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macros in tournament play

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BinaryAznMon
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada4 Posts
January 12 2012 17:07 GMT
#1
im just wondering if macro keys are allowed in tournament play, i have the sidewinder x4 keyboard and i have the first macro key to be shift+0 so i can add my bases to that hotkey without taking up space in the 1,2,3,4,5,6 region which is about the farthest i can reach, my second macro is the key 0 so i can easily access the end of the control group line without moving my hand away from the left side of the keyboard
ElvisWayCool
Profile Joined March 2010
United States437 Posts
January 12 2012 17:11 GMT
#2
I'm pretty sure any tournament would frown on macro keys. I can't speak for all of them, but I know if I ran a tourney it wouldn't allow them. There's just no way they can really find out...
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:16:29
January 12 2012 17:14 GMT
#3
Tournaments will 100% not allow macro keys where 2 commands are executed with 1 button press.

That being said, I'm not 100% sure but shift+0 may be a single command (check the SC2 hotkey remapping). Basically, "1 command to 1 key" is ok, but not "2 commands to 1 key". Thus, if you bound a "fake" key (e.g. f12) to that shift+0 hotkey and bound the macro key to f12, then it's fine.
Zio
Profile Joined October 2010
United States48 Posts
January 12 2012 17:20 GMT
#4
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 12 2012 17:26 GMT
#5
On January 13 2012 02:20 Zio wrote:
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).


the "official" starcraft 2 keyboard, razer marauder, has macro keys though doesnt it
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striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
January 12 2012 17:27 GMT
#6
On January 13 2012 02:20 Zio wrote:
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).


Blizzard actually sells their own macro keyboard designed for SC2
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 12 2012 17:29 GMT
#7
On January 13 2012 02:27 striderxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:20 Zio wrote:
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).


Blizzard actually sells their own macro keyboard designed for SC2

Yeah, it's definately ok to use in regular situations. In online tournaments, I think it would be hard to make sure nobody uses it, so I guess it's allowed there as well. I'm quite sure it's not allowed in big LANs though, which, given that those are the biggest tournaments, the top level players will primarily practice for those, and therefore they probably use non-macro keyboards in all situations to make sure that that's what they get their practice with.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:42:29
January 12 2012 17:40 GMT
#8
Macros are NOT allowed. However, re-bound keys are. You're on questionable territory (my guess is tourney illegal) creating a button for shift+0 (two key presses become one), but making any button on your keyboard "0" is fine (one key press becomes one button press). I've heard a few pros mention they've experimented with rebinding various keys on their keyboards so that hotkeys & F1 shortcuts are in convenient positions.

As an aside, I'm curious if one of MY shortcuts is legal. I made one of my mouse buttons a duplicate 'H' key (my shortcut for warpgates). Again, one key, one button press. But it's perhaps different from rebinding a keyboard key.

Also, Blizzard doesn't sell their own macro keyboard. Razer bought the SC2 license to plaster on some of their products. The existence of such products has nothing to do with what is considered kosher while playing SC2.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 12 2012 17:51 GMT
#9
You can rebind keys using the sc2 interface, you cant have more than 1 action (or keys being sent) per keystroke, and im pretty sure using external programs to rebind in a way not allowed inside of the starcraft 2 interface (and battle.net profiles tied to your account across computers) would be frowned upon
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
January 13 2012 03:45 GMT
#10
On January 13 2012 02:40 MisterFred wrote:
Macros are NOT allowed. However, re-bound keys are. You're on questionable territory (my guess is tourney illegal) creating a button for shift+0 (two key presses become one), but making any button on your keyboard "0" is fine (one key press becomes one button press). I've heard a few pros mention they've experimented with rebinding various keys on their keyboards so that hotkeys & F1 shortcuts are in convenient positions.

As an aside, I'm curious if one of MY shortcuts is legal. I made one of my mouse buttons a duplicate 'H' key (my shortcut for warpgates). Again, one key, one button press. But it's perhaps different from rebinding a keyboard key.

Also, Blizzard doesn't sell their own macro keyboard. Razer bought the SC2 license to plaster on some of their products. The existence of such products has nothing to do with what is considered kosher while playing SC2.

What you did (binding a mouse button to 'H') is perfectly legal and I'm 100% sure allowed in any tournament, including the GSL.

Why the OP may be a little confusing is because I'm think shift+0 is considered 1 button press in the hotkeys interface and hence it's legal to assign that to the macro key.
pepperman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
January 13 2012 03:55 GMT
#11
I would assume something like a Razer Naga also wouldn't be allowed, right?
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BinaryAznMon
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada4 Posts
January 15 2012 06:45 GMT
#12
I guess the better question is, is it strictly a button can only equal 1 key press or 1 command, because shift + 0 is technically 2 key presses but it is only 1 command...

ive never seen a player use a macro keyboard like i do where there are buttons set aside for macros, but i also dont kno how they refitted their keyboards to their liking....
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 15 2012 06:45 GMT
#13
1 button = 1 action. Anything else is widely considered cheating.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
January 15 2012 06:48 GMT
#14
On January 13 2012 12:55 pepperman wrote:
I would assume something like a Razer Naga also wouldn't be allowed, right?

it's fine, but again like everyone has said, it should be one button = one key. you can map any button on that naga to the "1" key but you can't do something like shift + space + 1.
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
January 15 2012 06:50 GMT
#15
It's all pretty legal. Frowned upon but legal.
Genetic
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada84 Posts
January 16 2012 16:02 GMT
#16
Lol this topic has awesome timing for me.

My gf just bought a new keyboard, Razer Black Widow, and the first thing she did was bind 4 + E to Macro 1. She puts nexus on 4, so now it's one click to que probes. Such cheaterage. She's bronze so I dont think anyone would care, but man, if a masters could utilize that kind of shortcut it would save so many extra clicks.

IMO it should be illegal, but oh well. Enjoy your macros man, I'm sure you can come up with some pretty sick ones.

Ex. Stim A-Click? As a Terran I thought it'd be cool anyways
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
January 16 2012 16:41 GMT
#17
Does anyone know if the razer naga is illegal?

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO

I mean it may sound a bit ridiculous but in theory one can have 12 extra control groups.
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
January 16 2012 16:57 GMT
#18
On January 17 2012 01:41 cydial wrote:
Does anyone know if the razer naga is illegal?

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO

I mean it may sound a bit ridiculous but in theory one can have 12 extra control groups.

Yeah the naga is legal but no you can't have 12 extra control groups. SC2 simply won't allow more then the regular 10 groups. There is no way to add additional ones no matter how many buttons you have. Also for some reason I was unable to bind a (shit+#) to any of the keys on my razer mouse while I was still able to bind regular numbers and letters and combinations thereof (none of which I found useful).
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