• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:38
CEST 23:38
KST 06:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Jakie ligi piłkarskie śledzicie regularnie? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4702 users

[GSL] January Up&Downs Day 3 - Page 116

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 114 115 116 117 118 126 Next
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2301
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2302
On December 21 2011 21:33 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:32 Assirra wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
When was the last time we had a LR thread where there wasnt an accusation of throwing a game? pre blizzcon?

Oh you better prepare yourself.
With this Naniwa case suddenly everyone will say x was throwing a match and didn't get banned while naniwa did.
This will go on for at least a month unless mods do something.


difference is that the koreans are smart enough to make it look like they tried.

and another one...
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2303
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

And that makes it fine to just throw matches like that? This isn't about Losira or Polt not getting Code S, it's about throwing a match when there is actually something at stake, while Naniwa missed Code S for throwing a match that ment nothing,
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2304
I find it really hard to believe that a pro gamer missed a hole in a wall while me, someone who doesn't play the game ever (except for RealID chat, ty Blizz!) spotted instantly.

If i had things my way. Inca would have been allowed to forfeit the game.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2305
On December 21 2011 21:31 Incomplet wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Naniwa needs to take a lesson from Inca i think


In Naniwa's mindset at the time, doing a probe rush was more beneficial as people don't take the game into account whereas if you failed a 4-gate/6-gate, it will always be brought up and used as proof of 'NesTea will crush Naniwa'.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2306
On December 21 2011 21:34 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?


They KNEW inca would go DTs before the game began, it's their own fault
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 21 2011 12:34 GMT
#2307
On December 21 2011 21:28 eXNewB wrote:
check this out

[image loading]

What's the source on this?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2308
On December 21 2011 21:28 tree.hugger wrote:
If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game.


^This was what I was thinking too, if I was Inca and wanted to throw the game I wouldn't have scouted and went for DTs straight up, perhaps with some minute delays between each building, that way if Zenio busted my front there was nothing that I could do and no one would say anything.

IMO no matter what Inca did, if he made ANY MISTAKES AT ALL during the match, losira and polt fans would still cry foul. I'm sure Inca would know of the shitstorm that would ensue if he lost by making bad mistakes, but well... its Inca?
Liquid`HerO!!!
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2309
On December 21 2011 21:34 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:31 Fionn wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:29 ZAiNs wrote:
I got a sick idea. Make all players play all their group stage games simultaneously. All GOM needs is more casters. I'd be really interested to see Inca DT rush in 4 matches at the same time.


Or just have the last two sets played at the same time.

That is what FIFA does in their tournaments. They play the final group stage games at the same time so teams don't know automatically if they're in or not.

Just keep them in the booths so they don't know how many games their opponent won/lost?


They have internet connection on the computers of course, and can check the standings.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2310
Congratulations to InCa and Zenio for making it through!!!

And for those of you saying "this match was thrown." Let me just say this. Innocent until proven guilty. I saw no blatant throwing of the game going on. Pros make mistakes. We've all seen pros make tons of stupid mistakes before, let's not throw accusations around please.

These ppl know FULLY WELL the consequences of throwing a game. Match fixing is like plotting world domination to Koreans. They know better than to do it
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
MiraMax
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany532 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2311
On December 21 2011 21:27 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:25 Assirra wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:24 Logros wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:23 Assirra wrote:
On December 21 2011 21:22 Sea_Food wrote:
A korean throws away a game that means 2 pro gamers drop to code A. No problem.
A forgeiner throws away a meaningless game. No code S for him.

Dont...even...start.

It's true though.

was this match less then a minute? if not its not even compareable.

And that means the match wasn't thrown? Use your brain this is what Tyler mentioned before as well, it's exactly the same thing except less obvious. Zenio does a quick all-in, Inca scouts it way before it hits and 'accidentaly' leaves a gap in his wall. He even had 1 pylon powering like 3 buildings and 3-4 cannons but Zenio didn't go for it. He served the game up on a silver platter for Zenio.


It's exactly NOT the same thing precisely because it is "less obvious". Failed wall-ins do happen - 7probe rushes do not. Sure, it might be that Inca threw the game intentionally, but you have to give players the benefit of the doubt, especially if they are well-known for blundering like this, but not for throwing games.

It also serves to show how damaging Naniwas move was, because now everybody will start crying "cheater" and asking for "just punishment" at every instance.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2312
Hey i got 100 zerglings coming into my base, instead of rebuilding my wall, lets make 7 gateways in my main that I will never use.

100% thrown.

User was temp banned for this post.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2313
gj trying to prove if he threw the game or not rofl

tbh it doesnt really matter, standard group play, it may or may not have happened 20 times already but now everyone is wary because of Naniwa's ban

get used to it, untill they change the format
Stork[gm]
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#2314
On December 21 2011 21:34 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?


Ever heard of preparation?

It's Inca. He goes DTs
What did they not prepare for?
What did they lose to?

Its 100% their fault...
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
_DarkArchon_
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada24 Posts
December 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#2315
On December 21 2011 21:29 elwoodng wrote:
The difference is Inca is smart enough to make it look like a mistake.


Agreed. Thats the beauty of it, it's virtually impossible to "know" it was a throw. After the Naniwa/Coca shitstorm ppl are going to be more careful when they decide to throw a match.
"Oblivion Awaits."
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
December 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#2316
that picture, with people talking about letting him win was removed fast ?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#2317
There will never be any evidence, so, well... Still, in my opinion, last game showed why InCa should not be in Code S. I mean, his game against LosirA was good, but the others he just gambled successfully (against Polt) or played painfully bad (against Virus and Zenio). :/
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
December 21 2011 12:37 GMT
#2318
On December 21 2011 21:34 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 21:33 GrungyMunchy wrote:
To all the people bitching:

It was Losira's and Polt's fault that they're not in Code S right now. Should they won the matches as someone of Code S level is expected to, and there wouldn't be any issue.

Ever heard of bo1 ?

Bomber didn't have any problems with bo1s. I'm guessing it's because he's actually Code S level.
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
December 21 2011 12:37 GMT
#2319
Dudes obviously Inca screwed that up. He's now talking to Zenio and saying.. "Dude, you were supposed to kill me after the DT's ar out". And Zenio is like: "You really wanted to wall that off but you failed ?" haha
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
December 21 2011 12:37 GMT
#2320
On December 21 2011 21:36 zerino wrote:
that picture, with people talking about letting him win was removed fast ?

because it was fake ?
Prev 1 114 115 116 117 118 126 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
Clem vs Serral
TaKeTV5351
ComeBackTV 1218
TaKeSeN 402
IndyStarCraft 278
3DClanTV 108
EnkiAlexander 85
Rex71
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 278
Railgan 91
Nathanias 74
Rex 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 12131
Dewaltoss 135
sorry 9
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
summit1g6769
Other Games
Grubby4538
FrodaN3499
fl0m759
KnowMe279
PiGStarcraft215
ArmadaUGS133
ToD67
UpATreeSC45
JuggernautJason18
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick34346
BasetradeTV275
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream130
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 68
• HeavenSC 30
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1056
Upcoming Events
GSL
13h 22m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 13h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.