• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:20
CEST 01:20
KST 08:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th22Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue
Brood War
General
Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals Every Matchup's Top 5 Winrates (all ASLs & KSLs) BW General Discussion Very long shot - StarCraft x A7X video Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development streaming software
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2126 users

macros in tournament play

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
BinaryAznMon
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada4 Posts
January 12 2012 17:07 GMT
#1
im just wondering if macro keys are allowed in tournament play, i have the sidewinder x4 keyboard and i have the first macro key to be shift+0 so i can add my bases to that hotkey without taking up space in the 1,2,3,4,5,6 region which is about the farthest i can reach, my second macro is the key 0 so i can easily access the end of the control group line without moving my hand away from the left side of the keyboard
ElvisWayCool
Profile Joined March 2010
United States437 Posts
January 12 2012 17:11 GMT
#2
I'm pretty sure any tournament would frown on macro keys. I can't speak for all of them, but I know if I ran a tourney it wouldn't allow them. There's just no way they can really find out...
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:16:29
January 12 2012 17:14 GMT
#3
Tournaments will 100% not allow macro keys where 2 commands are executed with 1 button press.

That being said, I'm not 100% sure but shift+0 may be a single command (check the SC2 hotkey remapping). Basically, "1 command to 1 key" is ok, but not "2 commands to 1 key". Thus, if you bound a "fake" key (e.g. f12) to that shift+0 hotkey and bound the macro key to f12, then it's fine.
Zio
Profile Joined October 2010
United States48 Posts
January 12 2012 17:20 GMT
#4
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).
It's about to get heavy!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 12 2012 17:26 GMT
#5
On January 13 2012 02:20 Zio wrote:
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).


the "official" starcraft 2 keyboard, razer marauder, has macro keys though doesnt it
beep boop
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
January 12 2012 17:27 GMT
#6
On January 13 2012 02:20 Zio wrote:
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).


Blizzard actually sells their own macro keyboard designed for SC2
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 12 2012 17:29 GMT
#7
On January 13 2012 02:27 striderxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:20 Zio wrote:
I don't even think macro keys are allowed on ladder (not that blizzard can really enforce it).


Blizzard actually sells their own macro keyboard designed for SC2

Yeah, it's definately ok to use in regular situations. In online tournaments, I think it would be hard to make sure nobody uses it, so I guess it's allowed there as well. I'm quite sure it's not allowed in big LANs though, which, given that those are the biggest tournaments, the top level players will primarily practice for those, and therefore they probably use non-macro keyboards in all situations to make sure that that's what they get their practice with.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:42:29
January 12 2012 17:40 GMT
#8
Macros are NOT allowed. However, re-bound keys are. You're on questionable territory (my guess is tourney illegal) creating a button for shift+0 (two key presses become one), but making any button on your keyboard "0" is fine (one key press becomes one button press). I've heard a few pros mention they've experimented with rebinding various keys on their keyboards so that hotkeys & F1 shortcuts are in convenient positions.

As an aside, I'm curious if one of MY shortcuts is legal. I made one of my mouse buttons a duplicate 'H' key (my shortcut for warpgates). Again, one key, one button press. But it's perhaps different from rebinding a keyboard key.

Also, Blizzard doesn't sell their own macro keyboard. Razer bought the SC2 license to plaster on some of their products. The existence of such products has nothing to do with what is considered kosher while playing SC2.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20328 Posts
January 12 2012 17:51 GMT
#9
You can rebind keys using the sc2 interface, you cant have more than 1 action (or keys being sent) per keystroke, and im pretty sure using external programs to rebind in a way not allowed inside of the starcraft 2 interface (and battle.net profiles tied to your account across computers) would be frowned upon
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
January 13 2012 03:45 GMT
#10
On January 13 2012 02:40 MisterFred wrote:
Macros are NOT allowed. However, re-bound keys are. You're on questionable territory (my guess is tourney illegal) creating a button for shift+0 (two key presses become one), but making any button on your keyboard "0" is fine (one key press becomes one button press). I've heard a few pros mention they've experimented with rebinding various keys on their keyboards so that hotkeys & F1 shortcuts are in convenient positions.

