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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 19 2012 23:54 GMT
#41
Wish there could've been more cooperation on this one.
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Inffi
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1 Post
January 19 2012 23:57 GMT
#42
On January 20 2012 07:20 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Bummer.

I wonder what the lead time for booking the venues is. Seems like that would be a good time for a "soft" announcement of sorts. I mean, I doubt MLG booked the venue anywhere close to when they made their announcement. Same for ASUS. It's entirely likely that both were making plans and made the bookings around the same time.

Either way, very mature, forward-looking post by the OP!


Well atleast for Assembly winters venue (kaapelitehdas @ Helsinki) it's probably around 12-14 months. That venue is probably in very high demand. As an organizer of another (smaller) event I suspect that they didn't have confirmation about the Asus tournament at that time. I definately agree that the event organizers should have more communication between each other but things like that makes it hard for us to communicate between each other about the tournaments.
Seanza
Profile Joined November 2011
171 Posts
January 20 2012 01:00 GMT
#43
I support the idea for a tournament organiser forum 100%. It's completely essential to make sure huge tournaments don't clash. Whilst we are all competitors in some form or another, we can all find common ground in the fact that we want to make sure the players don't miss out.
rabidbot
Profile Joined October 2011
United States48 Posts
January 20 2012 01:01 GMT
#44
I really hope this can get worked out. I don't think anyone wants to see tournaments stepping on each others toes, especially at this stage in the growth of esports.
Still the best game for spectators.
awha
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1358 Posts
January 20 2012 01:05 GMT
#45
On January 20 2012 06:30 ssg wrote:
Fuck an agreement. Let the best rise to the top. Competition is good for everyone.


no, just no.

grow the scene TOGETHER
itts
Profile Joined May 2011
United States20 Posts
January 20 2012 01:19 GMT
#46
A bunch of competitors getting together to avoid competition. That is kind of illegal under anti-trust laws.
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darcevader88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada648 Posts
January 20 2012 01:25 GMT
#47
why is it every american poster tries to act like helping each other is some kind of travesty? esports is a community, let's work on it together and see EVERYONE WHO IS SMART ENOUGH/LEGIT ENOUGH rise up and do well for themselves. why cut each others throats?

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rabidbot
Profile Joined October 2011
United States48 Posts
January 20 2012 01:34 GMT
#48
On January 20 2012 06:30 ssg wrote:
Fuck an agreement. Let the best rise to the top. Competition is good for everyone.



Horrible mentality. The scene is still small. I know its feels huge to us, but it isn't. Tourneys should be working together at this point to help grow esports as a whole. Competition is good, so lets try to keep as my tourneys open and going as possible.
Still the best game for spectators.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 20 2012 01:49 GMT
#49
On January 20 2012 06:51 Adebisi wrote:
I'm really curious if either tournament organizers actually tried to contact eachother when they had actually set their dates in stone but before they released them to the public. Clearly MLG comes off much worse here as Asus has had their dates out there for a while, but this is a two way street and things do get booked before they're announced.


I know for a fact that NASL and MLG communicate about our tournament dates so we don't conflict. We exchanged schedules in 2011 and will do so again this year. Don't know about others
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 01:52:49
January 20 2012 01:52 GMT
#50
On January 20 2012 10:49 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:51 Adebisi wrote:
I'm really curious if either tournament organizers actually tried to contact eachother when they had actually set their dates in stone but before they released them to the public. Clearly MLG comes off much worse here as Asus has had their dates out there for a while, but this is a two way street and things do get booked before they're announced.


I know for a fact that NASL and MLG communicate about our tournament dates so we don't conflict. We exchanged schedules in 2011 and will do so again this year. Don't know about others

Cool, thanks for chiming in Xeris ^^.

Really don't like seeing people jump down MLG's throat for anti-competitiveness, when really its a mutual problem, TBH because every major tournament has to go through Blizzard, I don't know why Blizzard doesn't take a bigger role here.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 20 2012 02:03 GMT
#51
On January 20 2012 10:25 darcevader88 wrote:
why is it every american poster tries to act like helping each other is some kind of travesty? esports is a community, let's work on it together and see EVERYONE WHO IS SMART ENOUGH/LEGIT ENOUGH rise up and do well for themselves. why cut each others throats?



