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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 21 2011 12:28 GMT
#2261
Dont give me the "he needs 100% focus to defend". I meet semi-drunk tos in my diamond league who still knows that blocking units from coming in is n1 prio.
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
December 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#2262
The difference is Inca is smart enough to make it look like a mistake.

User was temp banned for this post.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#2263
It doesn't matter whether or not he intentionally threw the game or didn't play at his best because he was already through even if he lost, what matters is that because of the format he could.

It's a bad format that is unfair to the players who don't get to face an opponent who may or may not give it their best because they're already through, and it's a bad format because it gives incentive for matchmaking (that doesn't have to planned) when a player who is already through faces a friend or teammate.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#2264
On December 21 2011 21:28 eXNewB wrote:
check this out

[image loading]


Oh god -.-
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
December 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#2265
so what even if it was on purpose? EZ solution for Polt and Losira, they should've won vs inCa

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#2266
When was the last time we had a LR thread where there wasnt an accusation of throwing a game? pre blizzcon?
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 12:31:14
December 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#2267
I got a sick idea. Make all players play all their group stage games simultaneously. All GOM needs is more casters. I'd be really interested to see Inca DT rush in 4 matches at the same time.

Seriously though, when Naniwa threw his game he didn't care about the outcome at all, and you can't give it 100% if you don't care, but Inca did care, he WANTED to lose, you can't give it anywhere near 100% when you want to lose...
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2268
This is what makes GSL so silly,
A game MUST have meaning for both sides.
Players that lose early meaningful matches can win because they win later meaningless matches.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 12:30:26
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2269
On December 21 2011 21:28 akalarry wrote:
if inca was really going to throw a game, why would he do it in that fashion that would make people suspcious. these guys aren't retards. inca is just THAT bad. feel like you guys just started watching the gsl last season.


yeah. it's too obvious. people forget inca dt rushed 4 games in a row in the gsl finals, i bet he was throwing those too.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2270
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote:
If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game.

Yeah, this. Unfortunately, Inca is just terrible. And Code S!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2271
On December 21 2011 21:28 eXNewB wrote:
check this out

[image loading]


Iono about that. Why english?

If it's true though then -_-
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2272
Yeah true not much you can do about the format right?. Is GOM changing this format in 2012 for Up/downs?
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2273
On December 21 2011 21:29 ZAiNs wrote:
I got a sick idea. Make all players play all their group stage games simultaneously. All GOM needs is more casters. I'd be really interested to see Inca DT rush in 4 matches at the same time.


Would just make the DT rushes more efficient
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2274
Inca really sucks, even if he was trying his best, he would probably have lost.
I thought he got better in macro games but still not good enough as he showed us in his game vs Virus, he probably get picked by some strong opponents next season who wants a free win.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 21 2011 12:30 GMT
#2275
On December 21 2011 21:28 eXNewB wrote:
check this out

[image loading]

Source? I find it hard to believe that either of the guys would be dumb enough to screenshot their conversation and post it somewhere.
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
December 21 2011 12:31 GMT
#2276
omg Polt is in code A.... sad face now.
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
December 21 2011 12:31 GMT
#2277
On December 21 2011 21:29 Chemiczny84 wrote:
so what even if it was on purpose? EZ solution for Polt and Losira, they should've won vs inCa


Oh.... WAIT. Thats not the point.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 21 2011 12:31 GMT
#2278
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote:
If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game.


But what drama would we have for today and tomorrow? Which player should be the TL/reddit public ennemy?

How can people accuse players to throw games without any proof?-_-
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 12:31:43
December 21 2011 12:31 GMT
#2279
So I suppose this means Losira also threw his game by not getting his evo chamber in time VS a guy infamous for his DT use. And inca MUST have thrown the virus game when he walked out with 5 colossus and no anti air!

*tin foil hat*
aka ilovesharkpeople
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 12:32:16
December 21 2011 12:31 GMT
#2280
Don't you guys remember that Inca has the most terrible PvZ ever? It's impossible to make that call.

It's just a shitty system that Polt/Losira got fucked by.
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