As an aside, I'm curious if one of MY shortcuts is legal. I made one of my mouse buttons a duplicate 'H' key (my shortcut for warpgates). Again, one key, one button press. But it's perhaps different from rebinding a keyboard key.

Also, Blizzard doesn't sell their own macro keyboard. Razer bought the SC2 license to plaster on some of their products. The existence of such products has nothing to do with what is considered kosher while playing SC2.

What you did (binding a mouse button to 'H') is perfectly legal and I'm 100% sure allowed in any tournament, including the GSL.

Why the OP may be a little confusing is because I'm think shift+0 is considered 1 button press in the hotkeys interface and hence it's legal to assign that to the macro key.
pepperman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
January 13 2012 03:55 GMT
#11
I would assume something like a Razer Naga also wouldn't be allowed, right?
Mun Seong-Won!
BinaryAznMon
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada4 Posts
January 15 2012 06:45 GMT
#12
I guess the better question is, is it strictly a button can only equal 1 key press or 1 command, because shift + 0 is technically 2 key presses but it is only 1 command...

ive never seen a player use a macro keyboard like i do where there are buttons set aside for macros, but i also dont kno how they refitted their keyboards to their liking....
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 15 2012 06:45 GMT
#13
1 button = 1 action. Anything else is widely considered cheating.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
January 15 2012 06:48 GMT
#14
On January 13 2012 12:55 pepperman wrote:
I would assume something like a Razer Naga also wouldn't be allowed, right?

it's fine, but again like everyone has said, it should be one button = one key. you can map any button on that naga to the "1" key but you can't do something like shift + space + 1.
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
January 15 2012 06:50 GMT
#15
It's all pretty legal. Frowned upon but legal.
Genetic
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada84 Posts
January 16 2012 16:02 GMT
#16
Lol this topic has awesome timing for me.

My gf just bought a new keyboard, Razer Black Widow, and the first thing she did was bind 4 + E to Macro 1. She puts nexus on 4, so now it's one click to que probes. Such cheaterage. She's bronze so I dont think anyone would care, but man, if a masters could utilize that kind of shortcut it would save so many extra clicks.

IMO it should be illegal, but oh well. Enjoy your macros man, I'm sure you can come up with some pretty sick ones.

Ex. Stim A-Click? As a Terran I thought it'd be cool anyways
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
January 16 2012 16:41 GMT
#17
Does anyone know if the razer naga is illegal?

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO

I mean it may sound a bit ridiculous but in theory one can have 12 extra control groups.
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
January 16 2012 16:57 GMT
#18
On January 17 2012 01:41 cydial wrote:
Does anyone know if the razer naga is illegal?

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO

I mean it may sound a bit ridiculous but in theory one can have 12 extra control groups.

Yeah the naga is legal but no you can't have 12 extra control groups. SC2 simply won't allow more then the regular 10 groups. There is no way to add additional ones no matter how many buttons you have. Also for some reason I was unable to bind a (shit+#) to any of the keys on my razer mouse while I was still able to bind regular numbers and letters and combinations thereof (none of which I found useful).
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
19:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Gerald vs MindelVK
goblin vs TBD
Jumy vs HonMonO
SteadfastSC129
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft725
ZombieGrub131
SteadfastSC 129
uThermal 90
JuggernautJason54
SpeCial 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 556
NaDa 18
Dota 2
capcasts124
Counter-Strike
summit1g14089
tarik_tv3794
Doublelift3205
Fnx 1411
minikerr8
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King117
PPMD57
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1564
Day[9].tv467
C9.Mang0242
ViBE124
JimRising 88
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick576
Counter-Strike
PGL183
Other Games
BasetradeTV179
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 105
• RyuSc2 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21353
Other Games
• Day9tv467
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
40m
Maestros of the Game
13h 40m
Big Brain Bouts
16h 40m
Shino vs Scarlett
Bly vs DnS
Serral vs ByuN
Replay Cast
1d
RSL Revival
1d 7h
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
1d 11h
IPSL
1d 16h
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
BSL
1d 19h
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Disclosure: This page contains affiliate marketing links that support TLnet.

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.