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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#1401
On January 19 2012 21:16 Yaki wrote:
TASTELESS, Y U NO FOLLOW CODE A ? NaDa fell to Code A last season


I don't think it should be considered falling to Code A if you make it straight back into Code S for the new season.

Falling to Code A is more like Huk who fell out of Code S and failed to make it back.

Consider it like double elimination, otherwise you only get 8 players a season who technically didn't fall to Code A.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
January 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#1402
Puzzles PvT looked pretty good in the last few games.
Have fun in code A Nada.
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
HeroUlyssess
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand46 Posts
January 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#1403
dropping down to Code A then going straight back to Code S is one season shouldn't really count as you being out of code S to be honest, in terms of consistency in GSL that is.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#1404
the nerd jokes are so dead, i mean , they were old like a month ago , now their rotting somewhere
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 19 2012 12:17 GMT
#1405
I see they arent pushing english casters to talk about hot6ix

For obvious reasons, obviously.
twitch.tv/medrea
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 12:18:55
January 19 2012 12:18 GMT
#1406
On January 19 2012 21:10 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I would have thought Pujjle was oversatured so that he could pull probes if necessary, no? Meh, maybe it was just a mistake.



Wow, Keen is going to go 0-4 I guess. Damn. Never understood the hype for him at all.


You can't bring your A game every time. He's definitely a good player but his group is actually kinda difficult considering NaDa's TvT is very strong and TvP is a pretty tricky matchup. Everyone knew Puzzle was going to be a fierce contender but Parting showed some solid PvT also.

ppl hyped keen to be championship-calibre, which he aint. If he couldnt get pass NaDa/Parting/Puzzle (all good enough for Ro8) then he has 0% against the like of mvp/Nestea/MMA. The trail has derailed, big time
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 19 2012 12:18 GMT
#1407
On January 19 2012 21:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:11 Nibbler89 wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:06 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yup. I <3 Zealot drops in PvT.

Terrans aren't used to dealing with them.


In late game, its very hard for terran to split his army, due to massive warp in reinforcements. Protoss can warp in a bunch of zealots into main, and terran either has to decide between pulling whole army and risking getting counter attacked or splitting army and possibly being forced to engage in two places when he will have to kite chargelots in two places at the same time which not even pro korean terrans can do consistently. If protoss loses the zealots in the terran main he can instantly warp them to the front line, whereas the terran units in the main have to run back. Warp prisms are also insanely fast with upgrade and decent hp now so if they are microd correctly you can't really ever kill them unlike blink stalker vs medivac.

I do think maybe having viking patrols to deny in late game will become more common but again, thats less vikings for collosus and warp prism are so fast they can probably avoid viking.



Or they could you know.... make turrets.

Yes, make 15 turrets to stop a single unit, because that's what you need in such huge maps when they have speed.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 19 2012 12:18 GMT
#1408
Well half of my predicted Season 1 final is already dead.

R.I.P Keen.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1409
On January 19 2012 21:16 Yaki wrote:
TASTELESS, Y U NO FOLLOW CODE A ? NaDa fell to Code A last season


He didn't completely fall down to code a, he started last season Code S, and ended last season with Code S.(after up and down)
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1410
TASTELESS, Y U NO FOLLOW CODE A ? NaDa fell to Code A last season


Actually, with the new format, I think you are only considered having 'fallen' to Code A if you end the season still in Code A. Otherwise, everyone not in the Top 8 would have considered to have 'fallen'.

MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1411
On January 19 2012 21:16 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:13 MorroW wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:10 Jono7272 wrote:
Late game TvP Not cool.

he was actually really behind all game long after losing 2 medivacs filled with units along with toss taking 3base so fast. he was 40 supply ahead in early midgame

puzzle didnt play so well so the game seemed fair and possible back and forth but in reality puzzle could have just killed him with a powerattack in the storm timing but he didnt. instead he made a weird fail attack while expanding so it even made less sense and after that it created a false illusion of exciting game

if u get 3base and get 40 supply ahead and kill a ton of terran units, make a warp prism and 5 extra gateways, stop make probes and upgrades and just go kill terran really. it annoys me how little toss adapts to their advantages they get

The game was almost over when KeeN prepared for a gateway allin and Puzzle took a fast fast third base imo.
What do you think Keen should have done better in order to not get mindgamed like that?
An alone marine hidden near Puzzle's third or something?

ya we will definetly see more hidden terran units in the future to scout out the 3rd base timing of protoss, since its gaining popularity of toss to take fast 3rd.
another big mistake he did was losing dual medivac and units killing nothing. when u see toss is prepared stay as long as you can and then run away when you realize your not cost effective anymore
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1412
Loving all the NaDa hype Oo
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Thombur
Profile Joined January 2012
95 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1413
On January 19 2012 21:11 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:06 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yup. I <3 Zealot drops in PvT.

