EPTASUS ROG - Open letter regarding major tournament - Page 2
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Kaoru
France150 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
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ssg
United States1777 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:41 TripTrip wrote: It is just so hard to understand why this actually happens. Sundance said on Twitter that the MLG dates have been set for ages. Then why keep it such a secret for soooo long and risk things like this happening? Do you think MLG gives a damn about what ASUS does? MLG knows that they are the much better run and much more popular league. They aren't going to let someone smaller than them affect what they do. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
Agreed. There's nothing wrong with keeping those dates from the public. However the major tournament organizers should have some amount of communication with each other about these events. (I know that the dates for Assembly winter have been "known" for several months already.) I also assume that MLG has made their reservations already several months ago also. I think this is an unfortunate situation and I'm a bit surprised it hasn't happened more often (GSL has done a good job of trying to keep their tournaments separate). I'm not quite sure how I feel about players withdrawing their commitments... =/ | ||
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caneras
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Wawa
United States215 Posts
it's gonna be very hard to persuade the big dog. especially at this point of the year where everyone is pretty much done with everything and just prepping up the announcement. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
So Please, please, please - with sugar on top: do the extra step and work together. Thanks A Fan. | ||
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TripTrip
United Kingdom52 Posts
Im sure that Assembly Winter '11 happened long before MLG decided they wanted to have their own winter event. How much time does it take for someone to think "Hmmm there was quite a large event in February 2011, maybe we should check with the team that organized it if they are hoping to do the same thing in 2012" And if they find out that there is, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for them to come to an agreement on who hosts their event on what weekend. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:55 ssg wrote: Do you think MLG gives a damn about what ASUS does? MLG knows that they are the much better run and much more popular league. They aren't going to let someone smaller than them affect what they do. How can u think like that, thats just dumb -,- actually, the ASUS tournaments were really, really good. they SHOULD care. doesnt matter, ill watch both anyway | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
I wonder what the lead time for booking the venues is. Seems like that would be a good time for a "soft" announcement of sorts. I mean, I doubt MLG booked the venue anywhere close to when they made their announcement. Same for ASUS. It's entirely likely that both were making plans and made the bookings around the same time. Either way, very mature, forward-looking post by the OP! | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
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Imascotsman
255 Posts
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
On January 20 2012 07:20 GeorgeForeman wrote: I wonder what the lead time for booking the venues is. Seems like that would be a good time for a "soft" announcement of sorts. I mean, I doubt MLG booked the venue anywhere close to when they made their announcement. Same for ASUS. Asus didn't "book" any venue. The starcraft tournament is played at a huge LAN party. Assembly (nowdays Assembly Summer) has been held since 1992, though Assembly Winter is a newer event. | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On January 20 2012 07:20 GeorgeForeman wrote: Bummer. I wonder what the lead time for booking the venues is. Seems like that would be a good time for a "soft" announcement of sorts. I mean, I doubt MLG booked the venue anywhere close to when they made their announcement. Same for ASUS. It's entirely likely that both were making plans and made the bookings around the same time. Either way, very mature, forward-looking post by the OP! Assembly announced their winter dates in August 2011. MLGLee (I think it was? Some high level MLG guy) posted in the MLG announcement thread that the MLG dates was set in autumn 2011 which sounds like after august 2011... So they "should" know the date of the 3rd biggest EU tournament. Same with IEM which gave dates in august too. But all this just means that Assembly wont have any US players, wont have any koreans and wont have any eu superstars (Naniwa, SaSe) some of the higher EU players might go to US if they qualify, but nobody want to go through open bracket. So it will kinda like MLG 2011, the only eu players who come is those in US teams, or who qualify and get paid travel, which is not what MLG really wants because they are missing a big customer base. Also those who says MLG does it to remove compition. I actually think it would be better for them to be in different weekends. Then every weekend there will be SC2. Most people don't watch every weekend, so they will choose the "biggest" tournaments, which is MLG. In this way, people first watch Assembly, and then MLG. Or some people who wouldn't watch Assembly will watch it, while waiting for MLG. Hence they might actually help assembly in viewer count that way... | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Hope you do sort out that schedule though, that's pretty nuts. | ||
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
If they dont do it, then this will create major problems with players/managers/teams because they cannot plan where to go. In the end when shit hit the fan then players will probably only attend events near where they reside so he travel costs are kept low (with prize moeny being still to low to make up the invest for 95% of attendees). Koreans will stick to stay in Korea (unless contracted by a foreign team), Europeans will stay in Europe and North America will only see the players which the big money can buy in. If this incident turns out to be a "MLG snipes ROG", then I personally as a consumer will surely enjoy the ROG, due to various reasons. Learn to release your dates 2-3 months ahead, if you are on of the big names. | ||
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Ladnil
United States93 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:55 ssg wrote: Do you think MLG gives a damn about what ASUS does? MLG knows that they are the much better run and much more popular league. They aren't going to let someone smaller than them affect what they do. It would be PR suicide for MLG to make a habit out of situations like this. It would just make them look like bullies, and SC2 fans would then cheer if an even bigger or more well funded bully like IPL comes along to muscle MLG out of a weekend. Plus, splitting the potential player and viewer pool is not ideal for anyone involved. For this first one, it's reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt that they locked in that date before they knew the ASUS date and as such were unable to accommodate it because let's face it, there are a ton of tournaments going on all the time right now. | ||
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Funkydonky
950 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
A forum for tournament organizers would be cool, and nice to see more cooperation. When you have tournaments conflict with one another, both lose in a way because viewership is not maximized, but divided. More cooperation between tournaments could also help reduce overhead costs, which could make tournaments more financially stable. | ||
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dubRa
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