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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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gedatsu
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Well, I'm happy the terrans are out. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote: If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game. I'm with you. I think he messed up there. But the conspiracy theories will float around anyways. I hope Gom looks at this slightly more carefully from now on. Team-mates and affiliates should play first. | ||
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Mainland
Canada551 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:29 ZAiNs wrote: I got a sick idea. Make all players play all their group stage games simultaneously. All GOM needs is more casters. I'd be really interested to see Inca DT rush in 4 matches at the same time. Or just have the last two sets played at the same time. That is what FIFA does in their tournaments. They play the final group stage games at the same time so teams don't know automatically if they're in or not. | ||
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote: If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game. Actually, this is exactly the way to throw a game while making the illusion that you're trying to win. Do everything right and then do one "small mistake" that people can argue over whether it was a mistake or not. If he did what you suggested it would be a lot more obvious that he is not trying to win. I'll say it again - In the end, the problem is with the format. Fix the format and all will be fine. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:29 Shellshock1122 wrote: When was the last time we had a LR thread where there wasnt an accusation of throwing a game? pre blizzcon? Oh you better prepare yourself. With this Naniwa case suddenly everyone will say x was throwing a match and didn't get banned while naniwa did. This will go on for at least a month unless mods do something. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote: If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game. Man he built 6 gateways despite knowing that he would never be able to make use of them, what else do you need to know ? Every decent protoss would have re-walled. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:31 gullberg wrote: Don't you guys remember that Inca has the most terrible PvZ ever? It's impossible to make that call. PvZ has nothing to do with it. It was a wall off that he saw coming for 40 seconds. Then instead of walling off again and killing Zenio's roach/lings with his void rays, he builds like four gateways for whatever reason. | ||
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eleaf
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote: If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game. Perhaps we are overestimating Inca. Maybe he just is that bad. But even if you are going to throw a game, its good to scout. Just like when u want to win, u want to counter what opponent is doing. When u want to lose, u want to play in to the hands of the opponent. In both cases its good to know what opponent is doing. | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:31 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's actually a perfectly good way to lose a game. "HEY ZENIO IS GOING FOR A ROACH LING ALL IN! BETTER BUILD LIKE 5 CANNONS AND HAVE THEM ALL POWERED BY A SINGLE PYLON!! WINK WINK" *Zenio still almost fails because he's not good enough to target an Artosis pylon* "HEY BETTER NOT WALL OFF MY RAMP SO HIS ZERGLINGS CAN KEEP REINFORCING! I PROBABLY SHOULDNT GET ANY SENTRIES EITHER, JUST IN CASE WINK WINK" While I can see how it might have been an oversight, I find it hard to believe that InCa doesn't play with BuildGrid on, and just HAPPENS to leave a gap in the wall he JUST reinforced with 5 cannons (all powered by a single pylon) He got sentries... he just failed hard with them | ||
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leungwk01
United Kingdom1260 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:30 XRaDiiX wrote: Yeah true not much you can do about the format right?. Is GOM changing this format in 2012 for Up/downs? Funny thing is GOM changed the format to this because people thought it would be much better to play everyone in their groups rather than a single or two bo3. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:30 MCDayC wrote: Yeah, this. Unfortunately, Inca is just terrible. And Code S! Maybe he didn't think Zenio would go for such an obvious strategy, there was no decent way to lose the game after scouting it really. I am not saying he threw the game but that argument doesn't hold. | ||
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:32 Assirra wrote: Oh you better prepare yourself. With this Naniwa case suddenly everyone will say x was throwing a match and didn't get banned while naniwa did. This will go on for at least a month unless mods do something. difference is that the koreans are smart enough to make it look like they tried. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On December 21 2011 21:31 Fionn wrote: Or just have the last two sets played at the same time. That is what FIFA does in their tournaments. They play the final group stage games at the same time so teams don't know automatically if they're in or not. Just keep them in the booths so they don't know how many games their opponent won/lost? | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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