Why is it every non-American poster takes what one American poster says and uses it to cast judgement on all Americans and assume we all share the same opinion in spite of the fact that many more Americans disagreed than agreed.

See I can do this too.
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
January 20 2012 02:05 GMT
#52
Oh my. This is just bad news for everyone. Please get together and try to prevent such thing in the future.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 20 2012 03:25 GMT
#53
On January 20 2012 11:03 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 10:25 darcevader88 wrote:
why is it every american poster tries to act like helping each other is some kind of travesty? esports is a community, let's work on it together and see EVERYONE WHO IS SMART ENOUGH/LEGIT ENOUGH rise up and do well for themselves. why cut each others throats?



Why is it every non-American poster takes what one American poster says and uses it to cast judgement on all Americans and assume we all share the same opinion in spite of the fact that many more Americans disagreed than agreed.

See I can do this too.

Because thats how stereotype works, tl must be the only forum where I can discuss without someone spamming "huehuehue" or "I report u, gib monie plix" every two days, because I'm brazillian.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 20 2012 03:41 GMT
#54
On January 20 2012 11:03 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 10:25 darcevader88 wrote:
why is it every american poster tries to act like helping each other is some kind of travesty? esports is a community, let's work on it together and see EVERYONE WHO IS SMART ENOUGH/LEGIT ENOUGH rise up and do well for themselves. why cut each others throats?



Why is it every non-American poster takes what one American poster says and uses it to cast judgement on all Americans and assume we all share the same opinion in spite of the fact that many more Americans disagreed than agreed.

See I can do this too.


I second this sentiment. Just because some random US guy says something ignorant, please don't lump the rest of us Americans with him.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 20 2012 04:35 GMT
#55
I don't understand the secrecy behind event dates in the first place. What competitive advantage is there to knowing each others dates? It's all in their best interest not to overlap with each other.
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Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
January 20 2012 04:39 GMT
#56
I am currently planning the Battle in Berlin 2012. But it is not possible for me until MLG 2012 dates are release and I doubt they will care about other tournaments except IEM, DH etc. which are "huge" instead of just "big", so it does not make sense for me at all to schedule something.

I actually feel quite lucky that I was able to get the Battle in Berlin 2011 on a weekend scheduled where no other big tournament was aheppening.


so i fully support this
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Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 04:54:30
January 20 2012 04:44 GMT
#57
On January 20 2012 10:19 itts wrote:
A bunch of competitors getting together to avoid competition. That is kind of illegal under anti-trust laws.


Lol no? anti-trust laws assume that someone (i.e. the general public) is losing out/being mis-treated in the confines of general Business. Why don't football seasons such as the Premier League in England and the Champions league clash when it comes to the important dates? Oh that's right it's mutually benefitial for literally EVERY party. Anti-trust laws (Or Competition Laws if you live outside of America) work extremely well in the confines of traditional business where products are being sold at a continual rate etc, so as to stop businesses working along-side one another for price-fixing or artificial monopolies - comparing anti-trust laws to this situation is way of out place.

I'd love to see someone complain/argue that having both tournaments on different dates is hurting someone or putting them out.
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GoldenGun
Profile Joined May 2011
United States49 Posts
January 20 2012 04:45 GMT
#58
Why don't you just go call one another, instead of making a forum...
Get over yourself.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 20 2012 04:56 GMT
#59
On January 20 2012 08:07 hrvoje07 wrote:
You are kidding yourselves if you think mlg cares about this, MLG doesn't suffer from this, only their competition.

What are you talking about ofcourse it affects both parties. It's going to split the players and the viewerbase.
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
January 20 2012 05:02 GMT
#60
JP said on SOTG that MLG had spoken to every other major tournament organizer, but missed ASUS ROG.
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