|
On January 20 2012 08:05 Ladnil wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 06:55 ssg wrote:On January 20 2012 06:41 TripTrip wrote:
It is just so hard to understand why this actually happens.
Sundance said on Twitter that the MLG dates have been set for ages. Then why keep it such a secret for soooo long and risk things like this happening? Do you think MLG gives a damn about what ASUS does? MLG knows that they are the much better run and much more popular league. They aren't going to let someone smaller than them affect what they do. It would be PR suicide for MLG to make a habit out of situations like this. It would just make them look like bullies, and SC2 fans would then cheer if an even bigger or more well funded bully like IPL comes along to muscle MLG out of a weekend. Plus, splitting the potential player and viewer pool is not ideal for anyone involved. For this first one, it's reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt that they locked in that date before they knew the ASUS date and as such were unable to accommodate it because let's face it, there are a ton of tournaments going on all the time right now.
Well they are doing it the 3rd time.. First time was with IEM NY. Second with the UK Lan that was IPL qualifier (always on the same date) and now this....
|
Yeah such a bad move by MLG. This is bad for everyone. Well done, MLG!
|
My mind can't handle watching 2 epic tournaments at a time.
|
Keep in mind that even if people talk, that doesn't mean their wont still be conflict. Acquiring the right venue well in advance of a date you want, only to find out there are conflicts, could mean completely reworking the schedule of every other event you have planned. While I'm sure many of the tournaments obviously want to avoid it, there will still be times, even with good communication, where there will be overlap.
|
I really hope there is better communication to prevent overlapping tournaments. Even between communities, I really don't want to have another MLG or any other major SC2 event the same weekend as EVO.
|
On January 21 2012 12:31 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Keep in mind that even if people talk, that doesn't mean their wont still be conflict. Acquiring the right venue well in advance of a date you want, only to find out there are conflicts, could mean completely reworking the schedule of every other event you have planned. While I'm sure many of the tournaments obviously want to avoid it, there will still be times, even with good communication, where there will be overlap.
Yes, but it definitely helps to at least try to talk things out. You can't avoid every conflict but right now it seems tournaments aren't even making the effort and as we've just seen, a major conflict has now occurred as a result.
|
I've always like the Assembly tourneys. For me, MLG will play second fiddle 
Edit: I've heard rumblings before of larger tourneys communicating regarding dates. I'd kind of be shocked if they didn't at least have each others' phone numbers.
|
Even though ASUS and MLG are competitors - it in their best interest to communicate concerning these kind of things. It goes beyond losing good players, it means there is an oversaturation in the market. Say you get every tournament in the world to schedule so their games never overlap but there is never a day in between the tournaments. Tournament A ends and then Tournament B begins as soon as it takes players from Tournament A to fly over and play. People will eventually get sick and tired of watching SC2 (as good as SC2 is!). It's not that they get sick of Starcraft specifically, but the viewer will suffer from fatigue and the hype required for tournaments to grow will not be given enough time to mature. For that reason alone, tournaments should share their schedules and notify them of changes.
|
Its for everyone's benefits to make sure that overlap does not occur. That way, in each tournament, the best players are at each tournament. If they overlap, each tournament losses some viewership as some people will watch one and not the other.
However, I think that can only be done for major events and not for prelims and the like.
|
On January 20 2012 06:34 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 06:30 ssg wrote:
Fuck an agreement. Let the best rise to the top. Competition is good for everyone. So you want the there to only be 2 or 3 major tournaments? Say GSL, IEM and MLG only? No more Dreamhack, HSC, Assembly, NASL (finals) and other various yearly/bi-yearly tournaments? Competition requires that there be multiple events. We've already seen major improvements production, competition and prize money due to each of these events trying to bring out something bigger and better. Let that continue with as little burden on the players (and fans) having to choose who to attend.
As if ANYONE rate IEM over Dreamhack lol.
|
I am watching ASUS RoG. Moon is there so I could care less about MLG this time around.
|
won't their schedules line up quite nicely though since they're on different continents. there should be enough good players for both. 24/7 sc2 ftw etc
|
All tournaments the size of MLG should definately all get together and discuss schedules. It's better for esports and it's better for the fans. The only tournament i think that should be excluded from this is GSL because the tournaments run so long so there is obviously going to be overlap somewhere.
|
This really sucks for players. Foreign (major) tournaments should be closely associated with each other regarding dates/venues. I really hope MLG and Assembly sort this matter out and I hope that this matter gets resolved. Nobody is a winner in these situations. Players as well as viewers have to choose between two high quality tournaments. T_T
|
This is a shame...it will reduce the quality of both tournaments of they happen in the same weekend because a lot of players will be missing from each tournament.
|
I dont understand how hard it can be to just get a conference call going. Some tournies are linked to major events, such as assembly and dreamhack. The other tournies should be able to be abit more flexible regarding dates. Maybe i live in a dream world:S
|
On January 20 2012 14:02 LorDo wrote:
JP said on SOTG that MLG had spoken to every other major tournament organizer, but missed ASUS ROG.
they "missed" Assembly ? Lol. I can understand if they miss Battle in Berlin, which was quite unknown, but missing Assembly ? Ahahahah
|
On January 20 2012 14:08 redviper wrote:
Since Moon is playing at Assembly I know I'll be watching that instead of MLG. Not even a close call really. Indeed, plus comfortable time for EU. ^^ dont wanna sit up until 4am every night.
|
It's kinda obvious that MLG wants to work against each other and not along each other. Was so funny when people said before MLG/IEM New York that they wanted to advertise the other tournament and stuff. Casters at IEM were talking about results from MLG and everyone at MLG really tried hard to not mention IEM at all.
|
I think MLG doesn't care at all.
Maybe this Sundance guy will tweet about it and everyone will be happy again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
