitpoint wrote:
It's really disgusting to see all this hate.

Yeah, they should instead admire Idra's... uh, cool jacket, I suppose?


IdrA is so cocky, that when he loses he's going to get hate...and when he loses like this...he's going to get more hate. That's just how life works.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#1902
On January 31 2012 20:32 Sub40APM wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:28 Extenz wrote:
meh I wanna see stephano in the gsl, idra is overrated

Stephano didnt look that great at that winter blizzard super star thingy.


Think you mean Naniwa there dude. Stephano went 2-2 and showed some pretty good play there.

That ism if you meant the Blizzard Cup thing that Gom hosted
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Xacalite
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany533 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#1903
On January 31 2012 20:29 IMPrime wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:28 TheKefka wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:26 Luppy1 wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:25 Ruscour wrote:
And he has the nerve to whine balance about ZvP at every opportunity...bro watch your replays, there's a reason every other zerg is fine but you


They're not all fine but him though. Nestea said he's having trouble too.

Nestea said zerg was a sad race after he won 2-3 GSLs lol.MVP QQed about terran being weak in a interview.
Its fairly standard to say your race is weak,your certainly not going to say oh yes my race is imba.


polt said terran is OP


those were funny times with 22 terrans in Ro32
I feel fear...for the last time
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#1904
On January 31 2012 20:32 Sub40APM wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:28 Extenz wrote:
meh I wanna see stephano in the gsl, idra is overrated

Stephano didnt look that great at that winter blizzard super star thingy.


2-2 > 0-2
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#1905
On January 31 2012 20:30 Towni wrote:
i don't feel idra respects any of his opponents. his constant bm kicks him in the ass and it makes me happy. even bming poltprime on ladder after going 0-3 instead of typing the wp. this is no professional gamer.

despite this the koreans have respect for him and i have never heard anyhting regarding his gsl spot like: "why did this noob get code s spot. he is just awful!"

byebye idra gogo HuK!


lol. This has been discussed to death by many pros , ladder means nothing. Publicly stating that you get off at other people's "misery" makes you look like a dick more than anything.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#1906
Ouch 4gate can hurt ForGG
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1907
On January 31 2012 20:31 Bashion wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:27 Teoita wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:25 Sambobly wrote:
Can someone explain the muta decision to me? I'm no ZvP expert, but it seems like he just needed to crush the classic 2 base timing to win that thing.


It was terrible and caused his loss, simply put. The guy was going stargate into blink timing, mutas in that situation make no sense. They are fine if you can hold a faster 2base timing from protoss like 4gate +1 with or without void rays, but against what Avenge was doing they plain suck. I guess Idra expected him to take a third rather than allin, or thought the mutas would come out in time to pin protoss back and avoid the allin altogether, but im not sure.


Man, when his lings ran to Avenges natural and it was blocked with pylons, he should've made a few more spines. 3 spines wont hold against a 6 gate/7 gate, especially with blink.


Yep, this was all he needed. His tech choice was fine given his lead. If he had have gone up to 5 or 6 spines that would have looked completely different, especially since he managed to trap the units by the spines with the lings from behind.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1908
Core going for a 4gate.. interesting. Probably thinks Fin is going to 1/1/1 and wants to counter it by allin.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 11:34:35
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1909
On January 31 2012 20:30 HellionDrop wrote:
i feel that idra could totally defend the push if he make roach/infestors instead of mutas,


so many of these commetns.

yeah last game if he cut drones and just went hydra ling, that immortal attack wouldnt have worked as well either.

Shit just doesn't work that way, man. "i can't believe he didn't have the perfect unit composition and plenty of units to deal with his oppoents attack".
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1910
On January 31 2012 20:32 Sub40APM wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:28 Extenz wrote:
meh I wanna see stephano in the gsl, idra is overrated

Stephano didnt look that great at that winter blizzard super star thingy.



What? He looked really good. He was pitted against some of the very best in GSL and only barely barely got 3rd place in his group because of individual results.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1911
seems like idra's skill level execution and macro-wise are a dime a dozen in korea. but, he's the best american player at least :\
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1912
On January 31 2012 20:31 Megabuster123 wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:27 Sigmur wrote:
Guess it's true: Idra is vastly overrated. This code A player I never heard of, winned both games convincingly.
I was watching Losira's games earlier and even though he lost aswell, he played better than greg imo.

No, Losira played just as bad as Idra. He was banking 2.5 k gas and had double spire without making a single muta for like 5 minutes.

But Losira's ZvT is almost as bad as Idra's ZvP

It's always frustrating watching them play....


LosirA played TheStC
IdrA played Avenge
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1913
On January 31 2012 20:32 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:28 Extenz wrote:
meh I wanna see stephano in the gsl, idra is overrated

Stephano didnt look that great at that winter blizzard super star thingy.


You probably didn't saw that "blizzard super start thingy".
GiggleFairy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia331 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1914
On January 31 2012 20:32 mcjinzo wrote:
just so im clear is every 2 base attack a allin? im confused. is it only not allin if they just sit back and keep taking bases? since when have strong timing attacks become automatic "all in"

Well if that push just outright gets countered and dies, where does it leave the protoss? 2 bases, without enough units/tech to safely take a 3rd base, the zerg can pretty much just attack and win. So yeah it is all in because he was not settin himself up at all for the late game.
Thombur
Profile Joined January 2012
95 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1915
PvZ atm feels like 2 base all in before mutas can contain you is the only option. Too hard to get 3 base and mass muta too hard to move out against.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#1916
I think Idra just has his build set out before game, and he does not change it, no matter what he sees - classic Idra non-adaptability. He planned to go mutas from the very start, and seeing phoenix did not deter him one bit.

Don't let the jet door hit you on the head on your way back to the states grack
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
January 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#1917
On January 31 2012 20:31 Megaman_X wrote:
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On January 31 2012 20:25 Polarexia wrote:
that was so bad by idra...muta vs phoenix blink stalker?? wtf

what would be the correct counter then? im just wondering


Hydras or infestors would have been much better choices. As would some roaches, or even just making more than 3 spines. Mutas are bad in straight-up engagements, they're not the unit you want against a 2-base allin.

And even then at the very least he could have focus-fired the phoenixes rather than a-moving his mutas so that they were shooting stalkers.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#1918
I think the problem with IdrA's approach to Protoss is that he just doesn't offer up enough threats, presumably because he believes that you can't attack a good Protoss and so he doesn't try. I mean, look at the way he plays - he's always the defender in this match-up. He defends and drones and defends and drones and defends, and then he either loses because he failed to defend, or he defends and builds up to 200/200 and then loses anyways because Protoss has a better 200/200 army. The only times he wins is when Protoss messes up one too many times and he is able to remax an army before they're able to put something together.

Even with that level of economic damage, with Avenge basically screwing up his VR attack and letting zerglings run into his base, IdrA still ends up looking like he got brutalized when the attack came. For IdrA, this is because the match-up is broken, and maybe he's right. But whether the match-up is broken or not, you can't possibly think that playing a losing strategy like this and hoping that you'd win somehow is a good idea. If you think the match-up is broken, then take risks - cheese, all-in, whatever. At least lose with strategies that have the capability to win.
Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
January 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#1919
On January 31 2012 20:32 mcjinzo wrote:
just so im clear is every 2 base attack a allin? im confused. is it only not allin if they just sit back and keep taking bases? since when have strong timing attacks become automatic "all in"


if you lose a fair amt of probes and have no plans for an expo...yes it's an all-in.
Quadratic
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada249 Posts
January 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#1920
Huk, please don't go down in flames. I have a Liquidbet on you!
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