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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2301
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2302
On December 21 2011 21:33 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:32 Assirra wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
When was the last time we had a LR thread where there wasnt an accusation of throwing a game? pre blizzcon?

Oh you better prepare yourself.
With this Naniwa case suddenly everyone will say x was throwing a match and didn't get banned while naniwa did.
This will go on for at least a month unless mods do something.


difference is that the koreans are smart enough to make it look like they tried.

and another one...
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2303
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

And that makes it fine to just throw matches like that? This isn't about Losira or Polt not getting Code S, it's about throwing a match when there is actually something at stake, while Naniwa missed Code S for throwing a match that ment nothing,
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2304
I find it really hard to believe that a pro gamer missed a hole in a wall while me, someone who doesn't play the game ever (except for RealID chat, ty Blizz!) spotted instantly.

If i had things my way. Inca would have been allowed to forfeit the game.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2305
On December 21 2011 21:31 Incomplet wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Naniwa needs to take a lesson from Inca i think


In Naniwa's mindset at the time, doing a probe rush was more beneficial as people don't take the game into account whereas if you failed a 4-gate/6-gate, it will always be brought up and used as proof of 'NesTea will crush Naniwa'.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2306
On December 21 2011 21:34 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?


They KNEW inca would go DTs before the game began, it's their own fault
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2307
On December 21 2011 21:28 eXNewB wrote:
check this out

[image loading]

What's the source on this?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2308
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote:
If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game.


^This was what I was thinking too, if I was Inca and wanted to throw the game I wouldn't have scouted and went for DTs straight up, perhaps with some minute delays between each building, that way if Zenio busted my front there was nothing that I could do and no one would say anything.

IMO no matter what Inca did, if he made ANY MISTAKES AT ALL during the match, losira and polt fans would still cry foul. I'm sure Inca would know of the shitstorm that would ensue if he lost by making bad mistakes, but well... its Inca?
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Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2309
On December 21 2011 21:34 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:31 Fionn wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:29 ZAiNs wrote:
I got a sick idea. Make all players play all their group stage games simultaneously. All GOM needs is more casters. I'd be really interested to see Inca DT rush in 4 matches at the same time.


Or just have the last two sets played at the same time.

That is what FIFA does in their tournaments. They play the final group stage games at the same time so teams don't know automatically if they're in or not.

Just keep them in the booths so they don't know how many games their opponent won/lost?


They have internet connection on the computers of course, and can check the standings.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2310
Congratulations to InCa and Zenio for making it through!!!

And for those of you saying "this match was thrown." Let me just say this. Innocent until proven guilty. I saw no blatant throwing of the game going on. Pros make mistakes. We've all seen pros make tons of stupid mistakes before, let's not throw accusations around please.

These ppl know FULLY WELL the consequences of throwing a game. Match fixing is like plotting world domination to Koreans. They know better than to do it
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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MiraMax
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany532 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2311
On December 21 2011 21:27 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:25 Assirra wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:24 Logros wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:23 Assirra wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:22 Sea_Food wrote:
A korean throws away a game that means 2 pro gamers drop to code A. No problem.
A forgeiner throws away a meaningless game. No code S for him.

Dont...even...start.

It's true though.

was this match less then a minute? if not its not even compareable.

And that means the match wasn't thrown? Use your brain this is what Tyler mentioned before as well, it's exactly the same thing except less obvious. Zenio does a quick all-in, Inca scouts it way before it hits and 'accidentaly' leaves a gap in his wall. He even had 1 pylon powering like 3 buildings and 3-4 cannons but Zenio didn't go for it. He served the game up on a silver platter for Zenio.


It's exactly NOT the same thing precisely because it is "less obvious". Failed wall-ins do happen - 7probe rushes do not. Sure, it might be that Inca threw the game intentionally, but you have to give players the benefit of the doubt, especially if they are well-known for blundering like this, but not for throwing games.

It also serves to show how damaging Naniwas move was, because now everybody will start crying "cheater" and asking for "just punishment" at every instance.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2312
Hey i got 100 zerglings coming into my base, instead of rebuilding my wall, lets make 7 gateways in my main that I will never use.

100% thrown.

User was temp banned for this post.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2313
gj trying to prove if he threw the game or not rofl

tbh it doesnt really matter, standard group play, it may or may not have happened 20 times already but now everyone is wary because of Naniwa's ban

get used to it, untill they change the format
Stork[gm]
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2314
On December 21 2011 21:34 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?


Ever heard of preparation?

It's Inca. He goes DTs
What did they not prepare for?
What did they lose to?

Its 100% their fault...
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_DarkArchon_
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada24 Posts
December 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#2315
On December 21 2011 21:29 elwoodng wrote:
The difference is Inca is smart enough to make it look like a mistake.


Agreed. Thats the beauty of it, it's virtually impossible to "know" it was a throw. After the Naniwa/Coca shitstorm ppl are going to be more careful when they decide to throw a match.
"Oblivion Awaits."
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
December 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#2316
that picture, with people talking about letting him win was removed fast ?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#2317
There will never be any evidence, so, well... Still, in my opinion, last game showed why InCa should not be in Code S. I mean, his game against LosirA was good, but the others he just gambled successfully (against Polt) or played painfully bad (against Virus and Zenio). :/
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
December 21 2011 12:37 GMT
#2318
On December 21 2011 21:34 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?

Bomber didn't have any problems with bo1s. I'm guessing it's because he's actually Code S level.
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
December 21 2011 12:37 GMT
#2319
Dudes obviously Inca screwed that up. He's now talking to Zenio and saying.. "Dude, you were supposed to kill me after the DT's ar out". And Zenio is like: "You really wanted to wall that off but you failed ?" haha
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
December 21 2011 12:37 GMT
#2320
On December 21 2011 21:36 zerino wrote:
that picture, with people talking about letting him win was removed fast ?

because it was fake ?
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