Terrans aren't used to dealing with them.


In late game, its very hard for terran to split his army, due to massive warp in reinforcements. Protoss can warp in a bunch of zealots into main, and terran either has to decide between pulling whole army and risking getting counter attacked or splitting army and possibly being forced to engage in two places when he will have to kite chargelots in two places at the same time which not even pro korean terrans can do consistently. If protoss loses the zealots in the terran main he can instantly warp them to the front line, whereas the terran units in the main have to run back. Warp prisms are also insanely fast with upgrade and decent hp now so if they are microd correctly you can't really ever kill them unlike blink stalker vs medivac.

I do think maybe having viking patrols to deny in late game will become more common but again, thats less vikings for collosus and warp prism are so fast they can probably avoid viking. I actually think the scarier thing is protoss don't seem used to using them.

Splitting your army exactly right is usually protoss problem vs terran drops so I love the warp prism now being able to even things out a little bit, though vikings are faster unless warp prism has upgrade (which is still relatively rare). Both sensor and missile turrets should help a lot though.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1414
On January 19 2012 21:17 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:14 weiliem wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:10 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I would have thought Pujjle was oversatured so that he could pull probes if necessary, no? Meh, maybe it was just a mistake.



Wow, Keen is going to go 0-4 I guess. Damn. Never understood the hype for him at all.


You can't bring your A game every time. He's definitely a good player but his group is actually kinda difficult considering NaDa's TvT is very strong and TvP is a pretty tricky matchup. Everyone knew Puzzle was going to be a fierce contender but Parting showed some solid PvT also.

Partin did not show solid PvT, Parting vs NaDa were all BO wins, pretty lame actually.... While Puzzle played extremely solid late game PvT on the other hand

parting might have been ahead by builds and so in early games. but even knowing that he showed alot better play of protoss and understanding of the matchup imo

a mixture of creator and parting would be the best pvt to me. most toss players seem too afraid to take risks vs terrans or lack of basic understanding of pvt to use their advantages


Couldnt agree more, I love the way both Creator and parting play, they just dont gett bullied like the Toss did the whole summer.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1415
On January 19 2012 21:18 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:11 Nibbler89 wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:06 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yup. I <3 Zealot drops in PvT.

Terrans aren't used to dealing with them.


In late game, its very hard for terran to split his army, due to massive warp in reinforcements. Protoss can warp in a bunch of zealots into main, and terran either has to decide between pulling whole army and risking getting counter attacked or splitting army and possibly being forced to engage in two places when he will have to kite chargelots in two places at the same time which not even pro korean terrans can do consistently. If protoss loses the zealots in the terran main he can instantly warp them to the front line, whereas the terran units in the main have to run back. Warp prisms are also insanely fast with upgrade and decent hp now so if they are microd correctly you can't really ever kill them unlike blink stalker vs medivac.

I do think maybe having viking patrols to deny in late game will become more common but again, thats less vikings for collosus and warp prism are so fast they can probably avoid viking.



Or they could you know.... make turrets.

Yes, make 15 turrets to stop a single unit, because that's what you need in such huge maps when they have speed.



You just need to keep the Prisms out of your expansions that have Orbitals at them. The Planetaries can handle themselves.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1416
Puzzle's PvT is good but not great, if NaDa gets innovative he might take this one.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
January 19 2012 12:19 GMT
#1417
Atleast 1 more protoss in the GSL!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 19 2012 12:20 GMT
#1418
I think it would be better for the this season as a whole if Puzzle went through here, but if Nada shows some sick games here then I definitely don't mind seeing him through either.

I think Puzzle is quite handsome also, and I like his tongue micro.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 12:20:48
January 19 2012 12:20 GMT
#1419
On January 19 2012 21:14 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:10 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I would have thought Pujjle was oversatured so that he could pull probes if necessary, no? Meh, maybe it was just a mistake.



Wow, Keen is going to go 0-4 I guess. Damn. Never understood the hype for him at all.


You can't bring your A game every time. He's definitely a good player but his group is actually kinda difficult considering NaDa's TvT is very strong and TvP is a pretty tricky matchup. Everyone knew Puzzle was going to be a fierce contender but Parting showed some solid PvT also.

Partin did not show solid PvT, Parting vs NaDa were all BO wins, pretty lame actually.... While Puzzle played extremely solid late game PvT on the other hand

Yes, +1 armor starting at the 20 min mark, after being maxed out, extremely solid
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 19 2012 12:20 GMT
#1420
On January 19 2012 21:18 Fionn wrote:
Well half of my predicted Season 1 final is already dead.

R.I.P Keen.

Who's the other half?
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