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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
January 07 2012 16:30 GMT
#1821
On January 08 2012 01:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:28 Kevan wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:27 Treziel wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Lann555 wrote:

Koreans train 24/7 365 days a week


Korean's have time travel, that is why they are so damn good!

Don't worry, we have HuK, Naniwa and Sase practicing as much as the Koreans. There is still hope.


But only Naniwa is a force to rekon in Korea.

His GSL record is pretty sick
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 07 2012 16:31 GMT
#1822
On January 08 2012 01:27 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:24 Hemula wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:23 MrCash wrote:
Koreans are still dominating.
Here I was hoping 2012 would be different.
I suppose we do still have 11.5 months...

Those aren't the best koreans. I think it will be the same even after a year.


I would argue that MC is among the best of what the Protoss race has to offer.
There are better Terrans than MKP, but not many (like 4-5?), and namely because of their TvT.

This is pretty much true. MKP's vZ is only really below MMA, MVP, maybe Bomber. But they are all just much better at TvT. Loosing to MC and MKP isn't embarrassing as Zerg, they are both great at the matchup.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 07 2012 16:31 GMT
#1823
On January 08 2012 01:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:28 Kevan wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:27 Treziel wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Lann555 wrote:

Koreans train 24/7 365 days a week


Korean's have time travel, that is why they are so damn good!

Don't worry, we have HuK, Naniwa and Sase practicing as much as the Koreans. There is still hope.


But only Naniwa is a force to rekon in Korea.


Seriously, NaNi's practice regime is borderline unhealthy :< streaming and laddering till like 8 AM Korean time. He must have the most fucked up sleep schedule known to man.
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
January 07 2012 16:31 GMT
#1824
On January 08 2012 01:29 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:26 Alpino wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Malinor wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:23 -Strider- wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:21 PoP wrote:
Stephano looks way, way worse than a couple weeks/months ago :/

His style got figured out


One could definitely say that. But I agree with Pop here, Stephano is also just not playing as well as he did a couple of months ago. In the end it is probably a combination of both.


He played really well in Blizzard Cup and in the KR ladder.


If anything the Blizzard Cup combined with this game showed that this infestor/ling style in ZvT is as good as dead. MVP hardcountered it, MKP just did the same.

Stephano is suffering from the same thing Idra (and MKP) suffered from, being way too predictable.


Yeah, infestor/ling is not so great when you blow 3k/3k to absolutely useless ultras at the most critical part of the game, that get hard countered by 3 marauders and never even hit anything.
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
January 07 2012 16:31 GMT
#1825
On January 08 2012 01:29 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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On January 08 2012 01:24 Grettin wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:22 Lann555 wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:21 PoP wrote:
Stephano looks way, way worse than a couple weeks/months ago :/


I think he lost the advantage of being a relative unknown. Koreans take him serious now and obviously studied his style. The honeymoon is over for Stephano and now we will see if he can bounce back


As expected, tbh.


You know, it sorta reminds me of a certain MKP. There was a time when he was "figured out", yet now he's bounced back!

Can stephano re-think his playstyle and bounce back, too? I dunno


Does he even want to bounce back ?
He said he cant handle playing a long time starcraft like koreans do, thats why he left Korea thinking he reached his plateau there. He even said he wont go back to Korea and that this tournament was a decider in his future as a progamer.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1826
On January 08 2012 01:30 Hemula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:26 Malinor wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Hemula wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:23 MrCash wrote:
Koreans are still dominating.
Here I was hoping 2012 would be different.
I suppose we do still have 11.5 months...

Those aren't the best koreans. I think it will be the same even after a year.


Marineking and MC are as Code S as you can be in my opinion. And Sound just seems extremely good, although unproven until now.
Though I agree with you, I expect a sad year for foreigners. Last Dreamhack and NASL already pointed in that direction.

Well I agree with you about MC and MK but the others... Not as good.

jyp is good vz and vp. sound needs to work on his marine micro but his macro is good. he went through a very tough korean qualifier to get here. real looked good as well. i want to see more of him
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Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1827
2 canons in dimaga nat
BSOD
Celloist
Profile Joined June 2011
447 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1828
grubby poor decision so early
The Messiah Cometh!
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1829
On January 08 2012 01:30 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:28 Kevan wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:27 Treziel wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Lann555 wrote:

Koreans train 24/7 365 days a week


Korean's have time travel, that is why they are so damn good!

