On January 15 2012 11:44 5unrise wrote: Ganzi is really good at comebacks, he was down 1-3 against kas as well and went on to wint he next 4 games.
Well, if he played from the SlayerS house I'm sure he got all the help in the world he needed...
yeah I mean he can get boxer to play 1 game and then MMA to play another. Only after they lose 3 games does he actually start playing LOL
May not be out of the realm of possibility that they give some of their newbies a chance to play first.
would make sense, but i doubt slayers would take this kind of risk. keep in mind that every player has a unique style of hotkeying his units and production facilities and also a particular playstyle. from the replays, it would be very easy do catch them if they would let someone else than ganzi play...
Pretty unsurprising result. Ganzi is fine with TvT and TvZ, but TvP is pretty clearly his weakness (he has a 36% winrate against Tosses according to TLPD). However, he's still a Code S player, so despite that being his weakest matchup, he went out 4-5 against one of EU's best Protosses in that Protoss's strongest matchup. WP by Mana nonetheless, happy to see 1-1-1s getting crushed.
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote: MaNa has really, really good PvT.
GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.
SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss. MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.
It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.
Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.
Tell that to Gatored.
I don't know why people make bad posts like this bringing up the one piece of evidence they have when there's so much evidence to the contrary.
lol. What evidence is there to the contrary? Please tell me.
By the way, I have far more than one piece of evidence.
It's a terrible post because it's such a completely redundant piece of information. What is your point? That Ganzi has lost vs a foreign player? Yeah, no shit he's not able to have a 100% record vs foreigners, what a terrible player Ganzi must be. He's got a 68% overall win rate on TLPD (higher than any non Korean player) but nevermind because he lost to Gatored once in a best of three so Mana has got this no problem, right? Code S for multiples seasons? Yeah, what's that this is Mana we're talking about here he's a PvT god.
As for Mana, well he's a beast he beat Puma once at IEM, didn't you all see what a boss mode PvT he has? He beat Puma online once too, god he's so good PvT.
Nevermind that Mana has lost PvT's in the last six months to Polt, TOP, Bomber, Yoda and Puma because I'm just going to blind fanboy foreign players and bring up any and all examples of the foreigner winning without mentioning at all any of the times he loses, even if they completely outweigh the wins.
Mana might win this, he might not but even with lag he is up against a Code S player who has a legitimate claim to be amongst the 10 best players in the world. Mana would scrape his way into the top 50 at best.
YoDa, PuMa, Bomber, Polt and TOP are all a lot better at TvP than GanZi. They don't outweigh his impressive wins at all. Plus I never said GanZi was terrible, he's great TvT and a fucking monster TvZ. Gatored and MaNa both have really good PvT, far better than GanZi's TvP. If you're going to bring up all the players MaNa has lost to PvT, then I can bring up all the players GanZi has lost to TvP. It's a long list. He's beaten HuK and KiWiKaKi, but that's the only time he's beaten anyone who doesn't suck in a TvP. MaNa has beaten equivalent better players than HuK and KiWiKaKi PvT.
By the way, I like how you accuse me of being a foreigner fanboy. Yeah, no. Calling someone a fanboy because you can't sway them with your argument is the worst thing you can do.
Don't worry, though. We're all wrong sometimes.
Calling Mana's PvT better than Ganzi's is frankly laughable and certainly not based on evidence.
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