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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#701
Great counter attack from Losira.
MKP's screwed now.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#702
On January 02 2012 19:23 dmnum wrote:
Lol losira stopping a bunker rush, MADNESS

all great maps start with cheese
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Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#703
the caster is so boring today
NrG.Kvz
Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#704
If MKP had just walled in after that push, he would be worlds ahead...
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#705
omg something was flying!
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#706
Soooooo greedy making that CC at the natural. It's such an advantage to be able to build it safely in your base (and even use it to help wall). :-/
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#707
On January 02 2012 19:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 19:18 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:16 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:13 Seeker wrote:
Is it just me or...... has TOP gotten better? : ]


I don't think TOP was ever 'bad'. People may have just expected too much from him after his run to the finals and he hasn't lived up to that but he's still a solid player. He was thrown into a pretty hard group (CoCa/Supernova/Alive are all good at XvT) and then had to versus PartinG in his Ro48 match.

It's still funny to see people say CoCa is good vT


CoCa is 10-3 in ZvT (excluding Byun incident), beating MKP/Taeja/theStC/Bomber and losing only to Happy who has 85% TvZ win ratio. So yeah, I'd say he has pretty good ZvT.

He's certainly good in ZvT now, but it used to be common knowledge that he was pretty bad at the matchup.
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#708
On January 02 2012 19:24 bittman wrote:
omg something was flying!

It's space shark!
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#709
is it me or does Wolf have something against mules today
he's very passive aggressive about the subject ...every...single...game
lol
moo...for DRG
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#710
That space shark is so cool :o
Revolutionist fan
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#711
Is is that hard to use your Supply Depots as a wall, especially if you go for this kind of proxy 2 rax opening? Geez, the way they (don't) think hurts my brain sometimes.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#712
Losira survived a bunker rush! now the game is over for MKP!
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#713
On January 02 2012 19:21 Seeker wrote:
MKP
vs
LosirA

on ESV Cloud Kingdom

MKP at top right

LosirA at bottom left

First 5 minutes
MKP opens with double proxy rax XD

Unfortunately LosirA scouts it :/
LosirA doing a great job of pressuring the scv of MKP's that is building the rax

MKP moves in to pressure but LosirA's drones already have great placement to defend
MKP micros around
MKP adds scvs to his marine army

LosirA starting a spine crawler
LosirA now has lings out

MKP still trying to put on pressure but LosirA is defending like a baws

LosirA's spine crawler finishes

MKP now contemplating his next move

5 - 10 minutes

MKP decides to move his units to the back of LosirA's natural rather than push straight on
MKP with great position, hitting LosirA's hatchery

LosirA moves in with his lings and cleans out MKP's army however before MKP can kill the hatch
LosirA counters with speed lings to MKP's base

MKP holds but LosirA dealing SIGNIFICANT dmg

LosirA sending more and more lings

MKP has another CC up but he is losing too many marines and scvs

LosirA has grabbed the full on advantage
LosirA in INCREDIBLE position

MKP fights off LosirA's aggression but MKP is behind economically
MKP decides to move out with his small marine army to....... (God knows what he's thinking)

LosirA now spreading creep and getting 1 more spine for defense
LosirA getting gas from all 4 extractors

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Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#714
" look at his supply". sorry wolf i can't see in 240 P.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#715
On January 02 2012 19:24 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 19:24 bittman wrote:
omg something was flying!

It's space shark!


Oh god nowhere is safe!
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
frantic.cactus
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 10:26:31
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#716
On January 02 2012 19:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Wolf seems out of it lol

Maybe lonely


well he IS the LoneWolf

Terran it up since 2007
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#717
Btw, new maps are awesome. Why aren't they in GSL?
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#718
On January 02 2012 19:24 Severian wrote:
Soooooo greedy making that CC at the natural. It's such an advantage to be able to build it safely in your base (and even use it to help wall). :-/

He's always like that...Super greedy or super aggressive.
Today he went both.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 02 2012 10:25 GMT
#719
On January 02 2012 19:19 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 19:15 Hassybaby wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:13 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:11 Jehct wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:06 Hassybaby wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:00 Hassybaby wrote:
On January 02 2012 18:59 Inflicted_ wrote:
Idra-style GG xD. So Hassybaby, you still wondering why Antiga Shipyard in TvZ favored?


There's no such thing as race favoured maps, only player favoured maps. I'm impressed TOP beat Leencok on a Leencok favoured map



That's ridiculous and untrue.

Jungle basin/steppes are obviously not good maps for zerg. DQ, same story. List goes on and on and on and on.


Should rephrase

There's CURRENTLY no map that's race favoured. Every problem people claim a map has is solved in some way through adjustment on the map. I can concede Shattered Temple, but other maps are either pretty balanced overall, or there have not been enough games to say if the map is balanced or not.

That argument is totally ridiculous. Regardless of how many matches have been broadcasted, thousands of games have been played on these maps. If there's a general consensus among Korean pros as to what maps are good for each race, there's likely some degree of imbalance.

Also, what about maps like Crossfire? There have been enough broadcasted games to know it isn't exactly balanced.


But Hassy's right in that it is only favored due to their playstyle. If both races play their 'standard' style, then Terran would be much more favored on a map like Antiga Shipyard, but if the Zerg decides to play aggressive, then the map-style of Antiga Shipyard can be pretty favorable to them.


And you've nailed my point exactly. The only reason people cry about map balance is because their playstyles don't work on the map. Guess what. You have to change depending on what map you're playing.

Its the same stupid crying that people did when their compositions didn't work vs a race, and they cried balance. You ahve to adapt to the environment, and that is definitely the case for maps.

...So Dual Sight doesn't favour zerg PvZ, protoss should just never take a third? You can adapt your playstyle all you like - a X-favoured map still favours the race who didn't have to change their gameplan.

If DRG's roach/baneling with drops (for example) is a good way to play Antiga every game, he'd do it every game (as would others). Cute builds have their place, and they can be a great response to difficult maps, but that doesn't change who the map favours =/


Terrible example, considering after the change, Protoss have a massive lead in PvZ on Dual Sight. And that change had nothing to do with PvZ since it was removing the gold base. Shock, something else happened: the Protoss adjusted and started winning a lot
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Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 02 2012 10:26 GMT
#720
Such a sexy looking map. I feel like eating some mushrooms all of a sudden.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
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