Don't worry, we have HuK, Naniwa and Sase practicing as much as the Koreans. There is still hope.


But only Naniwa is a force to rekon in Korea.

His GSL record is pretty sick


Name one ( 1, ONE) foreign player that beat Nestea and MVP in the same day.

Don't care about his GSL record at this moment.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1830
There may be more foreigners at this tournament but very few of them have actually proved that they can take out Koreans in major tournaments so it's not really that surprising to see korea dominating...

Just some of the favorite foreigners not playing up to their level it seems, like Ret and Stephano escpecially..


Gogogo remaining foreingers! I'm rooting for you ! And if you could take out MarineKing and MC soon so they have more time to cast that'd be sweet too ;D
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1831
On January 08 2012 01:30 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:26 Alpino wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Malinor wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:23 -Strider- wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:21 PoP wrote:
Stephano looks way, way worse than a couple weeks/months ago :/

His style got figured out


One could definitely say that. But I agree with Pop here, Stephano is also just not playing as well as he did a couple of months ago. In the end it is probably a combination of both.


He played really well in Blizzard Cup and in the KR ladder.

I cannot speak about ladder. Blizzard Cup was decent, but his decision making in his game against MC back then was already off (after the first wave of his roach/ling all-in).

I still don't doubt that Stephano is at the same level of the koreans. But there are just so many of them It's like Timo Boll against China in table tennis. At least in this HSC, Stephano is not playing well.

i think nerchio's play looks the cleanest out of all the zergs at HSC so far
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1832
On January 08 2012 01:13 Defacer wrote:
Wow ... 38,000 viewers for a tournament with a tiny prize pool and held in someone's home.

Your move, NASL.


you call 20000$ tiny ? are you drunk ? oO
love esports - hate homophobia
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#1833
Had to go out for a while, anyone want to give me a quick summary of MKP vs Steph?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1834
On January 08 2012 01:32 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:30 0ne wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:28 Kevan wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:27 Treziel wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Lann555 wrote:

Koreans train 24/7 365 days a week


Korean's have time travel, that is why they are so damn good!

Don't worry, we have HuK, Naniwa and Sase practicing as much as the Koreans. There is still hope.


But only Naniwa is a force to rekon in Korea.

His GSL record is pretty sick


Name one ( 1, ONE) foreign player that beat Nestea and MVP in the same day.

Don't care about his GSL record at this moment.

just him but haypro was oh so close
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1835
On January 08 2012 01:30 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:28 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
french guys... lol


How to make an anglophone uncomfortable:

Touch him.


Good touch or bad touch?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1836
On January 08 2012 01:32 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:13 Defacer wrote:
Wow ... 38,000 viewers for a tournament with a tiny prize pool and held in someone's home.

Your move, NASL.


you call 20000$ tiny ? are you drunk ? oO


He doesn't know how much most MLGs have,
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1837
On January 08 2012 01:29 ChriS-X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:28 Siphonn wrote:
Grubby is the best looking progamer, no homo.

marineking begs to differ


MKP is the cutest progamer. Not the best looking
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1838
On January 08 2012 01:32 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 01:30 0ne wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:28 Kevan wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:27 Treziel wrote:
On January 08 2012 01:24 Lann555 wrote:

Koreans train 24/7 365 days a week


Korean's have time travel, that is why they are so damn good!

Don't worry, we have HuK, Naniwa and Sase practicing as much as the Koreans. There is still hope.


But only Naniwa is a force to rekon in Korea.

His GSL record is pretty sick


Name one ( 1, ONE) foreign player that beat Nestea and MVP in the same day.

Don't care about his GSL record at this moment.

Nestea played like garbage the whole weekend though...he lost to haypro. His GSL record shows that either they played like crap or Naniwa can't even come close to consistently playing that level.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1839
feel bad for socke
was surprised by his cast yesterday he sounds wise beyond his years despite having that deathmetal look :p
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#1840
On January 08 2012 01:32 Asha` wrote:
Had to go out for a while, anyone want to give me a quick summary of MKP vs Steph?

MKP playing standard, Steph playing terrible, simple as that really.
It appears I have been chosen.
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