well you can't really blame people for being suspicious, especially because even gold players are able to spot that gap
edit: gomtv should think about scheduling games between team mates differently, if only to avoid suspicion

-YoricK-

United States477 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2242

In that situation there is no reason to leave a gap at all. And it was pretty obvious that there was a gap, don't see how any progamer could make that mistake. Oh well, no way you can prove anything, and Inca sure did look upset with himself after that game, huh guys...

ellirc

Sweden3286 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2243

On December 21 2011 21:25 synaptik wrote:

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swedish posters are quite bitter still, arent they?

You surprised?

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Sea_Food

Finland1612 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2244

On December 21 2011 21:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:

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One player a moved all his probes and took his hands off the keyboard. the other at least made units. Even Naniwa said he wishes he would have just four gated

Im sure polt and losira feel better that inca built units before he threw the game.

Eee

Sweden2712 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2245

On December 21 2011 21:26 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
Inca and Zenio!!!!!!! perfect result for this hard group

You going back to Korea or staying in Sweden?

THM

Bulgaria1131 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2246

On December 21 2011 21:13 THM wrote:

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I would bet a shitton of money on Inca losing this game. There's just no way he will screw a former long time teammate.

Sure, he will create the illusion of trying (unlike naniwa

) but in the end Inca will allow zenio to win.

I'll have to quote myself here. This was such an obvious set up. I actually thought it was going to be a bit more "hidden", like Inca playing out a longer game in which he just gets outmacroed or something.

In the end it's funny because objectively it's a very similar situation to the naniwa incident. For inca this game was as meaningless as was naniwa's game for naniwa. Win or lose, he was in. On the contrary, he actually had something to gain from losing - his long time former teammate would get in.

I think it's quite clear that this is ultimately an issue with the format. The format has to be fixed and it's GOM's fault for not doing that.

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jojo311

Australia903 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2247

On December 21 2011 21:22 Sea_Food wrote:
A korean throws away a game that means 2 pro gamers drop to code A. No problem.
A forgeiner throws away a meaningless game. No code S for him.

what???

nani did throw that game obviously with one of his hand off the keyboard, not microing at all

and how can you tell inca threw that game away? can you read his mind?

WaSa

Sweden749 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2248

On December 21 2011 21:24 Fionn wrote:

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Polt/Losira both lost to DT shenanigans.

It's not like they lost straight up games. Not saying that's any excuse, but both Losira/Polt are Code S-level players with their skill.

One could apply that to most players failing to make it to code S. Really they belong in the borderlands between code S/A. They certainly have code S skill, I didn't say they hadn't, but they ain't code S worthy atm.

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2249

On December 21 2011 21:26 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
Inca and Zenio!!!!!!! perfect result for this hard group

♥

You can't disagree with haypro guys... you just can't.

bgx

Poland6595 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2250

On December 21 2011 21:24 Fionn wrote:

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Polt/Losira both lost to DT shenanigans.

It's not like they lost straight up games. Not saying that's any excuse, but both Losira/Polt are Code S-level players with their skill.

sorry but code s players should know dt timings... there was a hole in their play and thats it, maybe next time they will know it better

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

December 21 2011 12:27 GMT

#2251

On December 21 2011 21:26 Ben... wrote:
It's okay, it only takes two rounds for Inca to be back in Code B where he belongs.

He'll be picked by nestea for sure. But then again, maybe someone else before nestea will pick him. Doesn't matter, he's a free win as long as you just prepare for dts.

Yaki

France4234 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2252

On December 21 2011 21:26 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
Inca and Zenio!!!!!!! perfect result for this hard group

Losira and Polt would have advanded, in bo3 that is

MrCon

France29748 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2253

On December 21 2011 21:20 KiNGxXx wrote:

You're still the King of screenshots

SuperFanBoy

New Zealand1068 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2254

The reason I say he threw the game away was not because he left a gap in his wall, but the fact he had 800 minerals and built a tonne of gateways in his main instead of re-walling off to stop the zerglings from reinforcing.. every pro gamer knows once they break the wall you must re-wall off to stop them from streaming in.. any high level player can see that was a throw away.

Chenz

Sweden1197 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2255

On December 21 2011 21:26 Hassybaby wrote:

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Really? You're going to bring the race card into this?

This is teamliquid, where nationality means everything.

Anyhow, congratulations to Zenio, he played good today.

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2256

If InCa had meant to give the game away, I can't imagine why he'd have scouted and pressured with those two early zealots. Better to just get 'surprised' by what Zenio does, or lose the game through passivity, no? Doesn't make sense to build five cannons and then misplace a building, that's not a good way to purposely lose the game.

Dalnor

Australia68 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2257

If it was fixed (I dont think so) it would be been better if inka went DT's and Zenio when blind spores, and then after the game said, "Hey it was Inka"

eXNewB

Canada291 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2258

check this out

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akalarry

United States1978 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2259

if inca was really going to throw a game, why would he do it in that fashion that would make people suspcious. these guys aren't retards. inca is just THAT bad. feel like you guys just started watching the gsl last season.

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

December 21 2011 12:28 GMT

#2260

I don't think Inca played his best at all, but there is no way you can say it was thrown. Any Code S class Protoss should have seen the all-in coming, had his wall up and then won easily with cannons/void rays. But Inca is bad.

So either Inca is really, really bad or it was thrown. Or both.

Still, nothing you can do. Losira/Polt had their chance to beat Inca, but his DT's were too much.